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    Posted: 28 Dec 2008 at 9:55am
 Hi,

I'm a graphic/digital artist. I need some help configuring a non gaming PC. The applications I use are for 3d modeling (Various apps) , high end environment creation (VUE), Photoshop, Painter. All of these apps are very graphic and memory intensive, and a well as needing a lot CPU power to render large scale images in a reasonable amount of time.


What I know I want is the following :


Intel 7i Quad Core

64 bit OS (Vista Ultimate)

12 gb memory

1gb graphic card


What I don't know about and could use some advice on is :


QUIET! - No noise - no "hissing" - no "humming" (My current PC's fans and other "stuff" sound like I'm standing on a runway - this new pc has to be silent)


1 -  Power Supply - I assume since I want a high end graphics card, I want a higher power supply?? - but how much 1000W, 1200W


2 - Cooling - Do I need liquid cooling since I'm concerned about noise? Also, if it's liquid cooling, does that require maintenance? Is it cooling for the CPU and the graphics card? Do I need add'l fans?


3 - Dual hard drives - I understand the benefits for dual drives in gaming, will it do anything for the above requirements? I currently have an external 500gb drive, which will be used on the new machine, as well.


4 - RAID - 0 or 1 - If I get two hard drives, do I have to have RAID set, or can I just use the two drives independently?


5 - Anything I'm not aware of, but probably should consider in this configuration?

Any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!


Thanks very much for your time. 


John
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No PC will be silent. PSU noise and case fan noise are inevitable, but for a more quiet system you could go with LC.

1. Unless you plan to do with a dual video card setup a 750 wt PSU will do just fine

2. Lcing does not require maintenance. It requires you to to fill the reservoir whenever your levels get low.

3. Dual HDD's will not increase your performance, it will just allow for more storage space.

4. You do not need a raid config to have more then one HDD.

5. (other thoughts)

-Windows Home Premium is the same thing as Ultimate minus a few things that you would probably never use anyway.

-Whats your price range so we can help you config a rig.





Q9650 @ 4.2Ghz( Liquid Cooled), 4GB 1600Mhz DDR3, GTX280 SLI, VRaptor,HAF 932
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Thanks for the info!   
I'm looking to spend $3,500 - $3,800  
Would like to keep the total under $4,000  Thanks
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Ticket Number #221221

here is the link to the build

3649.00 $

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 940 2.93GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage II Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 12GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 2GB
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

Maybe this ?
lets see what DST4ME has to say. He will also config a rig for you. so you can choose from a couple.



Edited by jtspectra2 - 28 Dec 2008 at 12:35pm
Q9650 @ 4.2Ghz( Liquid Cooled), 4GB 1600Mhz DDR3, GTX280 SLI, VRaptor,HAF 932
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Thank you very much for this configuration - 
 
 I should mention one thing, some of the apps I use (suggest) and work better with Nvida cards vs. ATI, but I assume I can just select the 1gb Nvida instead of the ATI
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the 920 and 940 dont' support 1600MHz ram only upto 1333MHz

not sure if you need more then 6GB but I suggest you go with 6GB and ask them to be 3 x 2GB sticks.

if you see you need more ram just another 6GB which is really easy.

here you go Ticket# 221228 --- Price: $2906 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Dual SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair XMS3
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260+ 896MB (216 Streams) (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Cooler Master V8 (Compatible With i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

Edited by DST4ME - 28 Dec 2008 at 1:07pm

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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DST with all due respect i would love to see were your getting that info from. cause iv read about 10 places that say different. Im pretty sure that it can handle those speeds if you OC your CPU. but someone correct me if im wrong.

you can run RAM speeds over 1066MHz with an i920. If you want to OC your i7 1600MHz RAM comes highly recommended. The reason being that 200 MHz Bclk is realistically achievable, and that sits nicely with the 4x memory multiplier to give a non DDR RAM freq of 800MHz, which is DDR3-1600MHz. With that set you can use the CPU multi to set your core speed in 200MHz jumps.

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Thanks again for the info....
 
Just so I'm  sure here, I do want 12GB of memory - there is no way I want to take a chance of getting memory errors on this machine. 3D modeling and environment apps are total memory hogs.
 
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Intel themselves have it. the 965 is the only chip that has the ability to override the integrated memory controller frequency, the 940 and 920 don't, officially Intel actually supports only 1066MHz.

you can OC the Bclock and achieve running 1600MHz also lets keep in mind that the 920 and 940 have 2 memory dividers six and eight.

in short you won't notice the difference between 1333 and 1600MHz and its not worth the money to go push the system to its limits like that, it will only cause problems and not worth the money.


notice the number "1" note is only for the 965.




IMO if one wants to bleed their system to that extent then one should get a 965.


Edited by DST4ME - 28 Dec 2008 at 2:08pm

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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Originally posted by jgmart

Thanks again for the info....

 

Just so I'm  sure here, I do want 12GB of memory - there is no way I want to take a chance of getting memory errors on this machine. 3D modeling and environment apps are total memory hogs.

 

Thanks


if you want 12 go ahead but I think its overkill, you have to remember this 12GB systems are a monthy old, if you came here 3 month ago, you would have wanted 8GB cause 12 was not there.

now the difference between 6GB and 8GB is nothing you would notice.

Edited by DST4ME - 28 Dec 2008 at 1:54pm

Nvidia Drivers----AMD Drivers
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