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    Posted: 27 Oct 2008 at 8:28pm
Well, after a couple weekends of fussin with the new box trying to figure out the in's & out's of Vista I finally loaded FSX up and spent this past weekend playing with in game graphics adjustments (much higher than default of course which was fairly high from the get go upon installation), vid card adjustments, and a couple of tweaks to the fsx.cfg and wow, I can't believe it. Awesome. I just spent 2 hours flying out and around Friday Harbor (natch) at sunset (simply gorgeous), then cruised on down and flew around Seattle putting her down in the dark at Boeing Field on an appoach that took me alongside Tacoma International (always a load on the system). Loads of night lighting, traffic on the ground and in the air, and it was smooth. 30 to 60 fps, I still don't believe it.
 
Of course I'm still running stock FSX/Accel at this point (and le me tellya', after years of flying with all the addon goodied like UTX, GEX, FSGenesis and Pilot's Mesh, Scenery Tech Landclass, FEX, ASX, and recently XGraphics for clouds and weather, it's a shock how bland plain FSX is on terrain features).
 
So far not a CTD, freeze, stutter, or anything.
 
I've still got some trimming in of the particulars to do, and I need to set up a couple of repeatable flight scenarios to monitor so as I throw on addons I can keep track of  graphics performance and see at what point and with what addons I bring this system to it's knees.
 
That being said, well done DS, even with only 2 hours flight time this system has exceeded my expectations at this point. Thank you.
 
 
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that is great, post your specs so people know your beast

lol I like your sig

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Awesome. Post some pictures!
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System Configuration:
Chassis: DS 950Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1200W PC Power & Cooling (ESA Edition) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad QX9650 Extreme 3.00GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache) (OC'd to 3.8)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 Corsair at 1800MHz Dominator DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)

Hard Drive 3: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)

Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: MOBO sound
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite Dual Loop System for CPU & Single Video Card Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: NVIDIA Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA) System (Install, Test, Optimize Computer)
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Windows Boost: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)



Edited by FLighT - 29 Oct 2008 at 1:56pm
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Hopefully I'll get some time to take and post some pictures this weekend.
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nice OC, how great is that LC?

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thats some system you have there!  its good to hear another person is happy Ouch
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I've had my box two weeks today....no issues either.
 
I only have COD4 and FIFA 2008 on my system.  COD4 is max'd out w/everything on high and at my monitor's res of 1680x1050 (22" wide screen) and it max'd out at 60fps.  I also have 2x GTX 260's.
 
FIFA I haven't checked anything, but it's silky smooth.  Hoping to get Crysis soon and really test it out.
 
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Three 300gb velociraptors....
 
nice
 
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Originally posted by DST4ME

nice OC, how great is that LC?
 
Liquid Cooling works fine, my core temps around 51, 49, 35 and 35 degrees C at idle, not much more when stressed that I've noticed yet and the 280 runs around 44 degree at idle (according to ESA). Still need to find out how to access the reservoir(s) at some point. They sit under the ESA and 2 DVD drives. I'm guessing they'll slide out the back of the rack they sit in. Shouldn't need to worry about it until after Xmas, I'll just keep an eye on my temps. 
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Originally posted by harleyman

YEA...So glad to hear all is smokin at KSEA........
 
 
I'm happy for ya there FlighT.........Have fun....
 
Thanks, it's been surprisingly good. It's a totally different experience when it runs this smooth. And the vehicle traffic on the roads and other aircraft taking off and landing and in the air... really gotta' keep my thumb glued to the hat switch at all times, doing Linda Blairs, LOL.
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we need pics of cosmos s boss

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we need pics of cosmos s boss
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Cosmos S, just noticed that, I went with the 950i at the last minute, not the Cosmos S. Gotta edit that. Sorry.
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lol ok well pics would be great anyways

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Very nice. Post some pics!!!
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If you haven't guessed by now, I am clueless about using a digital camera or re-sizing.
And I would point out that these are pics of my originally delivered box. It went back very qickly to DS for removal of the sound card and installation of a 3rd Raptor so the config is different now.
 
