New Velox buildPost Date: 2020-01-17 |
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Rwnielsen
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Topic: New Velox build Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:08pm |
I really could use a second opinion or two on this build. Its just for gaming. It probably won't be built for a week or 2 and I could make any changes by phone. I haven't built a gaming computer in about 8 years so I decided to let someone else put it together and check with you guys to see if I left anything out.
Thanks for your help Richard System Configuration: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z390-P (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices) (No SLI Support) System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Digital Storm Performance Series Power Supply: 850W Corsair RM850x (Fully Modular) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Digital Storm M.2 Performance Series) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Seagate / Toshiba / Hitachi) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H100i PRO - 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Mouse Pad: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement) |
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HockeyBuck
DS Veteran Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1608 |
Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 9:41pm |
Welcome to the forum Rwnielsen ! Congrats on the Verified Customer badge...
OK...I like your CPU, PSU, and cooler choices for this Velox build. Good gaming selections. Here are a few suggestions for changes/ improvements, if you decide to adjust the build a bit. DS is pretty easy to work with as long as you talk to them soonest. 1) You used an entry level ATX mobo that will work fine. The midrange ASUS Z390 ROG Strix H ATX board or the MSI Z390 Pro Carbon ATX board would be stronger full featured motherboards for very little extra cost. Use the ASUS Strix, or if you need on board WiFi then use the Pro Carbon. 2) DS branded parts only carry a 1 yr system parts warranty. Switch the RAM to Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB RAM for a lifetime warranty plus the RGB LEDs you get for little extra cost. 3). One of the latest greatest features of current gen mobo’s that you have not utilized in your build is M.2 NVME SSD drives...the boards have 2 slots to place these fast & tiny SSD drives right on the mobo. M.2 NVME SSD are 5X faster than normal SATA III SSD drives as it uses the faster PCIE bus that video cards use. Most folks use an M.2 NVME SSD for drive 1 at least. The Samsung Evo 970 Pro or even faster 970 Plus M.2 NVME SSD come in 500 gb, 1 TB & 2 TB sizes. 4) The DS stock case fans are low cost plain black unlighted fans that have only the DS 1 yr part warranty. I recommend either the Corsair LL Series or ML Series case fan upgrade for longer warranties, and better quieter performance. The LL Series have two amazing RGB LED light loops for 16 LED and endless color designs, and carry a 2 yr warranty. The ML Series have only 4 hub RGB LED, but they use magnetic levitation bearings and carry a 5 yr warranty. Both upgrades would also include one CorsairLighting Node Pro module to synchronize and link all Corsair RGB components and uses Corsair iCUE software to design and control the RGB lighting. That also works with any Corsair RGB equipped peripherals you hook up like keyboard or mouse. 5) If this is mostly a gaming rig, it’s not too hard to beat the AMD 5700 XT video card. The NVidia RTX 2070 Super would be a stronger midrange GPU that can perform very well with high game settings at 1080P or 2K/1440P displays. The RTX 2080 Super is even stronger yet for Ultra settings. NVidia Ray Tracing lighting effects, G-Synch tech for eliminating Screen Tearing when using G-Synch equipped monitors are just a couple of the reasons NVidia rules the GPU roost. That’s my 2 cents...See what you think.... |
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 4:24am |
My 2 cents.
Case fans rarely fail, so upgrading those is more of an appearance choice IMO. The AMD 5700 XT is only slightly off the performance of the 2070 S, which is quite a bit pricier. If you don't mind not having ray tracing lighting effects for the few games that offer those, the AMD choice will serve well. Those are budget considerations that are up to you. The first 3 suggestions are solid performance enhancements you should reach out for. |
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 9:13am |
Thanks to both of you for taking the time to post. I think I'll go with the the motherboard, memory and SSD upgrades. On board SSD drives are new to me and while I could add them later I'd prefer to have my operating system on one when its delivered. I could also add memory in the future but... This build is costing, all in, about the same as my first computer which was a 200MMX and win95 so I cant really gripe too much.
Again, thanks for your help |
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 11:10am |
Its done. Motherboard, memory and primary drive
Thanks again |
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HockeyBuck
DS Veteran Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1608 |
Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 2:05pm |
Glad you found the advice helpful. We on the forum just want to help you get the best DS system possible! Now comes the hard part...the wait!
Let us know how it all goes for you, and we do enjoy seeing some pictures on the forum when new systems arrive....lol. |
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 4:21am |
Our pleasure.
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 2:49pm |
I had a change of heart and switched this to a Lumos build. Added the Corsair 280 cooler and ML case fans. They're expecting the Velox cases mid-Feb and I didn't want to wait for them. Should be a nice rig when I finally get it :-)
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 2:57pm |
**************************************************************** System Configuration: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix Z390-H Gaming (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (RGB Light Bar) Power Supply: 850W Corsair / EVGA (Modular) (80 Plus Gold) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Optical Drive: - No Thanks Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express) Storage Set 2: 1x Storage (2TB Western Digital - Black Edition) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio HPC Processor: - No Thanks Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Corsair H115i PRO - 280mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Corsair ML PRO Series (High Static Pressure) (Magnetic Levitation) Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) Airflow Control: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: Option Not Available CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Mouse Pad: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Branded Gear: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty (3 Year Labor & 1 Year Part Replacement)[/QUOTE] |
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Cretae
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Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 4:08am |
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 07 Feb 2020 at 12:09pm |
This morning I checked and my new computer is in packaging. Maybe I'll get a tracking number soon. I have a new 32" monitor, a new mouse and keyboard and I'm thinking about a better chair. I'll be 66 in March and I'm acting like a 10 year old. It's all good.
