Plz Advise: Dell U2711 >H-IPS or HP LP3065 >S-IPS?

Ok, so I'm buying a HAF X 942 Desktop, hopefully, by the end of this week and I'm faced with this difficult dilemma on my hands...
I need an absolutely the best 27-30" Computer Monitor for this tasks in such order:
1) FPS Gaming  2) BluRay & Home-Theater Movies Playback  3) PhotoshopCS5 & Maya Art Creation  4) Photos/Graphics Viewing
I'm very concerned about Input Lag and actual Screen Response time as well as quality of the IPS Panel and Image/Color reproduction because I'm coming from a Sony XBR 34" CRT TV as well as Pioneer Elite 50" PRO-111FD (12-bit) which I ♥ dearly.

So, I've done a little bit of research and found this two Monitors as pretty good choices IMHO as well as because of Justin.kerr's recommendations:
#1) 30" HP LP3065 (with S-IPS - Panel# LG-LM300WQ5 - Model# EZ320A8#ABA - Year# Updated in 2008) w/ 16.7million colors (Per-8bit?)
#2) 27" Dell U2711 (with H-IPS - Panel# LG-LM270WQ1 - Model# "UltraSharp" - Year# Q1 2010) w/ 1.07 billion colors (Per-10-bit) (12-bit int.proc.)

The thing is that I need this Monitor to be Professionally Calibrated or at least Calibrated with a Professional Color Meter Device, but I don't want to buy/do it myself thou.
I did find a pretty good website after Googling around a bit, that has most of the high quality monitors Pro-Calibrated and has those Calibrated ICC Profiles and Post Calibrated Monitor Settings given out to utilize in our own Monitors/GPU's/Color Profiles as Custom Presets, with Instructions on how to Install and Activate the ICC Profiles at the bottom of the page. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm
But herein lies my dilemma: Justin said HP LP3065 monitor probably is the right choice for me and a lot of reviews from other customers also were mostly positive, especially about its Gaming Performance. Now that site does NOT have this 30" HP LP3065's ICC Profile NOR a Review for it but it does have the 27" Dell U2711's ICC Profile, as well as the review for it: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2711.htm
There are many positives for this two monitors thou, but one big negative for each.
Such as: Dell U2711 having a ~28ms-30ms averaged Input Lag supposedly because it has a Scaler Chip and somehow it is slowing down the processing circuitry even with DVI-D's Native Res?!? Guhh!Thou the R.T.C. was fairly good thou as well as pretty much every other aspect of that monitor was a really good performer, it has a ton of inputs: DVI-D HDCP, Display Port, HDMI, VGA, Component, etc...
HP LP3065 on the other hand has NO Scaler Chip and only 3 DVI-Dual link inputs and nothing else, making even a possible converter/adapter cable for lets say HDMI to DVI not function at all because there is no converter chip build in! BUT this monitor does have a really good response time/ much smaller input lag and even thou it's a standard 8-bit panel it's still an S-IPS panel thou with what it seems like the fastest overall performance for FPS Games and Movies. Which leads me into asking you guys: How do I calibrate this damn thing with my complete lack of knowledge in that field. Would you guys recommend me that I schedule a Professional Calibrator to do it for me? ( I know this one guy who is a Pro at Video and Audio Home Theater Calibrations: Jeff Meier from AccuCal and I found him on AVSforum.com; but it's at least $300 w/ travel and he only goes around every 2-3 months on a calibration tour in USA. )
So I came up to a conclusion that I would have to make a little compromise and either go with Dell U2711 Monitor and try to tolerate the somewhat noticeable input lag (or so a heard) and even worse input lag when the converter is active for HDMI input (or so I read) BUT at least I would be able to have it Calibrated by myself to a really good degree ORRRRRRRRRR go with the HP LP3065 Monitor and use it right out of the box with whatever color shift contrast/ brightness it comes with, completely uncalibrated and even without an OSD (only means of calibrating it is with an Nvidia/Catalyst software suite through the GPU.

What do you guys think? Can someone please recommend me one of this two monitors or another completely different monitor in 27"-30 range, up to umm ~$1500(but I'm flexible if it's worth it for a bit higher) I would apreciate any helpful advice and suggestions or anything else that you guys think about my dilemma. Thank you guys in advance.

keep doing research.  lol

Hey in which thread to you guys discuss Overclocking ? :P

have you looked at NEC monitors?

Originally posted by teaiewold have you looked at NEC monitors?

Bump.

Can you guys please suggest a good Computer Desk for a DS Desktop or is anyone familiar with the 3 choices that I posted in my previous post.
Cause I don't know where to put my new setup guhh! Someone, please help!

Thanks ablahblah, I completely forgot to tell the type of desk I need... that L-Shaped corner Desk, unfortunately for me, ain't gonna work. (room too small).
I actually made an office from my 11'x10' extra room upstairs for just my computer stuff. So actually I just need a simple, sturdy Glass top and Metal frame desk "I" shaped, right along one of my walls but preferably with a wide keyboard tray for mice and keyboard. somewhere along this lines... ~50" width x 25-30" depth x any height. and i'll put my subwooofer one on floor side and DS Desktop on another floor side and Monitors hovering over the Desk on the Wall Mounts.
Any ideas on what to buy for this setup, guys?

