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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: New Special Deals Launched
    Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 6:22pm
Due to the economy, we have taken the decision to release some value orientated systems or our customers.
 
Our special deals (http://www.digitalstormonline.com/gamingcomputers.asp) are priced so aggressively that you could compare them part to part with NewEgg and we would be only $20-$50 more with NewEgg's shipping included.
 
Take into consideration of the time it would take to build the system, warranty, customer support, etc... Digital Storm is now more than ever your best choice for a new high-performance PC!
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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 7:04pm
that's pretty cool, and it will draw a lot of people to digital storm. good choice!

Though, to be quite honest, I would not consider purchasing a single one of those systems, even at those prices. I was excited as hell at first, but after looking them over I get more of a "meh" than anything else.

Of course, that's why they're "value" oriented, and not for someone who really wants to build their own pc. I hate to be "that guy" who says "that's it?" but still... value should be value, and putting in a GTX 285 2gb video card and keeping the standard heatsink and fan and a low OC is not what I would consider "value." That's a discount, for sure, but it's not what i think of as "value." Or using the coolit domino cooler on the "expensive" build. And what is a "digital storm certified" motherboard? the money could be better spent on a higher quality build, and the elusive parts list worries me.

I'm sorry for the post because it seems so ungrateful, but I figured I'd be honest about how I see it. Take the good with the bad, right?

Also, I'm in no way saying that those aren't amazing deals, so don't get me wrong there. that's a lot of money saved for quality parts and craftsmanship, and something a lot of people should consider, especially with the warranty and the DS customer support. But like i said, it's not what I would consider a "value" system as much as it's a "hugely discounted" system. To me, there's a difference, but that's just how I see it.

Keep editing this trying not to sound like an ungrateful jerk. I'm failing rather miserably, so just know that... um... I'm not an ungrateful jerk. I really shouldn't care (this is the internet), but I do.


trying again here. an addendum of sorts:

amazing deal, amazing discount, but discounts on unnecessary parts for PC's that will only be "pretty good". To me, if you're talking "value" then it should be less expensive with cheaper components but still be an all-around top-notch performer with the best bang for your buck. Ungrateful? Possibly. Jerk? Potentially. Honest? Yes.

Value consumers don't need a 285 GTX 2gb or a 1 TB hdd, but they might want something other than a standard cooling system.

call me mr super nitpicky Wink




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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 7:23pm
Well tho I agree with your points sdelu, I think tho some of those builds are a great option for some people on a budget that otherwise could not get in a good PC.

Its just more options, nothing wrong with that.

btw what mobo is being used in them?

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  Quote NullForce Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by sdelu

call me mr super nitpicky Wink


Well hello there Mr. Super Nitpicky! Embarrassed
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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

Well tho I agree with your points sdelu, I think tho some of those builds are a great option for some people on a budget that otherwise could not get in a good PC.

Its just more options, nothing wrong with that.

btw what mobo is being used in them?


that's something i was concerned about.

"digital storm certified" just sounds shady to me. i don't care how respectable DSO is, that still sounds shady.


@ nullforce, Embarrassed




hm... I'm pretty sure i could just get the components i want and add them in and OC the comp myself, but that seems to defeat the entire purpose of getting a PC with a good warranty.


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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:03pm

@sdelu, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. To be honest, a lot of customers stick with the stock air cooling system. We built the configurations around what we've seen by customers are popular choices for units around that price point.

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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:10pm
@ alex, I could only go by what I've seen in the forums of course, and the majority seem to go with extra cooling. I assumed others would take the same route. The issue, i think, is that those customers were either uninformed upon purchasing (it's not like they'd have access to the helpful guys around here) and that's why it's skewed.

When I first found DS i was just browsing and I know for a fact i was recommended a GTX 285 2 GB by one of your salesmen for a 1440x900 monitor. Business is business, I understand, and it technically is a better card than the 275, but there's a reason those are the configurations you see and it's not because the consumers know what's best for them.

