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B@d//j0ke
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Topic: New rig configuration.Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:35pm |
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Hey. Looking to get a new gaming rig for some time, As my curent comp is pretty out dated now (Geforce 7 series GPU, and AMD Athlon CPU lol)
I'm NOT looking to play the apsolute newest and most graphicly demanding games (EX. Crisis high res. and maxed out.)
My goal is to play games like
TES4 Oblivion
COD.4
& Left 4 dead
at high to maxed settings, with no framerate isues! Heres my configuration (Well the importent parts of it) I'd like to know what kind of proformence I can expect. And I am open to ANY and ALL sugestions and recommendations, as long as it duznt put up the $$ too much (Intel fans that means you!)
I'm not looking for the BEST hardwere on the market, Just a very good rig for sub $3000 That will handle any games I want to throw at it.
Price range $3000 MAX
THANX!
PS I am transplanting my own drives, as well as 2nd 500GB HD
PSS All games are gunna be played at 1600x1200 Res. AAx4 MAX
nothing big and fancy.
Chassis Model: Antec Nine Hundred Two
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 940 (3GHz) (Quad Core) (6 MB Cache) AM2+ Motherboard: Asus M4A79T Deluxe (AMD 790FX Chipset) (Socket AM3) System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 910W PC Power & Cooling (Dual/Triple SLI Compatible) (Silencer Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: - No Thanks Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU & Single Video Card Liquid Color:Blue: Non-conductive High-Performance Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 Cooling Package) Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Green) Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory frequency (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed) Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) |
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 5:45pm |
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For that you will be doing more than 4x AA.
Hell, I can do 8x AA in Crysis on my comp, and I have the old 65 nm 260, not even the 216 version. So yeah, overkill imo. |
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:24pm |
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this is the most performance for your money:
here you go Ticket# 275439 --- Price: $2428 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2328 Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Mushkin (Highly Recommended) (Digital Storm Certified) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Card Reader: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended) Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU Liquid Color:UV Redish Pink: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting) Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty this will eat your config alive and has room for upgrades |
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B@d//j0ke
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 6:38pm |
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is the Intel 920 x4 really that much better then the AMD PhenomII 940 x4? even at 3.0?
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 7:01pm |
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Yeah, Intel is rocking it when it comes to their processors and results with overclocking as well. The build DST4ME put together looks great, when you are ready to purchase your system, give me a call and I will take care of you myself.
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Zurginator
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 7:09pm |
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Personally I prefer AMD. I've seen much higher clocks out of theirs compared to Intel, and they are also significantly cheaper.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:08pm |
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for every AMD you can show me at a clock I can show you ten Intels
at that clock with better temps.
Intel owns the OC record for a reason, you think AMD does not want that title? Edited by DST4ME - 29 Apr 2009 at 8:09pm |
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:21pm |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X__HTuQ1CA
Let's see an i7 touch that. :P Edited by Zurginator - 29 Apr 2009 at 8:30pm |
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B@d//j0ke
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:43pm |
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Have dial up. No can watch youtube..
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 8:46pm |
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I have no doubt that intel CPUs clock for clock are better then AMD, but my question is weather a Intel i7 x4 clocked at 2.66 is better then or even as good as the AMD phenomII x4 clocked at 3.0? Is there that big of a difrence...And lets be honest please, I dont want you to just plug the CPU you like more. Im talking benchmarks!
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DST4ME
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Posted: 29 Apr 2009 at 11:18pm |
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I never recommend something because I like them, the things you see me recommend are things that are facts, only 1% of the time I use my opinion, and thats because there would be no facts on a subject.
does i7 920 stock perform better then phenomII? stock no, but it would be foolish to not oc a 920 as it ocs very well and at the end with the oc you will beat the amd. what will happen is that the amd won't oc as high so the 920 will endup faster then you will be stock with a senario like this:
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:15am |
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Wow thanx! I am def. going to get a Intel i7! The reason I'm making a big deal is because I have been bogged down by CPUs in the past. And it sure is frusterating. And on paper when I see AMD's PhenomII x4 clocked at 3.0 it just makes sense that it would be better then a x4 2.66. And AMD has been plugging this whole Black edition thing and how OC-able they are, I never woulda guessed it didnt OC as well as the i7 920.
