Out of the loop is this any good?Post Date: 2010-11-18 |
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cogitoergosum
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Topic: Out of the loop is this any good?Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 2:21pm |
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~$1,600 Expectations: Solid gaming at High on a single 22=24" monitor at 1600 or 1920 resolutions. Usage: Gaming, light multimedia editing Special Needs: Quieter would be ideal as its in my bedroom and i typically keep it on 24/7. Heat issues as its under a table and the rear towards a wall (current machine averages 80-101 degrees F from idle to max usage) Saved Ticket #: 458599 Specifications: Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth X58 (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s) System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: - No Thanks Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) (Great Value) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: FREE PROMO: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty Additional Notes: Currently I run a Quad Core 6600 @ 2.4 Mhz, 6GB DDD2 (1066 Mhz I think) Memory, Asus Striker Extreme, 2x 150 GB Raptors (No RAID. Aging). 8800 GTX 768MB. Purchased August 07... Now for the above I paid $2,800. I don't use my computer nearly as much and simply can't justify the same amount anymore...My gamings gone down as has most of my editing and development work (I do IT). What I'm looking for is a solid machine that can last 3-4 years and is upgradeable. I.e. Video Card and processor. I run Starcraft, Fallout 3, Crysis etc right now relatively well (all I think are on high settings). I plan to upgrade my 22" monitor to a 24 inch which would mean higher resolution. Would my above setup 1. Surpass my current set up and 2. Be decent enough to run Fallout Vegas, Crysis 2, Starcraft II, CoD BlackOps, Deus Ex (Slated 2011) etc on High settings? I want a machine that will last and be hassle free. I've built my own systems and have typically utilized fans before. Never utilized Liquid Cooling not sure if I'd need it. |
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brandonf
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Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 6:57pm |
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For what it's worth, I purchased a DS system with slightly lesser specs than what you just outlined and I have no trouble running Fallout New Vegas at max settings on a 23.6" monitor. I can't speak to some of the other games, and I'm no expert, just throwing in my two cents.
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Agreach2
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Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 8:01pm |
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I'm certainly not an expert but after being around these boards for a bit I think most people would tell you to go with the Noctua U12P air cooler. I recommend reading ender's buying guide, it's incredibly helpful!!
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Aroberts0820
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Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 9:14pm |
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Just food for thought: upgrading your monitor to a monitor 2 inches bigger shouldn't be affecting your play resolution (unless you current monitor doesn't support 1920x1200 or 1920x1080). I could be wrong but I don't believe you'll get a higher native resolution out of a monitor unless you go up to a 30 incher (that supports 2560x1600). Either way the difference between 1920x1200 on a 22 inch monitor and a 24 is basically neglible. Your GPU isn't going to be working any harder, so that concern can be put to rest.
Also, are you canibalizing your old drives for your new system? I noticed you don't have a hard drive selected in your build. If you already know this then please disregard, BUT...if you are canibalizing your old drive if you simply slap it into the new system it probably won't work, if you are planning on doing this AND reinstalling windows, then that will work.
As Agreach had mentioned, the Noctua coolers are pretty kick-ass. You could, without actually testing it in your build, more than likely get away with one in this system with the current OC you chose and still be plenty cool, CPU-wise.
While you say you do less and less gaming I would like to point out that the games you want to play are fairly demanding, if the new Deus-Ex is anything like it's predecessors it's going to be a resource-hog. You may want to consider SLI'ing 2 460's, the price jump is around $175 and I believe, again off the top of my head, the performance is higher than a single 480 (which is more than a couple hundred dollars expensive than the 470 for one). Also, why not take the free video card over-clock?
Same build without hard drive, but with the Noctua added and SLI'ed 460's instead of the single 470 runs $1677 after instant savings.
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cogitoergosum
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 9:49am |
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Thanks for the input. I do intend to cannibalize the drives though do a fresh wipe of them. I'll probably get a fresh 300GB 10k RPM Raptor for my primary HD and utilize my old HDs for additional storage for now.
I'll look into the SLI'ing two 460s. my initial plan had to get a 470 now and eventually get a second to SLI with at a later point when one simply didn't cut it, I didn't think two 460's would out perform a 480 but I suppose I'll need to read up on that. Thanks. |
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!ender_
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 5:38pm |
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two 460s are not better than a 480
for your budget, id get http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=459972
if you feel youll have money for another 470 soon enough, bump up to a 1000w PSU, if not, start saving for the next best single video card
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Dragoonseal
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 9:28pm |
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Please don't waste your money on one of those. The older 300GB VelociRaptors are actually slower than now standard 1TB 7200RPM HDDs. The only single VelociRaptor faster is the newer large 600GB model, but only by literately 10%, which in conventional HDD performance numbers is almost nothing, yet it costs over 5 times as much (GB per $). Plus I'm pretty sure they lose performance faster (smaller platter size), though I haven't seen any testing on it.
Echoing Bender on not doing that. FPS for dual 460s are all over the place, super low minimum frames, really high maximum frames, not fluid at all, even worse at higher resolutions and settings. |
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Aroberts0820
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 9:42pm |
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Sorry, I guess my info was incorrect. I was basing my info off of what I read at this link: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/07/12/nvidia_geforce_gtx_460_sli_performance_followup/
Again, sorry if I sent you down the path of incorrect regarding the SLI'ed 460s.
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Dragoonseal
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Posted: 22 Nov 2010 at 10:04pm |
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Oddly, that very article pretty well sums up my thoughts on why not to go with SLI 460s, both in the conclusion and the aside on fluidity just before it. |
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