But, you have a very good point in going with the trend. People will be looking for the 295 and the 285 and if that's what they mostly buy, then more power to you. Plus, I understand that a lot of your customers are not hardcore gamers but parents buying gifts and so on and so forth. They don't need to worry about that sort of stuff, buy a  2000 dollar computer for your kid and they'll love it factory cooling or not :)

May you get many new customers! Me? i'll just save up until i can get the one i want ;)


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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:13pm
Alex, I think these preconfigured computers are a great idea.
 
Seems to me that the five computers can be divided into the three Core i7 "2009" basic transportation models and the two Core 2 still sporty but year old, "2008" models. I've always felt that DSO abandoned the Core 2 processors prematurely. If you can ignore the names, the Gag "Frag Master" and the "Gamer sh*tzKrieg Blitzkrieg" are totally respectable workhorse computers built with quality components, that will also play Crsysis at modest resolutions on HIGH settings. In other words, the kind of computer that you can't seem to buy at a big box store. I had to build one of these machines last month cause I couldn't buy it here and get it in a hurry. BTW, the quick turnaround is also a nice feature.
 
The Core i7 models are just nice no frills modern machines at great prices. My only gripe is that you can't choose between the 275 and 285 cards for the "BBforB" and "P&V" models. After that, I'd want air cooling options, but that crosses the line into you true gamer custom built boxes.
 
Again, I think this is a smart move, well executed.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:14pm
@sdelu, no worries. I do have to say that, a lot of times, our phone staff actually tells customers how to save money with their configurations and where to put the extra cash into making a better system. There is nothing wrong with recommending a "GTX 285 2 GB" it may be to future proof your system. But, in the end, we do our best to ensure our customers get a great system that will last them with today's, and tomorrows games.
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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:19pm
As an honest question, are these backed by the same upgrade policy that is standard for other builds? Meaning, if i have more than $2200 and I wanted a better cooler on the Gaming Dominator, can I send it in to get that upgraded part or can I just request it added before you ship and add time to the ship date? Just asking since it seems the most logical thing is buy one of these and upgrade it later.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 8:22pm
You can upgrade it later, but, you won't be able to upgrade it while it's at the facility. The reason why these are marked down is because they are already built, packed, and basically ready to ship to customers.
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  Quote jean luc picard Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 2:33am
Im a new customer and i have to tell you that the pre builts were tempting but im going to go with one of the build them yourself ones.
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  Quote Zardoz8719 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 7:19am
Originally posted by Bill the Cat

Alex, I think these preconfigured computers are a great idea.
 
Seems to me that the five computers can be divided into the three Core i7 "2009" basic transportation models and the two Core 2 still sporty but year old, "2008" models. I've always felt that DSO abandoned the Core 2 processors prematurely. If you can ignore the names, the Gag "Frag Master" and the "Gamer sh*tzKrieg Blitzkrieg" are totally respectable workhorse computers built with quality components, that will also play Crsysis at modest resolutions on HIGH settings. In other words, the kind of computer that you can't seem to buy at a big box store. I had to build one of these machines last month cause I couldn't buy it here and get it in a hurry. BTW, the quick turnaround is also a nice feature.
 
The Core i7 models are just nice no frills modern machines at great prices. My only gripe is that you can't choose between the 275 and 285 cards for the "BBforB" and "P&V" models. After that, I'd want air cooling options, but that crosses the line into you true gamer custom built boxes.
 
Again, I think this is a smart move, well executed.
 
Several good points BtC...particularly, the "couldn't buy it here and get it in a hurry" comment.  Also...your point on having "options" to modify pre-set (sale) configurations...saying "but that crosses the line into your true gamer custom built boxes".  My point being....(at first) one would think you'd (DSO) would WANT to offer something but still allow modification...giving the customer options to spend more $$$.... But, as Alex points out...rather than "build" (as ordered/selected) these sale units are already assembled/packaged/ready to go...  So, really (one of) the primary concerns seems to be "quick delivery"...vs. (normal) configure and buy.  And we've all felt the compulsion to get/have it NOW.
 
At first, I also wondered if it wouldn't be easier for DSO to simply discount by a certain percent--all products.  Thereby, spreading the sale to everyone--including the picky wickets that mull over configurations and want lots of options for change?  But, after looking at the difference/drop in (some) prices from regular to "sale"...it was pretty dramatic--much more than say a 10/15% drop (which might be all that's considered in an across the board sale philosophy).   
 
