NVIDIA VS. ATI

Which config is better, dual NVIDIA GTX 280 or dual ATI 4870X2?

Are there any head to head comparisons out there?

um what is the link u posted for lol?
heres one comparison i posted link in middle but u can look trhough it and compare by prices of vid cards

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU1OCwxNCwsaGVudGh1c2lhc3Q=


Edited by MyThLoSt - 19 Nov 2008 at 11:56am

it says page not found for me.link not working is what i meant...

then new nvidia dual core will take care of 4870x2, specially since 4870x2 does not have its own drivers, so you can't even take full advantage of the card right now, it works fine but you are not using all its potentials till it has its own drivers.

only in high resolutions does the 4870x2 beat the GTX, but with a dual card you can handle that.

so in short its preference, no matter which way you go, you gonna drop some $$

The new dual 260 is not going to beat the 4870 X2. Because they'll just be slapping two 260's together and call it something new and exciting. Just like with the 9800 GX2.

Truth is, the 4870 X2 is the faster card on the planet. And it can run a lot quicker with some light overclocking and when ATI releases their next major driver update which will unlock some of the X2's locked features.

The 4870 X2 getting faster...that's a scary thought .

Thats what i thought, why would they make a special driver for HD 4870x2 when it already smokes any other card put against it?

I used dual 4870 X2's and dual 280 GTX's in the past. The 4870 X2's were definitely the fastest by a good margin. However, I ran into so many game compatibility problems that I switched to the 280 GTX.

The 4870 X2 had problems with these games:
     Crysis
     Tomb Raider Anniversary
     Tomb Raider Underworld
     Half Life 2: Episode 2

I think driver updates have fixed all of the problems by now. However, I lost patience and just switched to Nvidia. So far I've been very happy with Nvidia.

ever since amd took over ati, it went down the drain with problems

When do you think ATI will get some good drivers? Maybe after NVIDIA released its X2 ATI will send it back to the shelf's without even putting a new card into production. That would be nice.

I don't suppose you're saying this after messing with the visual settings on the Control Panel of both brands right?

Since monitor is also a deciding factor at that point as well.  If anything the only comparison between an ATI and Nvidia screenshot of the same scene in a game that I've noticed was sometimes texture appearance, but that in itself was so minuscule and rarely occured, it didn't really matter.


Edited by Axel Daemon - 11 Dec 2008 at 8:13am

If I wasn't concerned about slot usage on the motherboard, I may have ended up with the 4870X2 ahaah.  But seeing as how my setup uses just about every slot, next best thing would be GTX 280.

Originally posted by Rad!caL That explains why ATI has owned the top speed crown since the 4870 X2 came out .But during AMD's acquisition of ATI, it's clear that they weren't able to compete at the highest level for over a year. But now I'm glad that ATI is back and releasing top performing cards again.

only 4 month of kingdom is not much and once the gtx285 or what ever it is comes out, they won't be king anymore, but the fact that it does not have its own drivers after 4 month tells you how crappy they are.

Hmm let me see, I pay 500 to buy their product and the fact that they don't support proper drivers for it, hmm is that bunch of greedy f**ckers that didn't give me what I should have gotten from day one.

So next time you buy your g15 or what ever mouse and keyboard you get, I hope you are OK with their basic functions till logitech feels like releasing the proper drivers for it, say 5 month later.

now does that make logitech brilliant business men or bunch of cheap greedy mfrs?

I love how lack of dignity and class and a simple give me what I paid for, are not looked at being brilliant.

there is nothing brilliant about cheating people from what is rightfully their and they paid for.

take out dignity, class, common sense and the fact that you should get everything you paid for, and instead don't' give a f**k about the customer and what they deserve, I guess it would look like brilliance, but if you know what being brilliant really is then I don't see how you could make that mistake.

1bril·liant
Pronunciation:
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1: very bright : glittering <a brilliant light>
2 a: striking , distinctive <a brilliant example> b: distinguished by unusual mental keenness or alertness

Now I don't know who taught you that taking advantage of people is being "distinguished by unusual mental keenness or alertness", taking advantage of people takes no intelligence or special skill, you just need to be a low life motherF**ker.

you want to call low lifes brilliant, just based on money, go ahead, but a "brilliant business man" is a lot more then just somebody who makes alot of money by any means possible, by those standards, every crook is a brilliant business man.



