Nvidia 790I or ASUS P5Q3

With your rig I would seriously consider waiting for the next round of Intel chips before buying a new motherboard. It will have a different socket set so any board you buy today won't support the next generation of chips.  By then the ATI vs. NVidia battle will have shaken out some.

Edited by TomD - 15 Aug 2008 at 3:50pm

Originally posted by TomD I would seriously consider waiting for the next round of Intel chips before buying a new motherboard.

I would also advise you to wait for the new chip.

edited by DST4ME

Edited by DST4ME - 15 Aug 2008 at 6:05pm

Ok if that is the case then do what you got to do

and a great weekend to you too

Emmn, correct me if I'm wrong Kelly, but if DS is selling a Nehalem system then it would be stable.

as for being a fool, I can't say I agree,

A. there is no bandwagon, its just a better chip, period.

B. Stable as in how? without OC, ofcourse its stable.

C. support for what? I'm sure nobody is gonna by the chip itself without the mombo and other things.

clear-up those 2 for me so I can see where you are coming from, right now I don't think I get it clearly.

to be honest, anybody that buys a penryn right now with Nehalem to be out and working by the end of the year is a fool. The LGA1366 socket is gonna be good at-least thru 2010, penryn is done for already the qx9775 is the last one.

Is it smart for me to drop 6 grand on 2 quad core laptops of penryn or Nehalem?

Is it smart for me to drop 7 grand on a workstation that has penryn or Nehalem?

knowing any new chip in the next 2 year I will be able to update to.

Originally posted by DST4ME Emmn, correct me if I'm wrong Kelly, but if DS is selling a Nehalem system then it would be stable. as for being a fool, I can't say I agree, A. there is no bandwagon, its just a better chip, period. B. Stable as in how? without OC, ofcourse its stable. C. support for what? I'm sure nobody is gonna by the chip itself without the mombo and other things.

It is highly questionable as to core i7 being a better chip. It hasn't officially entered the market yet. As far as stability, the whole achitecture is new to intel. This is there second attempt to integrate a memory controller into their cpu. The first market attempt was a total failure. The fact that they released it shows that testing prior to sale is different than consumer usage. They are also going with a true quad core for the first time. In the past they've linked two dual cores to make quad cores. The whole new architecture for intel is going to change how their system works. They are on new territory and will need to work out various bugs that the consumer will find for them.

As for its potential as a fad, the next gen cpus for intel will be a different socket from core i7. The question then becomes will intel support both socket sets or will they choose one over the other. Trailblazers are welcome to spend their money to help intel decide which is the better choice for them. I personally am not into being part of R & D.

Edited by Tyler Lowe - 16 Aug 2008 at 12:11am

Originally posted by Tyler Lowe First up: MarkNY: If you are a fan of SLI, get a 790i, because the next round of motherboards is very unlikely to support SLI nearly as well as a true NVidia chipset.

you make it sound like this is the best graphics PC-s will ever have, there will be something just as good or better, if history has taught us anything in PC-s its that there is always something better coming up.

Originally posted by Tyler Lowe Originally posted by DST4ME B. Stable as in how? without OC, ofcourse its stable. C. support for what? I'm sure nobody is gonna by the chip itself without the mombo and other things.   I think this depends a bit on intended use but, I do think there should be at least some caution in approching a 100% new architecture. There are so  many things that are about to change when it comes to Nehelam. Widdlecat did a pretty good job of summing those things up, so I won't bother listing them again, but would like to suggest at least consideration of the possibility that any one of those things could be a failure and spell large problems for the first generation of Nehelam released.

again you make it sound as if there is a problem it won't be worked out.

if Bloomfield is not good right after that in 2009 Lynnfield will be out and then Westmere.

Originally posted by Tyler Lowe It is not merely a CPU that changes here, but all of the engineering that goes into a new motherboard architecture to support it. I see no reason to suspect that everything will not go right, but also no proof that it will.

No and you don't have any proof that it will not. However odds are that things will workout OK, since everybody is working hard to make sure they do.

Originally posted by Tyler Lowe I would never call anyone that prefers to be in the crowd of early adaptors a fool, but I have also been burned enough times traveling down that road to let someone else be the guinea pig.

I did not call any early adapters a fool, I do call somebody who buys a 2008 Toyota in august and pay the same price they could have for a 2009 model in Jan of 09.(if they don't have to buy)

Originally posted by Tyler Lowe  I am also highly reluctant to degrade what someone else finds to be the best solution for their needs, be that a Nehalem or a used P3 they found at a yardsale. Each of us must decide for ourselves, what will, or will not meet our criteria for "worthy of purchase". The act of making that decision does not, IMO, invalidate the decision of anyone else. I believe there is room in the market for more than one solution, and that each of these offers pros and cons. Choosing differently than another does not, IMO, make either person a "fool".

well we all can think what we all like but for example no matter how hard I think it would, a p3 is never gonna be a better chip then a penryn in this industry. Now if you notice, I'm not degrading p3, I'm merely pointing out that right now p3 is not gonna be worth what a penryn is or do what a penryn can.

This is a gaming PC site, games run best with a quad core, now if me and you can't afford to get the best quad core out there, it does not make it any less of a quad core.

The best solution is the benchmark crusher in a gaming world, lets not forget. That is our highest and most powerful PC we sell here.


See the problem here is that you guys won't do what you ask us do to.

If you want us to believe something can go wrong then in-turn you have to admit it could not. In these cases a look at the history of the subject can reveal a probable percent of which way it could go, and history says it has a better chance of working out then not.

thats as close to facts we can get, the rest is our opinion and those are dime a dozen.


I understand and respect what you are saying but I think looking at the big picture, things can only get better.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Aug 2008 at 12:36am

IF you want to get technical, and we all would agree hypothetically that Nehalem is better then his money would be better spent on Nehalem for his needs.

Anyways I was just giving the OP my opinion, and I have not seen any facts that proves anything you guys are saying, you guys are speculating more then I am and to a further extent then I am.

You guys have a right to your opinions and I have a right to mine.

As usual, time will prove me right.