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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Noctua fan bent??
    Posted: 19 Dec 2009 at 1:09pm

just recieved new machine from DS and it looks like it took a beating on the inside. The fan cooler looks bent but nut sure if that is the way they make them anyone with advice??

 
 
 
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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2009 at 2:07pm
That does look nasty. Have you turned the thing on? If so, how are the CPU temps? Makes you wonder what eles has gotten shaken loose. 
 
In any event, somebody, either DSO or the shipper, owes you a new cooler. Good luck getting the shipper to own up.  I'd be tempted to send the whole thing back for rehab.


Edited by Bill the Cat - 19 Dec 2009 at 2:08pm
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  Quote CygnusX1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2009 at 11:48pm
The cooler is not the way it should be at all. I definately would not fire up the rig in the state that it's in your photos.
 
Take your back / side panel off and look at the other side and see if the board is damaged where your cooler is attached.
 
Looks like your rig was brutalized in shipping. What did the shipping box look like when you received it? Did it looked beat up? Any noticable damage to the box?
 
When mine showed up, I looked the box over for any apparent damage before I let the FedEx guy go.
 
 
 
 
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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 Dec 2009 at 11:58pm
The box had one area just below the corner that had a small tear in it. The packaging was not the same they show on the DS clips. It was in a DS box and then the cooler Master 922 box inside with just two peices of styrofoam one on each side. It looked like there was some room for the cooler master box to slide inside the DS box. No custom soft foam like DS clips. To top it off it only had a short trip approx 300 miles.
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  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 12:58am
the shipping companies have been f**king things up badly lately
i wouldnt turn it on, if its been bent that far your CPU might be damaged.
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  Quote CygnusX1 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 2:02am

I think the packaging varies somewhat depending on the case that was ordered. I have the HAF 932 and the box and packing was different than the video and even your description. Mine had an inner layer of cardboard on each side of the rig. Then a very interesting cardboard frame with a very stiff sheet of clear plastic attached to the cardboard frame, on each side of the rig. The rig itself was then covered in a basic clear plastic bag. The way this was set up allowed the rig to essentially "Float" inside the box. There was no styrofoam and there was no dark gray foam rubber like that shown in the packing video. I thought it was a very cool setup. Other than my GPU card being slightly loose, everything came through nicely.

Rig was shipped from DS to Sacramento, CA, where it appears the FedEx trailer was loaded onto a Piggy back railcar. Then the rig went by train from Sacramento, through Northern Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, then South to Denver, CO, then offloaded and trucked into Western, CO., where I live. So how a rig travels, can very greatly. The REAL issue is WHO is physically handling the rig. When mine showed up the driver had the box sitting on it's side even though it had RED arrows with words "THIS SIDE UP", he clearly ignored it. I could see many other large boxes inside his truck that were just PILED every which way as if an earthquake had hit the inside of the truck and jumbled all the boxes every way imaginable. So it does not matter if it's going two blocks or to the other side of the planet, it just takes ONE JERK that does not care or gets careless or is taking his frustration out on YOUR item!

I hope there is no real damage to your rig and the cooler is just loose as well as your drives! I would check the cooler out and ALL of your connections, just like they show in the video, BEFORE you try turning on the rig.

Unfortunately, unless someone from DS is monitoring this forum though the weekend, you may have to wait until Monday before you can talk to them about it. I would still send them an email once you have determined if the cooler is just loose or is actually damaged.

 
 
Originally posted by Rmat56

The box had one area just below the corner that had a small tear in it. The packaging was not the same they show on the DS clips. It was in a DS box and then the cooler Master 922 box inside with just two peices of styrofoam one on each side. It looked like there was some room for the cooler master box to slide inside the DS box. No custom soft foam like DS clips. To top it off it only had a short trip approx 300 miles.
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  Quote Captain Francis Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 2:45am
That looks bad, looks like your lower drive bays are all out of place as well.  They must have been playing kickball with that thing.  Question  That sucks. 

I had a package shipped by UPS once that was left on my porch with the entire thing (which was actually a shipping box over another similar shipping type box) bent in the middle at a 45 degree angle.    Indeed so was the item inside. 

It was in such a condition that I knew the item couldn't possibly be intact, so I started taking photos of it before I even brought it inside the house.

UPS did eventually pay for it.

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 2:55am
@Rmat56,
 
I am sorry about the mishandling from the shipping courier. The way your heat sink is bent is not normal.
 
This can happen if the unit is dropped on its side hard enough since the heat-sink itself has some mass by the fans. I strong shock from an impact can travel to the heatsink to bend it.
 
