ODE Level 3 - noise level and miscPost Date: 2011-12-23 |
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apacke09 
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 Topic: ODE Level 3 - noise level and miscPosted: 23 Dec 2011 at 4:16pm |
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Besides gaming, I'm also thinking about doing some music recording with whatever new pc I end up with. I'm curious about the noise level of the ODE Level 3. I know there are a number of parts that can cause noise (case fans, psu, cpu fans, graphics fans)... I'm hoping someone can give me an idea of the overall "noise footprint" of this pc. I can try some other tricks to cut down on the ambient noise the mic picks up, but obviously the less noise coming from the pc while I'm recording, the better. Regarding graphics cards that have their own fans: do they spin all the time, or do they only spin up when they're being pushed hard when I'm gaming?
Unrelated to noise, I would like a BluRay player, but ODE Level 3 does not include one. Is that something that would be pretty easy to install myself later? I'm not totally green, but It's been about eight years since I really cracked open a computer case and did any major fussing about.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 5:46pm |
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Installing ram/hdd/ssd/dvd/bd/gpu/pci cards are all very easy for someone who is "green", we can walk you thru it easy.
noise on the ode 3 is that the fans are a little loud, the gpus do have their own fans but you can control those and as long as the gpu is not under full load you can keep them down and quiet. most of your fans are gonna be coming from the cpu cooler ode's fans and gpu's fan when under load. What is the native resolution of the monitor you gonna be gaming at? Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2011 at 5:46pm |
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apacke09
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 7:00pm |
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1920 x 1080
I have two monitors at that res, but it's just for more desktop real estate, my gaming will be single screen only. I had been thinking about tailoring a build for quiet, but that ODE level 3 is such a good deal and I don't want to break the bank and spend hours of research if I'd only be cutting a few decibels. On the other hand, I won't be happy if it sounds like a jet engine like my current 8-year old pc. |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 23 Dec 2011 at 7:35pm |
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Tough to say honestly, I know people that complain about the noise of ode 3 and people that have no issues with it.
to custom config, I can tell you for dual sli 570, you looking at around $3000, without the promo discount, but that config will have better case, mobo, psu, hdd, cpu cooler. Edited by DST4ME - 23 Dec 2011 at 7:36pm |
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apacke09
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 2:37pm |
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Config: 637399 Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New B3 Revision) (Does Not Support SLI) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA 025-P3-1579-BR) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance (Does NOT fit on the regular EVGA X58 3X SLI) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Blue) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty Thanks for the input. I love the idea of the ODE builds, but for what I want, I think a custom build is the way to go for me.
First a couple of corrections/clarifications:
1. My main monitor is actually 1900 x 1200. My side monitor is 1900 x 1080.
2. Regarding graphics, upon further research (correct me if I'm wrong), I think dual 570s might be overkill for me. Most of my gaming is on console. I don't do any FPSs on pc or anything like that. I'll play the heck out of Diablo 3 when it comes out, as long as I can fully enjoy that, I'll be happy. I'm sort of interested in Witcher 2, and but not enough to affect my build here.
Some questions about this config:
CPU: Is it worth the extra $88 to go from 2600K 3.4GHz to 2700K 3.5Ghz? I'm trying to futureproof within reason, this pc will probably have to last at least five years.
RAM: Any reason to change from the 8GB 1600MHz DS?
PSU: No idea what kind of wattage I need. Are the silent editions really that much quieter than the default 800W Corsair? I don't want to blow an extra $100 for unnecessary / unnoticeable improvements.
Hard Drive: I do want SSD, Intel 320 seems to be well-regarded. I'll pick up extra storage later, as necessary, when prices go down.
Graphics: For my needs, and noise concerns, I'm thinking a single 570. I selected the 2.5Gb for futureproofing, is that worth the extra $50?
Cooling: I've heard the Noctua is good, but it's extra $. Is it worth it for this kind of build? Would I only want this if I keep the CPU Boost?
Chassis Airflow, Fan Controllers, Noise Reduction: I am concerned about noise, but I don't want to go overboard and spend hundreds of dollars extra for only a minor bit of noise reduction. Realistically, will any of these options make a noticeable difference in the noise level of my computer? After all, when I'm recording, there are other methods outside the pc itself for keeping pc noise from being picked up on the mic.
CPU Boost: The $49 does not concern me. I am, however, concerned about this hurting the longevity of the cpu, if that even makes sense. I am also concerned about noise; if this causes a lot of extra heat, which causes the fans to work harder and louder, all for a performance gain that isn't even noticeable for what I'm doing, than I do not want to do this.
