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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: P6X58D vs Rampage 3 extreme
    Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 6:13pm
I am building a gaming rig with a budget of $3000 and I am confused as to which motherboard is better. Here is my config so far.

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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 8:22pm
If you're picking it for the USB 3.0 you can just select the EVGA USB 3.0 PCIe card from the Add-on Card menu instead for much cheaper, just $25. If you're picking it for the SATA III 6Gb/s, don't.

That build is kind of jumbled, try this for a better base to build from.

Ticket Number: 430725
Total Price with Instant Savings: $1,995.00

Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=430725

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.8GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series  (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (40GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X-25V Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
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Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: FREE: Hot-selling game with a NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or above graphics card
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 8:57pm
That definitely improves on my build as I did not think I could get away with a 750W power supply. Between the EVGA x58 LE, P6X58D and Rampage 3 extreme which board has better on board audio?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 9:50pm
Originally posted by Benson729

That definitely improves on my build as I did not think I could get away with a 750W power supply. Between the EVGA x58 LE, P6X58D and Rampage 3 extreme which board has better on board audio?

Oh that's easy. They all use the Realtek ALC889 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC, so they should all sound identical.
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 10:32pm
Is Asus fan Xpert useful and are the temperature control interfaces worth considering.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 10:48pm
I don't see the appeal of fan controllers. Only something like add on performance Zalman fans are even loud enough to warrant needing to fiddle with their speeds, but the Zalman fans themselves aren't worth it anyway, so I don't see the point.
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2010 at 12:00am
Ok, I was only going to use fan controllers to minimize power usage but if it's not necessary that's good to know. The most important thing to me in this build is airflow my small bedroom can get up to eighty degrees at times.
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 22 Aug 2010 at 12:45am
sadly, the rooms temp matters almost as much as the fans you use, the cooler the room, the better
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  Quote abbiewilkins21 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 5:24am
Get the Rampage III Extreme.. It has a better layout for you to go tri or quad GPU setup (if need be) anytime in the future. Performance wise though, both will perform roughly the same.. As a side note, the R3E will suit your arsenal which already comprises of all the best available components in the market (and you like the color scheme anyway..
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 6:22am
Originally posted by abbiewilkins21

Get the Rampage III Extreme.. It has a better layout for you to go tri or quad GPU setup (if need be) anytime in the future. Performance wise though, both will perform roughly the same.. As a side note, the R3E will suit your arsenal which already comprises of all the best available components in the market (and you like the color scheme anyway..

But when are tri or quad GPU setups ever needed? And the EVGA x58 LE already does triple GPUs.

So if both support triple GPUs and both perform the same, why spend an extra +$219 for a pretty color scheme? That's just wasteful.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 6:26am
Bah, disregard, should of trusted my gut when I seen abbie constantly looking at a "Access denied" area earlier, it's just a bot or someone trying to advertise their stupid 'laptop bag' site.
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:07am
hahahaha
its so funny to get on in the morning knowing ill see at least one exchange with you and a bot Ninja
 
though your points are valid :)
 
not that i spend much time looking in to 3 / 4 card setups, but i believe at the end of the day both motherboards will do 16x 8x 8x or  8x * 4, so the multicard support wouldnt be any different
 
i have to say, the more i read, the less i want to back up asus over evga, i feel the dark side pulling me... or the light side, i guess that depends on perspective Big%20Smile
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 9:18am
smart bots lately lol
The RE III does have a way better PCIE slot layout, allowing for tri-sli on most cases.
For the average DS customer, the RE III is better with multi cards, besides a better PCIE layout, it also has molex connectors to boost power to the PCIe rails, a huge weak spot on most mobo's when running multi cards.
And, the VRM, NB cooling is also better, plus a ton of little details, but for mild usage, the little differences, and BIOS changes won't really matter.
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 1:15pm
I will probably be running a single card layout but I am looking for fan speed controls and it comes down to which board is better for gaming.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by Benson729

I will probably be running a single card layout but I am looking for fan speed controls and it comes down to which board is better for gaming.

This was already gone over, repeatedly, both here and in the thread I linked earlier.

Neither perform better with a single card setup, so why would you want to spend the extra +$219 for the superfluous extras of the RE III? Get the LE, put the extra to much better use on other parts.
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 1:43pm
yes, the Le will perform very well. The RE III is geared more towards pushing the limits of RAM/CPU GPU's. DS will not be doing that, and I doubt most people ever will.
 So if you are not going to be doing that, then you will never notice the the difference.  want 260+ B clocks? yes, Then  get the RE III. lol
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 2:20pm
Ok Le sounds good but what about usb 3.0 support since I will probably go with the HAF X case?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Benson729

Ok Le sounds good but what about usb 3.0 support since I will probably go with the HAF X case?

If you want USB 3.0 on the cheap, you can select a PCIe add on card. It's in the options directly under the video card selections.

Add-on Card: EVGA 2 Port SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Host Card (PCI-E Slot) [+$25]
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 2:41pm
Ok now I am reading in industry news that a new socket is coming and I found out that it might be available in early 2011 and christmas was the earliest I could afford to upgrade so I might just wait until DS gets the new socket gear.
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 2:49pm
Christmas? Gah. What a waste of time. After 4 months have gone by all prices will be drastically different and entirely different selections of parts will be available (or not longer available).

Computer tech is extremely fast moving, you can't configure something that far ahead of time dude.
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 2:56pm
Ok these are the things I did not know
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 3:00pm
new sockets, will have a lot of growing pains, the 1366 socket is very, very good right now 1156 als has the kinks worked out
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  Quote !ender_ Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 3:13pm
yea, buying tech on the bleeding edge like that is a good way to screw yourself pretty hard, not only will you pay wayyyyyyyyyy too much but you also get to be an involentary member of the "test group" who gets to crash, fry things, get dead boards, and have shadow errors for months while everything settles. if you must wait, wait and then buy 1366 as its price will liklely come down even further when the new tech is about to come out
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 5:24pm
Yeah, must wait but I definitely see your point my family has been in the "test group" for several cars in the last few years so I understand why buying new models can be dangerous.
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  Quote Benson729 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2010 at 5:29pm
If I get the EVGA Le board will it work with the two front usb 3.0 ports on the HAF X? Also does the expansion card only add ports to the back panel?
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cant do usb 3 on the front ports yet unless you route it from the pci usb3.0 in the back
so yes, only in the back unless you get some fancy, wierd looking wiring
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