This is mainly occurring most likely from the holiday rush that the shipping couriers are experiencing.
 
The different shipping box you received which isn't featured in our video is our new and improved packaging system which uses a film that can flex and absorb shipping abuse much better than foam which will just spring back.
 
Moving froward, no worries. We'll help take care of you until you are back up and running. We can send you a replacement cooler on our cost which should take care of it. It's a very easy install process which should take about five minutes and our techs can also help guide you through it.
 
Please contact us directly on Monday.


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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 2:01pm
Thank you for the response Alex... This is one of the reasons I went with DS... Customer support by the Managment!! I already called and left a message with customer support but will call again on monday am.
Thank you.
PS my shipping boxes had no film. Just the HAF 922 box inside a DS box with a little bit of open space for the inner box to move freely inside the outer box.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Dec 2009 at 2:09pm
Understood. I do want to add that:
 
There are multiple different variations that may have caused us to use the original chassis box, and double box it in an additional box at that time. The stock HAF 922 packaging is actually fairly decent foam, and not similar to the basic Styrofoam that $50 cases come in.
 
However, I have passed a note to our packaging supervisor as well to ensure they completely stop using this method immedieatly.
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  Quote atrocity3010 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Dec 2009 at 1:13am
I had the exact same thing happen to my system (also a HAF 922) which I received about a week ago. The Noctua fan was bent in the other direction (although mine only bent very slightly compared to yours) and the drives were in similar shape. I also received the same packaging as yours, which when I first opened the box was disheartening. Thankfully the system works fine (checked the temps and the CPU runs cool), but yeah, I wouldn't trust that cooler in the shape it's in. Thankfully you're in good hands with DS.

It's sad how little respect shipping companies have for big, heavy boxes that are clearly marked fragile. It's not like it's just a holiday-only thing, either. Do they even look at the box for a fragile labeling before tossing it around, or do they just not care?


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Dec 2009 at 1:32am
the shipping companies just don't care, I have heard so many stories here about that, one person was talking about how the fedex guy was rolling if you will the box to this door
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  Quote venom Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Dec 2009 at 1:38am
I'd turn it on and see what happens, it could just be bent heatpipes.

Worst case it turns off within a few minutes indicating it is overheating.
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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:16am
At this time the machine seems to be running fine. Temps have been OK.
I did call customer service on Saturday 12-19-09. I called again on Monday the 21st and spoke to Sam. Sam requested an E-mail with the photos which i sent around 2pm. I did not hear back from him. I called Sam again in the afternoon of the 22nd. He opened the e-mail while on the phone and said they would send me a new cooler. He said he needed credit card info to put a hold till they receive old part back. I gave him all the info and asked for an e-mail confirmation, which I have still not received.
As a business owner I understand how the holidays can affect things but this lack of follow through is a bit tough. It only takes a minute or two to send off an e-mail.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 1:57am

@Rmat56,

You're absolutely correct.
 
I am sorry for the inconvenience. Sam is a new member of our phone staff and may have simply overlooked getting back to you.
 
Actually, just a heads up, we're implementing a 'ticket based system' to better manage and prevent these type of issues. You would be assigned a unique ticket number about your issue which also would be emailed to you. Then, the situation would stay on the phone staff's to-do sheet until the customer themselves removes it saying resolved or management removes it. This way, it allows our staff to ensure we don't forget certain customers and also allow us to follow up after you received the item to ensure your issue was resolved.
 
Never the less, please feel free to contact Eric our customer service supervisor directly 1-866-817-8676 EXT 151 or email him Eric ([email protected]).
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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 2:08am
Thank you Alex.
I will contact Eric first thing Monday am.
I have withheld a complete review until this issue has been resolved so I can comment on all aspects of the purchase.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 2:57am
Sounds good.
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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:21pm
Called and left message for Eric first thing this morning 9:06am pst and still no response now it is 3:17 pm.
Not even a quick e-mail to say looking into it.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:37pm
@Rmat56,
 
It's the holiday season and we've been very very busy, which is obviously no excuse. I am sincerely sorry.
 
However, Eric does know to get back to you and will before the end of the day. A quick email would no do good from Eric because once he gets to your email, he's going to take care of it start to finish.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:41pm

I was trying to follow up with Eric for you, but, I don't have an order number or even a name to go by? Can you give me your order number?

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  Quote Rmat56 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 6:56pm
Order # -----...
Just got off the phone with Eric and sounds like he will assure the new cooler is/was shipped.
 
Thank you.
 
EDIT: Order number removed.


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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Dec 2009 at 11:37pm

Sounds like a plan. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact Eric directly.

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