Shoot, this got long, sorry about that. Thanks for any advice.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 4:02pm |
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1. same difference.
2. ok so you want a single gpu system, I will make some changes for you in your build to make it more reliable and better performing. 3. no its not worth it to go 2700k, take 2600k add 10mhz to its speed and you have 2700k, in short they are the same chip one is clocked insignificantly higher, since we are doing oc here, there will be no difference between 2700k at 4.6GHz vs 2600k at 4.6GHz. 4. no reason to change ram. 5. psu is important you want quality psu, the 750whx is what you want, 7 year warranty and much much better psu then the inferior 800w, when it comes to psu, you want good ones, corsair has some good ones but only in their hx and ax lines, those are only ones I use and recommend. 6. ssd/hdd, good idea, get teh hdd when prices are back down to normal, get it from newegg or amazon and save some good money. need help installing, just go to the hardware section of the forum and ask for help and we will walk you thru. 7. there is no future proofing, if you get to the point where for a single system you need more vram then its mostl ikey that your gpu can't pull its weight either, but if you want the 2.5GB go for it. 8. its either noctua or a70, there are king in performance till you get to stage 4 lc, a70 is a little louder then noctua, if you want quiet get the d14 if not a70. 9. your only and main noise will come from gpus's fans, the haf's fans are quiet, the cpu cooler we already went thru. the fan controller will not controll all your fans or case fans. noise reduction will get ride of 10% of your noise and in the process it can take away from your airflow depending, also you trap noise, you trap heat. the cpu is the brain of your pc, when you make it run faster it means your pc is faster, what would happen if I could make you think 20% faster then you do now? the same goes for cpu, faster cpu = faster pc. the 2600k oces great (low heat, low vcore), but even if heat was an issue the only fan that would be effected would be your cpu cooler (d14 or a70), everything else is not changed (other fans and etc). 2 things kill a cpu, heat and vcore, if you are below 85c you can expect cpu to outlive the pc itself (over 8 years), with 24/7 use vcore higher then 1.4 will speed up the death of cpu, at 1.5 you can expect cpu to die in a year, around 1.48 probably a year and half, give or take a few months, if you want the cpu to outlive the pc then you want vcore below 1.4. The oc DS does is good but they endup with a vcore that can be adjusted to be lower but keep the same oc (around 4.4Ghz to 4.6GHz depending) this is based on member's oc being adjusted here by other members and based on what many users have on other oc forums. Now for your build, it looks good, however you need to change psu to 750w hx, much better psu and a 7 year warranty, and also I would go with stage 2 oc. you have chosen blue lights I see, keep in mind the front fan of haf x is red led, if you want blue you need to get the blue haf x which is gonna cost a little more. |
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FrankW
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 6:25pm |
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Hi apacke09,
Noise is relative to the person who is listening. As mentioned by DST4ME, some have complained about the noise of the ODE-3. While others don't think they are noisy at all. If you are going to do high fidelity sound recording then I think the ODE-3, or just about any gaming computer, will be too loud. If you have a high performance mic it will pick up background noise in a normal size room in a home. You should be thinking about seperating the computer and the mic with an insulated wall. It has a lot to do with how serious you are about the music you are recording. Frank |
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apacke09
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Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 8:20pm |
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Ticket Number: 637572 Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=637572 Specifications: Frank, about the noise, I'm on the same page - rather than dump tons of money into a ninja-quiet pc, I'm probably just going to physically separate the pc and the mic as much as I can and throw up a makeshift buffer/wall of some sort. I haven't looked into it yet, but one option I've heard of is to get some long KVM cables, I could practically have my pc in the next room over. If I were very serious about high-quality recording, I would build a separate pc solely for that purpose - multi-core high speed but silent, with no graphics, and I would have to seriously remodel the room I'm in. At this point, though, it's just a hobby I've always been interested in pursuing.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 2:03am |
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For the haf x blue that is what you have to do (ask DS to order it for you, it will cost a bit extra but all fans will be blue, but
Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans: haf 200mm non led fan Ask for vcore lower then 1.4 for your oc. now the mentioned fan is non led if you want that fan to be led also then ask for this one instead: haf 200mm blue led fan so the non led is if you go with the haf x here, the blue led is if you get the haf x blue edition. I overlooked something, for stage 2 oc we need a pro or deluxe mobo, so if you want go with z68 v pro for mobo instead. |
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apacke09
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 9:44am |
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Wow, thanks so much for all the help. I was going to ask a follow up question about that vcore business, but you just answered it already. I wouldn't have had a clue about the motherboard, so thanks for that, I updated my config with the one you suggested. And finally, thanks for the fan links and tips on the case. Sometimes it's worth spending a little bit extra on something to make it feel a little more special, a little more like it's yours.
