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    Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 7:58pm
I'm looking for some suggestions or comments, I can finally buy this awesome new computer. Pay check should be going through, so I can buy in the next day or two. (hopefully) Here's my config:
 
Copy of Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm Twister PRO (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 620W Corsair HX (SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) (High-Quality Unit)
Processor: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3.0GHz (Dual Core) (2 MB Cache) w/HyperTransport
Motherboard: Asus M2N-Plus SLI (Vista Edition) (nForce 5 series SLI Chipset)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 (Dual Channel) (Extreme-Performance)
Floppy / Media: Sony 1.44MB Floppy (Black Edition)
Hard Drive 1: 320GB (Western Digital / Seagate) (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Modem: - No Thanks
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB (By: eVGA / Asus) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE (Up to 7.1 Channel)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 (Silent Artic Cooling (TwisterBoost Overclocked)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Black Edition)
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 2)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Logitech Bluetooth MX5000 (MX 5000 Keyboard + MX 1000 Laser Mouse)
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
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Everything looks good except for the AMD CPU and nForce 5 motherboard. Why use AMD ??  Disapprove  unless you have a tight budget ??
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I do have a tight budget, and I don't think the Intel is that much better. I've even asked a lot of people and it seems like the AMD is as good or better than intel. Intel may have more Ghz, but I think the AMD can still do fine. I can't get a better motherboard than that, it was the only option.
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5 years ago AMD was better than intel.....but not anymore.  I understand that u are on a budget but intel is far and away a better processor (at least for the time being).  
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What is your budget? And any future upgrades
Pro case with extra fan
Quad Q6600 2.4 OC'd 3.1!
Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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Posts: 262 		  Quote commast Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 9:51pm

 AMD cpu is better than the Intel Pentium 4 but since the introduction of the Intel Dual Core, it's a different story. The Dual Core just destroy the best AMD cpu regardless of clock speed, but if you have a tight budget and don't care much about performance then stay with AMD. The AMD cpu can't touch the Intel dual core but it will be fine for normal use.
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Hey, you DS tech dudes, what would the performance difference be for the same price if he went with an Intel set up? Without busting his baseline budget?

I mean isn't this a pretty good rig? It might not run Crysis, but it would run CS Source and Halflife games. Not Hellgate but Call of Duty 4?

I mean what kind of games with what kind of performance? I am really curious!

Hey, don't let anybody get you down man, budget is important! Congratulations on making the most out of your paycheck!

PC gaming is expensive. You should rap with the DS techs by phone and let them kick around some configs with you. But if you are happy with your set up go for it!
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Posts: 298 		  Quote Clinton Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 10:52pm
Ya, I thought this rig was looking pretty good. =/ I don't know though, $200 more just for an intel quad core or duo... Seems like a lot.
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Posts: 501 		  Quote sundowner Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 11:13pm
Let us know your budget and we can figure out a few configs for you.
Pro case with extra fan
Quad Q6600 2.4 OC'd 3.1!
Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

xfire - xuntiltheendx
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If you drop that gaming mouse and keyboard, you have the $$$ for an E6750.
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Just another build idea (intel based)

Case: Digital Storm Twister PRO (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 620W Corsair HX (SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) (High-Quality Unit)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz (1333MHz Front Side Bus) (4MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i Core 2 Quad (By: eVGA) (nForce 680i SLI) (A1 Revision)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 (Dual Channel) (Extreme-Performance)
Floppy / Media: Sony 1.44MB Floppy (Black Edition)
Hard Drive 1: 320GB (Western Digital / Seagate) (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Modem: - No Thanks
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB (By: eVGA / Asus) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE (Up to 7.1 Channel)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 (Silent Artic Cooling (TwisterBoost Overclocked)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Black Edition)
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 2)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support


Total $ 1762.00
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Posts: 298 		  Quote Clinton Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Oct 2007 at 11:29pm
I'm thinking about spending $1900, $1950 max.
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With that budget you really don't need to worry about AMD vs Intel, also the build has a Quad processor so you won't have to upgrade for 2-3 years. It also doesn't have the lights/special wiring/floppy disk/mouse/keyboard. You could add the floppy since its only $4-5, but I would suggest getting the keyboard/mouse through newegg.
 
If you're going to be playing at low resolution you can go with a GTS 320 or 640 instead of the GTX.
 
