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hotcakes22 
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Hey, I was wondering about getting a good nVidia card but am unsure about the value and performance differences between the GTX 260 core 216, 280, 285 and 295.
I was leaning towards the 285. Is it a smaller card than the 295? How is it value-wise? |
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<8) slunK parade
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Posted: 13 Mar 2009 at 11:50pm |
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285 is fastest single GPU solution
quite cheaper than a 295 295 is the fasest card on the market(dual GPU) 285 is good for low resolution gaming with max settings 295 good for high resolution max settings 285- in the 340$ range 295- 500$ Edited by <8) slunK parade - 16 Mar 2009 at 1:32pm |
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hotcakes22
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I'm using a 19" monitor. Perhaps I should wait for the ATi 4890 to come out, which might instigate a price drop for the 285s...? Or would it not just better for me to get an inexpensive 4870 X2 if I find one?
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for a 19" monitor I think a 285 will be just fine.
 
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<8) slunK parade
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 2:50am |
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i have a 19'' monitor too mate
the highest res mine goes up to is 1280x1024 so i dont thnk ud need anything more powerful than a 285, itd save u alot of money too |
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hotcakes22
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 5:01pm |
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Hmmm, the 285 requires 2 PCI-e slots?
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<8) slunK parade
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 5:12pm |
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depends wat motherboard u have
if the one u have has PCIe slots that are rightnext to each other then it will most likely cover the one its plugged into and the one next to it, if theres a x4 or x1 slot next to the one with the 285 then itll only take up 1pcie |
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Apparently "this graphics card requires one vacant add-in card slot below the PCI Express x16 slot. The card physically occupies two slots." I have only 1 PCI-e x16 slot. I have an avalable PCI-e x1 slot and an available PCI normal slot. Am I outta luck? |
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 5:14pm |
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I run 1920 X 1200 on a 24 " and the 295 allows me to run everything at max with all the eye candy settings turned it. It is totally immersive!!!!!
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hotcakes22
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 5:15pm |
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Here is what I have:
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<8) slunK parade
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 5:19pm |
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dudeee your not getting this lul
if you have one open PCIe x16 slot you can put the card in unless theres someting in one of the lesser slots that would block it, because the 285 is huge and takes up the slot it occupies and the one below it |
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it needs one to run but its so big that it will cover the next pci bus next to it. |
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hotcakes22
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Ah, thanks guys. Wasn't sure if it was OK if the "extra" PCI slot was not a PCI-e x16, but since it is OK, then I think I will proceed with the 285.
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Posted: 14 Mar 2009 at 10:11pm |
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ya its fine, I think that the whole 200 GTX line has the same size, in depth.
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Are there ever problems gaming with dual cards, i.e. a game will only take advantage of one GPU in a 4870 X2 or GTX 295? I thought I heard of instances of this, but I may be mistaken. |
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<8) slunK parade
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only a few games dont support SLI
so on dual GPU cards like the X2 and 295 it woulndt use both GPUs for single gpu cards like the 285 it runs full speed but the number of games that dont support SLI are very few |
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well lately the sli profile will help some, also you can just disable the internal sli and just use one of the cores, for example a 295 GTX, with no internal sli is practically like running a single 260 GTX.
for people with high resolutions, games that don't' support sli will be a bit of problem. I'm sure games that don't support sli are either beginning to use it, or hopefully start, cause its a shame. |
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Are there ever problems fitting power supplies in towers or not really?
Will a PSU with 2 x 6+2Pin be fine for the 285, which says it needs 2 x 6 Pin?
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yes that will be fine, the 6+2 is that it can fit both 6pin or 8 pin, for 6pin you just slid out the 2.
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Is an "SLI-compatible" motherboard necessary to use a GTX 295?
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for a single 295 I'm gonna say no, but if your pci slot is not a pci-e 2.0 x16 then you my not get the full speed of the card
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hotcakes22
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Well, I do have a PCI x16, not sure if it's 2.0.
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I would definitely work but the performance would be different with a 2.0
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is there a way I can check if it is 2.0 or not?
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the mobo is G33 Express
it seems this is not pci-e 2.0 but an older version...
What would the performance difference be with a GTX 295 with normal PCI-e x16 compared to 2.0?
Would normal PCI-e x16 also hinder performance if I got a GTX 285? Edited by hotcakes22 - 25 Mar 2009 at 4:45pm |
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I'm not sure how much of a performance drop you will experience but your bandwidth will be lower.
this would go for any card that is designed for 2.0 Edited by DST4ME - 25 Mar 2009 at 4:51pm |
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If I put an ATI card in my machine, then did a system restore, which would install the stock nVidia drivers, would my computer function at all properly? Would I merely need to uninstall the nVidia driviers and install ATI drivers, or would I not even be able to use the computer?
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yup uninstall Nvidia drivers then install ATI drivers
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Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it. What sort of machine are you running, if I may ask?
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What card did you end up deciding on?
I would highly reccomend getting a 4890 and OCing it to 1ghz core speed and 4ghz(effective) memory. Ive seen the memory get to 4.8Ghz(effective) already. Thats without the OC versions even being out yet. |
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I would highly recommend staying away from the 4890 due to heat and noise, you can get a 285 or 275 and have the same performance minus the heat and noise.
here is the oc difference: far cry 2: 
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Hey man, I'm really not sure. I was about to get a 285, which is very expensive. But now all of a sudden there are the 4890s and 275s, which are more reasonably priced. The 4890 is noisy, which bothers me a bit.
If I did get a 4890, I'm not sure what brand I should get (i.e. ASUS, Diamond, Sapphire).
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honestly I see nothing great about it, aside from driver issues that ATI seems to have with cf, and the noise from this card, I don't see why one would not go with a 275 or 285, I understand the 285 costs more but its more powerful too, I mean in high settings even the sp 260+ can hold its own against the 4890, the 4870 also can hold its own against the 4890 with less noise too.
If I were you I would look at the 275 or the 4870. Edited by DST4ME - 04 Apr 2009 at 1:43am |
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