EDIT: Well supposedly its all the same panel but i think one has No Scaler chip and another has extra inputs w/ scaler chip so therefore giving off extra input lag as it is not direct pass through i think but HP LP is the large 30" monitor thou and the other names are i think 24" and such. Sorry im not really sure about that thou, all i know is that HP LP line upgraded their monitors to the newer Samsung internal panels (S-IPS), there is sooooo many variables thou depending on what dot pitch you're comfortable with and what inputs you need (or just D-DVI ones) and also gaming wise(HDMI w/scaler or direct w/DVI), which is why i'm having such a hard time choosing my monitor setup.

EDIT 2: I think the best thing to do is either check it out from someone who already has it in person or hopefully have someone chime in on here and give both of us some more recommendations for monitors that they bought and used. (and desks :P)

EDIT3 3: Huh? Wait, I'm completely wrong, I was looking at the wrong HP models. Hold on I need to research it more now dammit! 
BTW, AblahBlah, what screen resolutions & panel sizes you're looking for, and what uses?

edit 4: Oh good idea! Then again, I might as well just have it custom build lmfao, for lots of $'s. :\

Edited by Memento Mori - 03 Aug 2010 at 4:08pm

Oh and that wall mounts that i bought are supposed to be really awesome and sturdy; also they have a Desk mount adapter (same arm just end part is the desk hook and bolt setup), but you have to get the one you need as they don't come with both pieces.

EDIT: Oh! Ablahblah, check out that youtube video of that Studio RTA Malibu desk, and look at that monitor mounts! they look freaking sexy as hell! and i have no idea who makes those beige mounts thou?! *shrugs shoulders*




Oops I put like 5 Edits into the previous post lol. So what Size, Resolution , and Uses you need for your next monitor?


Edited by Memento Mori - 03 Aug 2010 at 4:20pm

Oh tell me about it man, I was trying to return their DEFECTIVE/UNTESTED POS computer for over 2 months and couldn't!! Because their "Return Specialists Department" pff was having some BS glitch with telephone system that no one could reach them!!! I was soooo frustrated with all their lies and deceptions! Like come on lol...The only 1 department out of 40 that's 'aint working is the RETURN Department *facepalm* ?!!
   I really really hate them for all that they put me through with eventual C.C. Disputes and all of that BS!!!
But I just wish that they didn't make such awesome Monitors with all the little mods on the panels and pre-calibration out of the box settings and worst thing of all... They bought Alienware </3 :( 
Oh well ones i take a look at their monitors (delivery this Friday) I'll see if i should just return them and dump Delienware all together or try to tolerate them a little longer until Asus and ViewSonic and Samsung finally step up and release some unique panels (hopefully soon guhh!)

Tell you what man, you wait a little bit and I'll be the Guinea-Pig... 'cause I'll most likely going to purchase those new (Asus VG236 & PG276) just to test them out and return them lol as well as those (LG W2363D) panels and maybe even that one that Justin told me to get (HP LP3065).

But who knows it's just monitors lol if it works good enough and does all I need gaming wise, artwork wise, and movie wise then hell! I'll keep dem Dells LMAO!!!

Oh man!  I feel your pain bro! I'm currently typing on my 6 y/old Dell XPS Gen 4 which gave me nuuumerous... eeeendless hardware and software problems over the years.   And it has all the original parts Pentium 4 & 2gb 266ghz RAM ancient ATI GPU card and it sounds much MUCH louder then ANYTHING that D.S.O. can possibly build for me. .

But to tell you truthfully back when I lived near downtown Moscow, right on top of an Underground Substation and next to a huge multiple lanes intersection it all sounded like a mini earthquake happening all while a vuvuzela fleet was about to collide with eachother and start a WW3... errrrynight mind you!!!
Oh and the only person who had an internet connection let alone a computer in the whole apartment complex building was my lady friend, whose parents, worked at American equivalent of Customs Department and did confiscations of illegal properties and electronics (hence how they got the desktop in the first place lol *facepalm*).

Ah man I just realized how spoiled and needy we all are in this current generation!!
Oh boy, good ol' times, good ol' times aahh... haha ahh ehhh 

That's only a 1080p screen. At 32 inches, the pixel density has got to be incredibly low. Definitely not something you'd want sitting on your desk 2 feet in front of you

Edited by JJJJ_Shabadoo - 06 Aug 2010 at 3:23pm

blagh, somewhat hijacking the topic, but has anyone here had any experience with HP's ZR series IPS monitors? didn't see Mori getting one of the HP ones, and they're pretty well priced for me, so I'm trying to look into them.

Hey speaking of stuffing in all of the Home Theater System with the Desktop Setup into one room...

If I hear a low Db, but high pitched, noises from my electronics and low pitched buzzing noise from my Subwoofer when its not in use(standby)... does that mean I need a good quality Home Theater Power Conditioner and/or Voltage Regulator?