That pretty much completes my build then. I wish I could say I was ready to order right now this moment, but there are a couple of variables I need to wait on. It could be next week, or it could be three months, but it's happening soon one way or another.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 30 Dec 2011 at 1:19pm |
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Sounds good tho if you are gonna buy in 3 months, I'm not sure we would be suggesting the same build so if that is the case please come back and let us recommend a config at that time, parts and prices change all the time.
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apacke09
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 7:29pm |
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Getting things together to order, had a couple of questions for DS. Tried to chat, but that's not up now, so I called and have been talking to someone there at DS, but we got cut off or he accidentally put me on hold or something, it hung up on me.
Anyway, I'm getting some push back on a couple of things. The blue edition of the HAF X isn't going to work out, there's a big special order charge, an extra $129, and blue vs red isn't that big of a deal for me.
Question about CPU cooling and overclocking. The guy on the phone seems to be convinced that the Noctua D-14 is not a good idea at all, it's just too big (this may have come up when I was asking about the 2nd fan for the top of the case, can't remember).
So is the Corsair A70 still decent enough for my build? The guy on the phone didn't sound comfortable with a stage 2 overclock with the Corsair A70, said it would just barely maybe be good enough, that I should stick with stage 1 oc. I'm wondering what you guys think.
Also, noise is a concern, and I've heard the Corsair A70 is louder than the Noctua D-14. I can live with it if it's not too loud. I don't want it to be the one obnoxiously loud part on the machine either.
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Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 7:39pm |
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Our team is going to give suggestions based on their experience, especially if you ask them for what they think of a configuration. You can always select what ever configuration you want to go with.
We personally prefer not using the big heavy air heat-sinks which are susceptible to damage and they also do not allow access to memory modules for customers for upgrades and even troubleshooting (such as re-seating memory sticks). The Corsair A70 does not fully cover the new X79 chipset CPUs which makes it not as effective. The Corsair H80/H100 are our recommendations as they are great coolers that are very effective. I know DST4ME will disagree, (we had a few threads about this
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 10:37am |
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Ticket Number: 640409 Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=640409 Specifications: 
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apacke09
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I changed motherboards to the P67 Deluxe, though right now I can't remember precisely why. That's terrible, I know. I stuck with the HAF 942 X, though I did flirt with the idea of getting the Assassin case for awhile. I decided to hold my ground on the Noctua - flipping around the forums, it seems like there have been satisfied cutsomers who got the HAF 942 X case with the Noctua, and from all the reviews from all over that I’ve read, it sounds like the most reliably quiet solution. So I guess we’ll see how that goes. I’m already worried about how I’m going to figure it out if anything goes wrong with anything, and it sounds like having that huge Noctua just complicates things even further, if I have to fuss around in there at all. I bumped up to 16Gb of RAM. I know that might end up being a silly decision. First, depending on what I do with my audio recording, it may come in handy, if I’ve got a complex mix going on with a ton of tracks and effects and whatnot. Second, getting the Noctua, adding RAM later might be a pain, so I figured I’d just take care of it now and never have to worry about RAM again. I backed down a bit on the OC, only doing Stage 1, not Stage 2. I guess I'm just worried about noise and everything else, this is already going to be lightyears better than my current pc. And finally, I bumped up my video card to the 2.5Gb because I was just shy of getting an extra $25 on the discount, so I figured why not. I did ask for that 2nd 200mm fan on top in the assembly instructions. Now I'm just nervous as all heck, this is a huge purchase for me and a ton of money for my family to let go of, it’s hard to invest this much on a computer with my wife and kids looking over my shoulder. I'm so ignorant about so much of this stuff, I'm just really hoping I didn't make any huge mistakes and that this all works out well. |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 11:34pm |
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Well your changes are ok, tho you know we think some are waste but its your preference, what I'm saying is you didn't make any choices that would make things worst.
but for your oc, lets clarify somethings: 1. oc noise, there won't be any noise from it cause you got noctua its pretty quiet, most of your noise is gonna come from gpu's fans when under load. 2. there is nothing else to worry about just ask ds for vcore of 1.4 or lower, the rest if covered. |
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