Again thnx for the help! So do you think you'r config. will be good?
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:22am |
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DST's configs usually come "satisfaction guaranteed".
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:24am |
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I have another question. How much am I missing out if I get the Antec 902 case? As in what kind of limatations would I have by not getting one of the full towers? Exept for the obvius less room for upgrades. Will the 902 have enough room for what I want with enough air flow? Or do I really need a full tower?
In the end I REALLY like the look of the 902 case, So im not willing to give that up just yet lol.
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:29am |
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Although I understand why looks are important, performance is almost always more important in my opinion.
The HAF offers considerably more airflow and room for components, and allows for easier future upgrades on your system. Although the final decision is your own, the HAF is definitely the case to get if you want the best bang for your buck in performance! :D Plus the HAF case doesn't look all too bad, and I personally think it looks really awesome with the blue led fans! |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:43am |
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I think Im still going with the 902 case. Even though by the time I get done with the Green LED case fan upgrade it will be more $$ the the HAF.. But Oh well. My only consern is weather or not everything will fit okay. The new GTX GPUs are BIG! And I for one hate cases that are too cramped! I am getting Frost bite LC so im not too worried about getting as much air flow as phisicly possable.
But I guess if I had to go full tower I would go up to the 850si As I like that look too. Hmm something to think about..
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 12:55am |
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Remember a lot more heat is going to be generated by other components such as the GPU, so airflow is still very important.
The cards will fit, but it will be very tight and your computer will get very warm fast. Like I said, most people will HIGHLY recommend you go with the HAF, but it is your decision. The LC will also be easier to maintain with the HAF, and much much easier to do any upgrades yourself. If you like the Antec 902, another option could be going with the Antec 1200. Remember, DS will be able to order any component you want, even if it's not on the config list! :] |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 1:08am |
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They do that!? OMFG! ((Falling more and more in love with this site lol)) How much would that cost? And can I still get the green LED case fan upgrade with it?
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 1:15am |
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You should try calling them tomorrow for details. And I am fairly certain you can get any upgrade with it still.
Basically if it exists, and it's doable, digitalstorm will be able to get it and do it for you! :D |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 2:04am |
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there is no comparison, the 902 us a mid tower and the HAF is a full tower, HAF is your best choice for money, specially if you want a case you can fully upgrade later when needed, with LC and everything the 902 is cramped
now in all fairness the black edition does OC well for OC enthusiast that want to use extreme cooling, and I mean things like nitrogen and stuff like that, for systems like ours with LC those 5.0 and 6.0GHz numbers are nothing but a dream
plus you know Phenom II is dead in Q4 of this year right Edited by DST4ME - 30 Apr 2009 at 2:12am |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 2:22am |
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True. As just stated is it true I could have DS configure it with a antec 1200?? And if so would that take care of any problems over the 902?
I am sorry to say I for one just dont like the look of the HAF case. I know its a really good case(read LOTS of reviews) But at the end of the day im the one with it sitting next to me every day. I want a case I like. So what do you think about the antec 1200?
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 5:56am |
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hey you don't like it, you don't like it, I for one recommend it every time 95% because its the best bang for the buck and 5% because I like the looks.
if you like 1200 then go with that Edited by DST4ME - 30 Apr 2009 at 5:56am |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:11am |
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DST4ME,
Why did you suggest a 1000W PSU in you config? Was it just for future expandability? The current config doesn't need anything like that, does it?
I've gotten kind of out of touch lately, and I'm just asking.....
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 4:52pm |
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DST4ME, you still completely ignored my post.You said you would match an AMD clock on an intel at the same speed and lower temp. It's a PII x4 running at 6.7 ghz in XP stable. Highest I've seen is 10, but that was only stable in BIOS.
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yes for future upgrades. now in days all the GPUs power requirements are 500w and above.