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 7:30am |
71... I know the feeling. Great, ain't it?!
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hoserator
DS Veteran We don't need no stinking "Avatars" ! Joined: 08 Oct 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7966 |
Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2020 at 12:37pm |
It's a bunch of OGs here! (67) And yes, it is a new toy!
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 3:16am |
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 10:51am |
From what I've read, the ROG STRIX motherboard has a decent sound processor on board. I have a couple of creative pci cards i was thinking of using, one being a sbo 460 with 'xfi', but it doesn't seem like I'll need to. I have a 5.1 speaker set up that I really like and from what I can see I should be able to enable the on board sound and just go with that. I'm sure you guys are familiar with this scenario, what do you think?
Its scheduled delivery is Tuesday before noon |
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 09 Feb 2020 at 1:11pm |
The onboard sound is fine IMO. I run a (old) Klipsch Promedia 5.1out of the mobo and it sounds good. Enjoy.
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:15am |
The consensus among reviewers and consumers alike for many years has been that dedicated sound cards are the choice of audiophiles with special purposes. The onboard audio has been more than just adequate going back at least a decade AFIK. However, that doesn't mean improvement isn't possible. It just means most of us rubes out here in averageville probably couldn't tell.
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 4:15am |
Fair enough, I'll leave things as they are and try it out.
Thanks for the info |
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 2:51am |
As always...our pleasure. Here's to your rig being everything you hope for!
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 2:45pm |
It's here, plugged in and running. It's beautiful! It's also virtually silent. I revived my Steam account and am loading a couple games. I still have to configure the sound and check out the LED lighting as it's only on Corsair lights right now... I took today off so it may be a late one 8-)
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hoserator
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Quote Reply Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 5:22pm |
Excellent. Enjoy.
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GrandesBollas
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Quote Reply Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 5:25pm |
Awesome news!! Enjoy!!!!
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 8:17pm |
So far I'm impressed. The Chassis LED's plug came loose during transit and they're working fine now. My speaker setup needs attention as it has an awful buzz so I'm using headphones for the time being. This thing, so far, rocks on FPS games like Battlefield and Call of Duty. I've started wearing exam gloves when I tinker with it so I don't obsess over well illuminated fingerprints.
I've built quite a few computers over the years but I always seemed to pass over 'Final Assembly' & 'Quality Assurance'. I'll write up a nice review in a couple days. Once again I'd like to thank all of you guys who took the time to help me get this right. Thanks a million :-) |
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HockeyBuck
DS Veteran Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1608 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 8:25pm |
Secret for cleaning case glass with no streaks or fuzz residue.... ..use coffee filters. Lumos is an excellent case. Glad you are having fun!
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Apr 2020 at 10:48pm |
Hi all
I've had this computer for a couple of months now and it has been both flawless and impressive. It runs a consistent 4.67 mHz and plays all the games I can throw at it. I followed all the tips and recommendations of the guys here with one exception, the video card. I went with the AMD 5700 xt. It has proven to be the weak link. I'm currently on the 4th driver update (in 2 months) and it keeps getting better,thankfully. You can't play driving of fps games with intermittent black screens. Hopefully AMD will get this sorted out soon. Its also power hungry, 160w under heavy usage although I've never seen above 67 degrees C. Again, thanks for all the help Richard |
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Cretae
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7331 |
Quote Reply Posted: 12 Apr 2020 at 4:22am |
Thanks for the feedback on the 5700 xt. It's supposed to fall in between a 2060S and a 2070S at a bargain price, but it was/is known to have some of the issues you describe on demanding games. I've heard of undervolting the card and revving the fan a bit to help with dropped frames. Perhaps you might look into that. How does moderating your game settings help? Sorry it's not doing better for you.
How did the onboard sound work for you? It would be good to affirm it's as good as we think it is! Glad to have the update, and we are very pleased to have helped. |
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Rwnielsen
Newbie Joined: 08 Jan 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
Quote Reply Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 11:56am |
Hi again Guys
Here's another update... The AMD card is now on it's umpteenth [sic] driver and it keeps improving. I did have an issue with refresh rate on the monitor. Windows had it at 60Hz and I'm fairly certain I set it up at 144Hz through the AMD software. Either way I got that sorted out and I no longer have any flickering, at all. I have a couple rally type driving game and a decent wheel/pedal setup so it really makes a difference. Both power consumption and heat are down. With regards to the sound and speakers, I haven't pursued it because I have a comfortable gaming headset and I play a lot at night, late. I work mostly nights and when I get home it's sometimes 3-4 in the morning. I like to think my neighbors are happy with my decision. On a construction note, The radiator is mounted with the tubing entering/exiting on the top (upside down). According to the internet gurus this could lead to any bubbles formed being drawn through the loop, potentially causing issues. Again, I haven't had any problems. Lastly, I think I may have lost my overclock on the CPU. When I first got this machine I ran a few benchmarks and it was running at 4.67GHz. Now it occasionally hesitates where it didn't before. I can't find the program I used originally and we're talking milliseconds so I haven't pursued that either. All in all, I'm very happy with this computer and, although at times tempted, I think I'll keep the AMD card and resist switching to a 6800xt. Thanks everyone for your help, info, tips and patience. Richard |
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Cretae
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Quote Reply Posted: 11 Nov 2020 at 12:43pm |
Glad to hear it!
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