FYI: I just bought a Panamax M5400-PM ($529 @ Abt) ....... BUT only for my new DS Desktop NOT for my expensive Home Theater System thou... do I or do I not need another one like it or similar to it (this office room's Circuit Breaker is 20-AMPs btw)

And I'm not talking about a UPS Battery Backup (not yet thou :P not for now lol) which is a separate thing all together.

PS: Where is your new thread Ablahblah? Oh nvm, once you set it up, link me to it!


Edited by Memento Mori - 14 Aug 2010 at 6:36pm

Oh man! I had the same problem too! It is basically when my Logitech Squeezebox craps out on me, I unplug it from the back if it but leave the power adapter plugged in to the wall outlet, and in 5 mins or so........ it starts making this same awful noise! And my controller for 360 charger does that same thing too guh!
Hence why I wonder if I filter my line and put the expensive as hell Power Box, would it eliminate it all together or not hmmm... I'm starting to think no as it must be the stupid chargers themselves.

But my subwoofer's low and deep buzzing noise (on standby must be a different issue because its NOT designed to be plugged into a simple surge protector line, it seems like.


Edited by Memento Mori - 14 Aug 2010 at 8:48pm

Well coincidentally I'm also moving out of my old room into a new room in my house and made the old room with all those noisy electronics my Office. ^_^

All I can say is that I suggest charging your cell somewhere far away from your bedroom lol.

Hey Cooganm!
Sorry, buddy, I've been really busy with moving to different rooms and everything, my D.S. Desktop has not arrived yet but its gonna be here on or around August 23rd, Monday. (I've bought it on July30th btw... it got delayed 'cause I made multiple modifications to it. cost me $45_fee+$333_mods extra.)

I'm currently testing and calibrating this Dell U2711b (A01 - June 2010 Mfg Date) on my Old Desktop and surprisingly it has zero dead pixels and zero stuck/bright pixels. Color uniformity seems perfect when showing single colors, one at a time on this screen. So, so far so good.

But this screen seems to have that Wide Gamut universal problem, as it seems to be Pinkish White @ Bottom Left and Bluish White @ Top Right. But it's barely noticeable and only seen on pure white background, so it's not a problem for me at all. Also its of note that I'm utilizing OLD ATI drivers like from 2006 it think, and I would have Nvidia v258.96+ 3D drivers ones the rig arrives. So maybe I'd calibrate with a custom ICC profile and through the GPU or just through the Dell panel menu, we'll see.

Also the colors look amazingly beautiful cause it's an H-IPS panel compared to my TN panel that I currently utilize. No visible cathode bleeding, color bleeding (or whatever it's called when the screen is showing fully black image and in some areas lamp light bleeds through) so it has no visible light leakage in my dark room. I do notice that blacks/deep black shades are not as inky and I can differentiate the Panel itself from the edges of the black image on the screen, unlike my Pioneer Plasma for which I could not tell where the screen ends and where the black panel starts.

NOTE: Okay now I would need to test: Input Lag, Pixel Response Time, and RTC (Overdrive) once I actually get my DS Rig and set it up, so please allow me some more time till it's delivered and all set up.

What I would do for now is at least test it out on my Xbox 360 through HDMI to this panel, which it should still show me how laggy and delayed this Dell panel really is because Xbox360 games run at around fixed 30-60fps So I hope I can get a good idea on how the Scaler Chip would perform when converting from 2560x1440 native res to 1080P/720P/1080i.

Okay, I'm also gonna test the Alienware A2310 and calibrate it soon.

Gush I've been so busy with work and family for the past couple of weeks, hey as soon as I get it all set up together I'll post here right away, so just hang on, Cooganm.

I dunno thou,  something tells me this Dell screen ain't gonna be good enough for twitch fast FPS's. Cause I can already tell that the screen is tearing up under fast motion when moving cursor and windows around as well as in some videos, but who knows maybe its just my old PC or maybe its this panel. So the Alienware Optix better be good enough for me or else I'll be very very very disappointed.

Oh! also, in the future, if you accidentally lock the screen menu then just hold the 1st proximity touch button for ~15 seconds so it would unlock. Cause I thought it would lock the screen from disappearing for calibration but instead it locked me out of the menu lol. So no biggie, just hold that button until it Unlocks.

NOTE: I'll Most likely post my Dell/Alienware Panels' reviews with my Digital Storm Rig Review.

So ones again forgive me for the delays, it's been a crazy busy month so far for me.

EDIT:Oh just remember! If something is defective with the panel you'll need to return it ASAP to Dell as you only would have 21 days from The Shipping Label Date to have dell authorize a return or replacement, and make sure to always tell them it's defective or else they'd charge you 15% restocking fee (dead pixels is a defect too but just make em know that it's severe if you really do notice the deformities or something).



Edited by Memento Mori - 19 Aug 2010 at 4:11pm

Originally posted by Memento Mori Gush I've been so busy with work and family for the past couple of weeks, hey as soon as I get it all set up together I'll post here right away, so just hang on, Cooganm.