Edited by DST4ME - 11 Dec 2008 at 5:03pm

Originally posted by DST4ME Originally posted by Rad!caL That explains why ATI has owned the top speed crown since the 4870 X2 came out .But during AMD's acquisition of ATI, it's clear that they weren't able to compete at the highest level for over a year. But now I'm glad that ATI is back and releasing top performing cards again. only 4 month of kingdom is not much and once the gtx285 or what ever it is comes out, they won't be king anymore, but the fact that it does not have its own drivers after 4 month tells you how crappy they are.

They do have their own drivers...they just came out this week. What's funny though, is that the 4870 X2 without it's own drivers still has been the top performer since it came out.

It's forward thinking on ATI's part, releasing something that runs blazing fast and allow it to become even faster over time. Brilliance if you ask me.

And sorry a couple 260's glued together in a rush are not going to out perform a single-PCB 4870 X2. And the GTX 295 is going to basically be a 280 with die shrink and not much else.

Originally posted by Axel Daemon Originally posted by Rad!caL At least you can fit 2 4870 X2's and 1 PCIe slot together on the Rampage II. If you're referring to that lone black one, no thanks to that center heatsink (Xonar D2X anyone?  Won't fit in that black one that's for sure lol).  Almost anything with a decent length won't fit there.  Assuming by the color coding the two blue PCI-E x16 are 2.0 Thankfully you can just buy some after-market center heatsink to clear up the spacing.  (And is thankfully available)

No I'm talking about the very bottom PCIe slot. You can put both 4870 X2's in the 2 blue slots and the bottom white PCIe can be used for anything.

Originally posted by Rad!caL Originally posted by DST4ME [QUOTE=Rad!caL] That explains why ATI has owned the top speed crown since the 4870 X2 came out .But during AMD's acquisition of ATI, it's clear that they weren't able to compete at the highest level for over a year. But now I'm glad that ATI is back and releasing top performing cards again. It's forward thinking on ATI's part, releasing something that runs blazing fast and allow it to become even faster over time. Brilliance if you ask me.

LOL its too funny you call not getting the speed you should have had right from the start brilliance


be sure to tell DS not to give the OC your paid for and instead 6 month later OC your PC, cause its a brilliant idea

they give you something fast and down the road it gets faster I mean who cares about what you paid for and what you should get its forward thinking, or better knows as "getting ripped off and loving it"

Edited by DST4ME - 12 Dec 2008 at 1:06am

Originally posted by Axel Daemon ...... OOOOPS  oh right silly me.  I completely forgot the general rule of thumb that x16s can be even used for x1 interface hardware. On a serious note, have you found any type of hardware (maybe TV Tuners aside??) that can fit in that black one, aside from the sound card that comes with the mobo?  I really think it's more logical sounding to replace that heatsink with something else. And, while I'm all up for purchasing a 4870 X2 just as I am with GTX 280s.  (Just one fits more nicely with my setup), it's really.... how should I put it hard(or awkward) how you're sticking to the 4870 x2 like hot glue..... trying my best not to say the fb word lol.

Yeah so far nothing can really fit into those PCIe slots.

I own 2 8800 GTX's currently. In fact I've only bought nVidia products since 2005 because they have been the fastest.

Now ATI owns the high end market with the 4870 X2. It offers a sizable lead over the 280 in both single and multiple card configurations. It has nothing to do with me liking one company over the other, I like what's the best/fastest. Right now that's ATI.

And DST4ME - You clearly do not understand the concept. If I was ATI and I made a product that was vastly superior to nVidia's top card why would I make it 3 times as fast at release? People would still buy it if there was even 10-20% increase in performance. Instead I would handicap it a little and through drivers, increase it's performance over time to compete with nVidia's new cards.

Yeah it's definitely smart.

Yes HM it did work right out of the box, but wouldn't you want the full capabilities of the card you paid good money for, the day you got it, instead of abilities that are just now available after 5 or 6 month, due to proper drivers?

I'm not saying its not a good card, I'm not saying its not a fast card.

I'm saying you not being able to use the card to its full capabilities from day one is BS and something you paid for and should have gotten. Nothing in million mile radius of brilliant there.

Edited by DST4ME - 12 Dec 2008 at 8:23pm