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Looks like the Swiftech h20-120 liquid cooling setup.  I know from experience its horrible to install by helping a friend, i would never even try to do it myself....thank god for DS Ermm
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LOL I will take what ever pics I can

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Looks like the Swiftech h20-120 liquid cooling setup.  I know from experience its horrible to install by helping a friend, i would never even try to do it myself....thank god for DS Ermm
 
Yep, got that right. I'm still not sure how I get to the reservois to check/add fluid when needed. I'll call DS at some point and keep an eye on temps with ESA in the meantime.
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So, does the CPU have a different reservoir than the GZPU's?  Also, what temps are you getting at the CPU.  The one i helped install was getting around 25-30 idle, and no more than 42 playin crysis.  Was in a very cool room though, prob around 70-72.
 
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So, does the CPU have a different reservoir than the GZPU's? 
I think so: from the invoice: " Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled Frost Bite Dual Loop System for CPU & Single Video Card Only."
 
 
Also, what temps are you getting at the CPU. 
At idle my (OC'd to 3.8 from 3.0) CPU's 0 through 3 run: 51, 49, 34, 34 (degrees C) as shown in ESA. I haven't tried to check it while flying so I don't know what happens under load. I have yet to d/l that CPUID proggy that seems to give a low/average/high reading over time. My setup is in a finished basement, usually around 68 degrees. Also, both my boxes back up to a large air return vent that leads to the air circulator for my condo's HVAC on the other side of the wall, so I've always got a bit of a breeze pulling air away from the back of both my boxes through the wall into the HVAC circulator.
 
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The air return vent is almost the same color as the wall, you can just make it out in the pictures, it's about 18" x 24".
 
The one i helped install was getting around 25-30 idle, and no more than 42 playin crysis.  Was in a very cool room though, prob around 70-72.
 
Also, system looks freakin awesome!!!
 
Thanks!


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FLighT if you can give us your temps under-load that would be great, idle temps are suppose to be low and can't help us get a good idea of what temps are under load.

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Okay, taken some temps on the new liquid cooled box. The only thing that appears whacked (***) are the CPU 0 and 1 numbers in ESA. Not sure why but they've been consistently that way at idle since day 1.
 
The second set of CPUID #'s look better and make sense. I'm still running stock FSX. I'll run another set once I get all the add ons loaded and activated, make say a 5 hour flight and see what the results are. But, so far, it looks to me like the liquid cooling is working okay. Keep in mind I have only a single video card, no sound card and a dual loop on the liquid cooling so there's plenty of open space to dissipate heat before the 4 (?) fans move it through and out the back.
 

ESA readings @ idle

CPUID @ idle

CPIUD @ 45 minutes FSX, downtown Seattle, 2,000 feet, constantly changing views from inside to out, ultra high graphic settings.

 

 

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Extreme 3.0 (1333 MHz FSB) ALL in degrees C

 

 

             Value (Tj) (not sure what Tj stands for but maybe that's why the
Core0    51  ***                       values vary from CPUID)

Core1    50  ***   
Core2    32      
Core3    33      

GeForce GTX 280

                      Value        
GPU Core     39      

 

Chassis Temps

1     30

2     28

3     30

4     25

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CPUID

               Value           Min       Max

CPU       40   47        40   47     40   47

AUX       36   38        35   38     36   38

 

               Value         Min         Max
Core0    39   45        38   45     40   46
Core1    37   43        36   43     38   44
Core2    24   30        23   30     24   32
Core3    24   33        23   30     25   32

GeForce GTX 280

                      Value       Min        Max
GPU Core     40   46      40   46    41   47

 

 

             
Chassis        Value           Min          Max

1                   31   33        30   33      31   34

2                   29   32        29   32      29   33

3                   30   33        30   33      31   34

4                   26   27        26   27      26   28   

 

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Edited by FLighT - 06 Nov 2008 at 7:37am
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man those are some great temps

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