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    Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 1:57am
I recently overclocked my CPU a bit higher to 3.55 and all seems stable. However my ATI 5870 when loading the driver on a reboot made a flicker that was annoying to me and their were a few other small bugs i didn't like.

I upped my PCIe frequency to 101 and things seem snappier at boot. Is this my imagination? Could this have helped things? Also, is this safe to stay at?

Also, I upped my ICH to 1.1.
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I run my PCIe higher than you want to know lol. over 120.. lol
 PCIe freq, and B clock are connected, feeling snappier going to 101, is most likely 100% blue pill. it takes more than that to show up on a bench, let alone see with the eye ball.
 
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Ok thanks Justin. I kinda figured. Do you think the ICH increase could have made things better? I don't know....after I made those changes the boot flicker has decreased and it no longer "blinks" at boot up.

also, have you loaded the 10.8 drivers yet. So far so good for me. BFBC2 looks the best it ever has for me.
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bumping the ICH to 1.1 is a minimum, they use to run them lower, but so many issues with HDD's, USB devices. ect. so 1.15V is about what I usually run. depending on how much crap is on the ICH, and also how much V droop, need to use a digital multi meter to test actual load voltage VS the BIOS voltage.
 
you are starting to see how AUTO settings are really a bad idea for a finely tuned machine Big%20Smile
are you running one 5870?
 
I have been used modded drivers, and have very good luck, especially with tri-fire scaling, stock drivers don't seem to scale nearly as well, on the games I have been playing lately.
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I have 1 5870. I moved my PCIe back to 100. However now I'm getting some weird blue screens when messing with my Aero desktop stuff and it seems to be a driver conflict?

Here are the crashes:
Crash dump directory: C:\Windows\Minidump

Crash dumps are enabled on your computer.


On Sat 8/28/2010 12:59:49 PM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: dxgmms1.sys
Bugcheck code: 0x119 (0x1, 0x940, 0xA21, 0xA20)
Error: VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\082810-15896-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\dxgmms1.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: DirectX Graphics MMS
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.



On Sat 8/28/2010 10:14:34 AM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: win32k.sys
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFF900C2EF2D80, 0x0, 0xFFFFF9600008B3A0, 0x0)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\082810-15412-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\win32k.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Multi-User Win32 Driver
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.



On Fri 8/27/2010 11:01:17 PM your computer crashed
This was likely caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe
Bugcheck code: 0x19 (0x3, 0xFFFFF900C2C67650, 0xFFFFF900C2C6764F, 0xFFFFF900C2C67650)
Error: BAD_POOL_HEADER
Dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\082710-22245-01.dmp
file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: NT Kernel & System
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect, possibly the culprit is in another driver on your system which cannot be identified at this time.

Anyways I think I'll get this all tweaked out in a bit. I just hate how my windows screen looks at boot. Kinda makes me think it's indicative of something not right with the card/system. Gaming is great but all the other small stuff hasn't been as good with this card. I am going to move my ICH a bit more and see how that goes (I know it isn't prolly the cause of the crashes but it might make some other crud work better).
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Posts: 5084 		  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2010 at 11:50am
If you want to try something different.
 
These work well, and are near fool proof, but you do have to follow the instructions to the T.
use build 3.95
use the modded INF. it will ask you at one point. lol
If you follow the instructions to the letter, these should fix your issues.
use the ATI sh*t cleaner, the optional steps, I would do, to be sure, especially the first time.
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Posts: 733 		  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2010 at 3:45pm
Thanks Justin. Looks like I got some reading to do, lol.
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Posts: 733 		  Quote AndydViking Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 29 Aug 2010 at 1:25pm
OK. Well I didn't do what it said lol but I think things are way better. I did in fact run the stability test and all seemed OK

Because 7zip didn't give me all the files I was very confused as to some of the directions at first. However, some of the cleaning methods I did employ (just did them manually). I think going in and getting rid of the windows basic gpu driver may have helped things a lot for me?

So what I did was to clean everything ATI/basic drivers and then I installed the 10.7's. Things seem so much more solid at boot. Stil a very small flicker at boot on the windows logo but I'm ok with that as long as it isn't meaning something else.

I do now have all the proper files and if anything appears to be unsound I'll revisit this. I would like to try these modified drivers however I don't wanna fix what ain't broke right now.

A question Justin:
*So this modified patch is for the 10.7's only? Or are you running modified 10.8's?

Thanks a lot though for pointing me there! Just the more thorough cleaning seemed to help things a ton! (I wonder if ATI tests on a clean install of windows or they test drivers more on a typical users environment)?

Edited by AndydViking - 29 Aug 2010 at 1:26pm
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