I'm talking about real world use not some over priced cooling that is not for everyday use. but still a p4 holds the stable record at 8.9Ghz I believe if you want to go there, but again I'm not discussing crazy cooling and over the top system, I'm talking about systems that regular users use, the i7 will clock better then the dying in Q4 PII x4 for regular users. give it time that 8.9 record will be blown away by another Intel
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But the P4 is a dual-core. There is a major difference between that and a quad.
And for normal OC, this guy got a PII x4 to 4Ghz on AIR. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j37/clon22/Phenom_II_940/setup_2.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j37/clon22/4G_comparison/940X4_3d06.jpg Besides, shouldn't we be comparing comperably priced CPUs? Last I checked the i7 was like 5x that of a PII x4. Edited by Zurginator - 30 Apr 2009 at 7:56pm |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 7:55pm |
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we can go back and forth on this, there are a few people that got the 920 to 4.5 or 4.0 on air, but at the end of the day, you have a much better OC with an Intel then you will with an AMD as an average user.
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 7:59pm |
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And I'm assuming that a .5 Ghz OC is worth $700?
Shouldn't we be comparing comperably priced CPUs? Last I checked the i7 was like 3x that of a PII x4. PII http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674 i7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200 |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:27pm |
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where did 5ghz and $700 come in? I'm talking about a $2300 i7 system here that beats a $2200 ph II here, in gaming and other tasks.
I don't' consider average user at 5GHz and $700 or at 6.3GHz with an unreal nitrogen cooling, and by unreal I mean its not possible to own that ph II oced to 6.3 on a regular basis and not spend an arm and a leg not to mention the headaches that go with it, so I keep saying average user and yet you bring up something not average again. my $2300 i7 system with 6GB of DDR3 here will beat your 4GB having, lower OCing, Q1 ending, DDR2, $2200 ph II system 8 out of 10 times, and its the new platform and not dying in 3 month unlike ph II. now let me see, do I want to spend $2300 on a brand new car that is faster and is new model, or do I want to spend $2200 on a new car that is an old model that is being discontinued, I don't' know it kinda answers itself. Edited by DST4ME - 30 Apr 2009 at 8:28pm |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:31pm |
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POINT FIVE Ghz, not 5. :P
And it's $700 more for a 3.2 i7 then a 3.2 PII AM3. And it does take DDR3, just not the AM2 version which even I will admit is a rip off. It costs more and OC's worse than the AM3 one anyways. |
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:41pm |
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I will build you the same system here everything duplicate but the AMD will have 4gb the i7 will have 6GB triple channel, the difference will be like $100 not $700. and keep forgetting those extra 2GB of ram are not free :) why don't you compare a 6GB ph II system with a 6GB i7 system. if I do that here the ph II will be more expensive.
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Posted: 30 Apr 2009 at 8:53pm |
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Lol, I didn't mean for this to become yet another AMDvsIntel post ((LOTS of other forums online for that war))
Thanx for you'r help DST. Im now using you're config. (Though Im still doing a little playing around with acceseries vs price) But all the hardware is your config!
And in a few days ima call DS and see about getting the Antec 1200 case insted.
Again thnx for the help everyone!
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Our pleasure, be sure to keep us informed and when you get the PC don't' forget to post pics
I feel very honored that you are going with my config, trust me when I tell you its the best bang for your buck
at the end you gonna spend little and OC the 920 and end-up faster then a i7 965, and its a good possibility that the 6 core gulftown will work on these x58 mobos that we are getting so will a little luck our future CPU upgrade will be covered and limited to a CPU upgrade only, saving us tons of money and putting us back on top of the performance chart with little money.
BTW have checked out the new ATCS 840? its basically the slick version of HAF, you might like that too, maybe you can use an haf side panel but painted to match the ATCS 840's color, get the best of both worlds Edited by DST4ME - 01 May 2009 at 12:49am |
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Then DS is using either the AM2 PII boards or ripping us off. :P |
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Posted: 01 May 2009 at 4:37pm |
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If one wants to go with the dying ph II, then one is ripping themselves off
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