All in all...you can't please everyone...and changes in tactics/sales breakes the tidium and attracts different people--you done good!
 
One last thing...and I'm not trying to throw rocks here... but, it has to do with the pictures of the units you advertise (and not just here).  Was curious, how many newcomers look at the "great" new-pictures you show above the configurations listing...and think THAT's exactly what they'll be getting when they order?  I.E. how many think the inside of the HAF is "black"...or comes with (LC) tubes...and assorted "red" (painted) accessories/parts...only to realize (later) these pics are inhanced versions??  Know it would be an inconvience to shuffle pics for different configurations...but, showing a "sale" or "budget" version with all the "bling" associated with top-of-the-line version (seems to me could lead to possible misunderstanding(s)??  Big%20smile  Guess you can put me in the Nit Picky group too... Smile
   
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 7:34am
I agree with the pics of the cases in the config page, I think they are great on the main page and gaming computer page, but I think on the config page they should be plain as they actually look.

this can probably generate more sales, cause the user will notice the difference (LOL hopefully) and some will want to make their basic case look like the customized one, thereby generating more sales, and erasing any possible misunderstanding pointed out by Zardoz8719.

having said that, I know that DS knows more about the subject then I know, but I thought I just throw that out there.

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:09pm

You bring up a great topic, but, honestly, we haven't had a problem with it yet and we've been doing it for a while now.

I believe, in general understanding, everyone knows that if they see for example liquid cooling inside the system (in the pictures), but, they don't select it, it obviously won't come with it, etc...
 
We deal with pretty tech savvy customers, we haven't had a misunderstanding issue as of yet.
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  Quote Sodius Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:33pm
I like the new configs. I think the money strapped customers will appreciate the the new builds. A video card with self cooling and stock fans is great for those builds. If you want to upgrade later of course, well you will need to upgrade cooling for sure. Great choices though DSO.Angry
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:34pm
Thats what I thought, I figured you guys know better, thanks for the info. I have to say cases look awesome

I don't know if you guys remember when I came to the forum last year and was complaining about the looks of the main page and such, I was imagining something like what it looks like now, to be honest it looks much better then I had ever imagined

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:44pm
Sweet!
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  Quote Zardoz8719 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Alex

You bring up a great topic, but, honestly, we haven't had a problem with it yet and we've been doing it for a while now.

I believe, in general understanding, everyone knows that if they see for example liquid cooling inside the system (in the pictures), but, they don't select it, it obviously won't come with it, etc...
 
We deal with pretty tech savvy customers, we haven't had a misunderstanding issue as of yet.
 
...that you have above average/informed customers is most likely true--forum posts pretty much prove that--not much gets by them!  Wasn't complaining...so much as being a stickler for detail--realize you can't have/maintain a AAA+ rating if people couldn't figure out whats-what by your ad/pics...  Thanx for the comments/clairification though  Ermm


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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by DST4ME

I don't know if you guys remember when I came to the forum last year and was complaining about the looks of the main page and such, I was imagining something like what it looks like now, to be honest it looks much better then I had ever imagined


Speaking of which, I do believe DS needs to update their main page. The info on the 650si, 750si, 650sa, 750sa etc. is outdated, right? Absolutely no reason for it to be there.

When I first came here the other month I was looking around for those builds, so I know for a fact that it can be deceiving! :D

Still, the layout and the images do look very nice, so you're right about that. And I have seen the old site, too -- HUGE improvement :)
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  Quote MyNameisBrian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 2:22am
A bit off topic, but did I see the 922 on the config page or was I being crazy?
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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 4:25am
It was there for a little while.
 
Oh.. and I just tried to build the Gaming Dominator on another site known for really bad customer service but cheap computers. The GD beat the price on a similar computer on that site and that wasn't including the overclock, the better warranty, better quality parts and better customer service. I'm impressed.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 6:40am
thats one of many reasons why we love DS satsunada, but there are other places that are cheaper but with the cheaper price comes lot of headaches down the line and lower quality parts, bad customer svc, etc
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2009 at 10:13am
The HAF 922 was there, but we took it off...
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