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    Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 9:30pm
Budget: around 4000 and under mostly best bang i can get for the buck best fans,gpu,cpu,cooler,etc


Expectations: something to play msfs well enough high or ultra settings,multiple windows open same time and tasks,basically handle any and all games ultra settings smooth fps


Usage:gaming and some light browsing,movie tv watching


Special Needs: something to handle humidity and dusty conditions in an apartment and prefer something quiet

also i want enough storage to last for many games and epsecially for all the updates msfs and something fast with download speeds im not tech savy so not sure what component to spend most on just something to last and upgrade maybe vr someday nothing to crazy or expensive but something awesome





Edited by stevie - 05 Jul 2023 at 11:05pm
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What resolution monitor will this computer be using?
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Jul 2023 at 11:31pm
Originally posted by JamesAstro

What resolution monitor will this computer be using?


1440
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2023 at 6:43pm
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2023 at 11:24pm
I'm not too familiar with MSFS, and the kind of hardware that it requires. Hopefully some of the other experts here will chime in.
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2023 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by JamesAstro

I'm not too familiar with MSFS, and the kind of hardware that it requires. Hopefully some of the other experts here will chime in.


ok yea and digital storm only offers standard fans and not sure how much is good to spend on each componenet
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  Quote JamesAstro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Jul 2023 at 11:41pm
Well, let's start with the GPU. This web site shows performance numbers for MSFS running in ultra quality at 1440p on various GPUs.

https://www.gpucheck.com/game/microsoft-flight-simulator

Here are the top results:

RTX 4090: 93
RTX 4080 TI: 86
RX 7900 XTX: 81
RTX 4080: 80
RTX 4070 Ti: 77
RX 7900 XT: 74
RTX 3090 Ti: 68

I would say pick your acceptable framerate, and use that as a guide for picking your GPU. Then once you select the GPU, move onto other components. I know...there are so many details to consider.
Velox, Intel Core i9 11900K, ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Hero
32GB RAM, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME
RTX 4090, 38" Ultrawide LG-38GL950G
Noctua NH-D15S cooler and NF-A14 fans, Corsair AX1600i PSU
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 12:19am
Originally posted by JamesAstro

Well, let's start with the GPU. This web site shows performance numbers for MSFS running in ultra quality at 1440p on various GPUs.

https://www.gpucheck.com/game/microsoft-flight-simulator

Here are the top results:

RTX 4090: 93
RTX 4080 TI: 86
RX 7900 XTX: 81
RTX 4080: 80
RTX 4070 Ti: 77
RX 7900 XT: 74
RTX 3090 Ti: 68

I would say pick your acceptable framerate, and use that as a guide for picking your GPU. Then once you select the GPU, move onto other components. I know...there are so many details to consider.
















     https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4717675

im thinking this and unsure about how quiet system will be or how cooling willbe











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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 1:09am

lol
Nothing else better to do, dude? That's a very old config.

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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 1:54am
how about amd 7800x especially for msfs paired with 4080 instead
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 1:55am
https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4717695
this config instead
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IDK what hoserator is looking at, but you've done okay with your design considering you don't know the parts. Ive made just very few substantive changes, but they're what you want.

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4717697

First, we save a teeny bit of cash. Second, the CPU is a bit overkill, but MSFS is a very demanding program, so I'll stick with the 13700KF. The mobo is just fine. You will never use 64GB of RAM in the lifetime of this system, so 32GB is good. this rig may pull as many as 700W, so let's go with the 1000W PSU.

For storage, I highly recommend the 500GB Samsung 980 PRO as your primary drive. More than twice as fast as the one you picked, It's plenty big enough to hold the OS, apps, maintenance software your need, and your MSFS. A bit more as well. Smaller size means easier scanning, and back-ups. More time for gaming.

For quiet and superbly efficient cooling, the Noctua is the choice. It performs as well as the AIO liquid coolers, and will outlast them and never leak. If it ever breaks down, you replace a fan.

The Velox is dollar for dollar the best airflow case here. Runs quiet, especially with the Noctua on the CPU. I think this is the system you want.   
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 2:24am
Originally posted by stevie



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     https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4717675

im thinking this and unsure about how quiet system will be or how cooling willbe




@Cretae: this is the configuration I was looking at. The one the OP posted.Big%20Smile
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  Quote stevie Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jul 2023 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by Cretae

IDK what hoserator is looking at, but you've done okay with your design considering you don't know the parts. Ive made just very few substantive changes, but they're what you want.

https://www.digitalstorm.com/configurator.asp?id=4717697

First, we save a teeny bit of cash. Second, the CPU is a bit overkill, but MSFS is a very demanding program, so I'll stick with the 13700KF. The mobo is just fine. You will never use 64GB of RAM in the lifetime of this system, so 32GB is good. this rig may pull as many as 700W, so let's go with the 1000W PSU.

For storage, I highly recommend the 500GB Samsung 980 PRO as your primary drive. More than twice as fast as the one you picked, It's plenty big enough to hold the OS, apps, maintenance software your need, and your MSFS. A bit more as well. Smaller size means easier scanning, and back-ups. More time for gaming.


i thought liquid cooling is best and more efficent etc
For quiet and superbly efficient cooling, the Noctua is the choice. It performs as well as the AIO liquid coolers, and will outlast them and never leak. If it ever breaks down, you replace a fan.

The Velox is dollar for dollar the best airflow case here. Runs quiet, especially with the Noctua on the CPU. I think this is the system you want.   
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jul 2023 at 10:57pm
Originally posted by hoserator

lol
Nothing else better to do, dude? That's a very old config.




@hose:

What I see with that config # is a 13700kf, Asus Prime Z790, 64GB of Kingston Fury RAM, other typical parts and an RTX 4080.
Not an old configuration. his is 4717675 and mine is 4717697 only 22 digits apart. So I don't understand.

@stevie:
The Noctua is just as efficient as the liquid cooler, will be quieter and can't ever leak. It will outlast the liquid cooler which must be replaced. The Noctua can be repaired with a fan swap. If you want liqid all-in-one, you need the triple fan.

Edited by Cretae - 08 Jul 2023 at 11:33pm
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Jul 2023 at 12:02am
OH no,

my bad, my eyes kept on blocking out the "7" after the 471!  Oops. I will leave configurations to you, my friend. And my most sincere apologies to stevie.




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Don't be embarrassed, my friend! It just means you're getting wiser(older) by the day. My grandaughter tells me all the time what a wiseguy I am!   
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