I would wait another week or two until the 8800GT 512 is an option since it'll be the same price if not lower than the 320mb and alot closer in power to the GTX.
Pro case with extra fan
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Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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clinton, where do you live? (I only ask because of tax)

also, remember that if you save a build, a day later you will get a 5% discount... that gives you a little breathing room on tax/shipping or getting a little more added to your rig.. I looked at sundowners build and for that price you cant go wrong.
Silverstone TJ-10
INTEL 4790K
16 gigs ddr3
ssd and such
liquid cooled cpu
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Originally posted by ed1371

also, remember that if you save a build, a day later you will get a 5% discount...
 
say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
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Nvidia 8800GT
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ssshhhhh... its a secret!
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How about this built here :

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=90036

It cost around $1895, well below your budget and it has an Intel Quad core along with the Nvidia 680i motherboard. I substitute the Logitech bluetooth keyboard/mouse ( you don't want bluetooth anyway, usb works fine with less problems) with the MS keyboard/mouse. I would take out the keyboard/mouse combo since you can get them later if need to. DS doesn't offer as many choices as a retail store.
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the only time i ever got those discount things was with AMD configs...
 
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Nvidia 8800GT
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Originally posted by sundowner

the only time i ever got those discount things was with AMD configs...
 
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I got one on my build - I had to have it send the build info to my gmail account as my normal email never received any DSO emails.
Twister Pro
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Vanquish II
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I had the same problem with my Comast email but received the discount emails fine with my gmail account.
850W PSU/Pro Case
Q6600-G0 2.7GHz
nVidia 680i A1 Revision
4GB 800MHz XMS2
1x500 GB WD, 2x500GB WD RAID-1
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Never has any discount with my built Cry Save my config and placed the order a  few days later.Maybe I should have wait at least a week to see if i get a discount offer. This is so unfair Ouch


Edited by commast - 26 Oct 2007 at 1:46pm
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Well that stinks.....i am in stage 2 and I never received a 5% discount. A bit unfair if u ask me.
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Ok, what's better the quad @ 2.4Ghz or the Duo @3.0 Ghz, which is $3 less than the quad.
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The 3.0 duo will be at little faster than the 2.4 quad.  But as more and more games and apps starting taking advantage of multi core processors you will kick yourself down the road for not getting the 2.4 quad.  As the price is almost the same go with the quad core and u wont regret it in the future.  If u are concerned about speed chose the 680i A1 revision motherboard and stage 3 cooling with twister over clock and DSO should be able to over clock the quad processor to 3.0 . Hope that helps. 
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Yep! Thanks
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Originally posted by Clinton

Ok, what's better the quad @ 2.4Ghz or the Duo @3.0 Ghz, which is $3 less than the quad.
 
There are valid arguments on both sides of this question. I picked the E6850 to get better performance today. I'll worry about tomorrow when it gets here.... CPUs are pretty easy to replace.
 
You might be able to overclock a Q6600 up to 3 MHz, but I run the E6850 at 3.6 MHz. The Q6600 can't win that race.
 
Having said that, the only difference that I've detected between running at 3.0 and 3.6 MHz is the 20% increase in the benchmark results. I don't see any difference in gaming and certainly not in day to day applications. Well, I guess it might crank through MP3 and video encoding noticably faster....
 
Just like someday Vista will be the obvious OS choice, someday a Quad will be the obvious choice. Today, it's not so clear.
 
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I think this will be the build I get:
 
Copy of Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm Twister PRO (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 600W Thermaltake (SLI Compatible) (Silent PurePower Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i LT Core 2 Quad (By: eVGA) (nForce 680i SLI)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 (Dual Channel) (Extreme-Performance)
Floppy / Media: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 320GB (Western Digital / Seagate) (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Modem: - No Thanks
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB (By: eVGA / Asus) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy SE (Up to 7.1 Channel)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 (Silent Artic Cooling (TwisterBoost Overclocked)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows XP Home (Includes Service Pack 2)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support

That's going to be pushing it as far as the budget goes after tax is added. Cry

 



Edited by Clinton - 28 Oct 2007 at 1:31am
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Wait a few more days for the 8800GT 512 to be added to the choices, it should lower your cost and give you much better power.
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Nvidia 8800GT
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The 8800 GTS 320 and 8800 GT have the same price... some retailers will even sell the GT higher because of its awesome performance.
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At least until ATI enters the ballgame and keeps the pricing honest. November 19th should be an interesting day.
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I'm excited to see what ATI releases, and if they'll actually give Nvidia competition.
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Ya, I guess I'll wait a couple of days. What would be more beneficial the corsair 620watt power supply or the A1 motherboard? I have a little extra to spend.
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http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=90779
 
That should be relatively the same price with the new 8800GT instead of the GTS.
 
Still leaves you $200 for keyboard/mouse.
 
And the A1 would be the better choice so you can get a higher overclock, the PSU wouldn't be an issue unless you wanted to add a 2nd card.
 
 
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Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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Well I placed my order, after waiting 5 months. Now I have to wait. =/ I'm so excited!
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