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dcribbie
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Topic: Possible Computer Specs. Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:02am |
I have come up with what I think is a pretty good computer that I plan to use for a wide range of applications. I currently use my computer to record/watch tv, play video games, business documents, research, and graphic design software (prioritized in that order) The config I have is 414273 here on Digital Storm. I feel that what I have is pretty good but was looking to get some outside input. My biggest concern is the motherboard, I know very little about motherboards because that is one of the only items I have not purchased seperately from a computer in the past. Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:07am |
Ok first thing about motherboards is always go with Evga. They are always the best and have amazing prices. Next thing is what's your budget and resolution?
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:12am |
1024x768, I have been trying to keep it under $3000, I willing to spend a little more if it means that the computer will be able to keep up with upgrades though. My current computer is a dell xps which is still fast but the graphics card can't be expanded beyond what I have already done.
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:13am |
Ok I just reconfigured it for you. First the 1.5 tb's are not as good as the 1 tb's. Second the cooler isn't good at all, you're gonna wanna get the Noctua NH-D14 as it is the top of the line for air coolers. Despite what you said you got the right motherboard as the 3xSLI doesn't fit with the Evga normal motherboard. Your video card could be better, so I put the 480. Your chassis was too big and overpriced. It's better to spend less money on a chassis and more money on parts. And lastly do you really need 2 CD Drives??
Click Here to see configuration Edited by Bullseye - 13 Jun 2010 at 10:13am |
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:16am |
Ok just saw your post and was wondering if you were willing to get a new monitor or not. It is not necessary but there is a 28 inch 1900X1200 Hanns-G for 320 dollars.
Edited by Bullseye - 13 Jun 2010 at 10:16am |
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:27am |
so in terms of noise with the air cooler, I had been looking torward the liquid in hopes of minimizing fan noise. I like having 2 cd drives, I tend to leave one open for inserting games in and out and the other I leave a game that I tend to be playing frequently in. (I know I could save a little without it but I would rather keep it). I like the idea of increasing the video card capabilities. I may end up buying that monitor it does look like a great deal thanks for the heads up on that.
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:32am |
That air cooler is incredibly quiet and one of the most recommended on the market, it's a top of the line cooler. It will also do better cooling than a bad LC setup. Here is a section of an article from Noctua:
Excellent component cooling Hanging out at the bottom of the fin-stacks, the NF-P14 fan doesn’t only contribute to the NH-D14’s superb CPU cooling capabilities but also provides massive airflow over surrounding motherboard components and heatsinks, thus ensuring excellent component cooling performance. |
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:52am |
Ok great thanks for that info, one final question how many hard drives is that HAF X case able to handle, The only reason I ask is I am planning on carrying over 2 hard drives from my current system to the new system which will make a total of 4 hard drives.
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 10:57am |
From the pics on Coolermaster it looks like 4
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:07am |
ok thanks for all your help
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:08am |
When do you plan on ordering it?
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:15am |
possibly today I am waiting on a couple of things, for one I gotta go to the local gun shop and find out how much the gun I have been looking at is going to be able to haggled down to then I will know if it will be this week or next week
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:18am |
Ok James Bond! Just make sure to put up a review
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:38am |
bullseye do you own a DS computer right now?
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:40am |
not yet, I have to wait till my exams finish and my grades get back because my dad doesn't want me to get hooked and mess up my finals
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:44am |
oh jees you're still in school, wish I had known more about computers back in high school, Had a 2GB Packard Bell Back then, had a hard time playing doom 2 on it
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 11:55am |
EVGA's usually the way to go with mobo's IF you're overclocking, otherwise, meh, who cares lol.
OH, and one thing. If you're gaming AND your doing graphics design, you're gonna have to make a choice. nVidia GeForce cards makes insane cards for playing games, however, they suck at rendering. nVidia FX series cards, found in the Workstation section of DS, are super freaking powerful at rendering, but aren't as good for gaming. So your gonna have to make a choice. Having a GTX480 won't match anywhere near what a FX series card does. A GTX480 has a ton of "stream" processors, which render game graphics, shaders, etc. with each other. A FX card has a lot of CUDA processors, acting similarly to how your computer works. They work in parallel, so it's essentially a "super computer", and it excels in rendering. Rendering game graphics, eh, not top of the line. Which one's more important to you, gaming, or rendering? And are you playing a low impact game, or a high end game? For COOLING, heh, the fan noise all depends on the fan! I have a venomous X cooler, it's huge, runs a solo fan. Cooled my CPU down 20C from stock, and i can barely hear it. If the fan's too loud, there's actually a really simple fan mod you can to do bump it down from 12v to 7v, or 5v, which slows the fan down, but reduces noise. HAF X supports 7 hard drives, 5 internal racks, two hot swap. Alternatively, you can remove the two hot swap racks, and gain two 5 1/4" bays. Honestly, screw the HAF X, go with the HAF 932 if you really want airflow. The HAF X should really only be considered if your putting in a 4x SLI. Alternatively, the Raven 1 or the Assassin are also pretty good cases, with quiet and effective airflow. Two 1TB hard drives? Why not just go with one 2TB hard drive and stuff in a nice SSD for boot? o.o it'll cost a little more, but it'll perform a helluva lot better. Swap out the TV Tuner for a PCI-E variant, internal cards are usually more reliable and they look better than a USB stick jutting out anyways NO MORE FINALS FOR ME! WOOOOO ahh, crap, wait, I still have those regents tests -_- I have geometry exploding out of my head now, lol Still under $3k http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=414274 Edited by ablahblah - 13 Jun 2010 at 12:11pm |
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 12:26pm |
I only dabble in graphic design work once or twice a month for friends and the company I work for so in general the gaming is going to take priority in that area. As for the TV Tuner, I totally agree that I want it to be a PCI-E version, any suggestions for which one to go with. In terms of SSDs I know what they are but am not too clear on what the benefits of installing one would be, also earlier Bullseye had said that the 1.5 TB was not as good as the 1 TB is that the case in for the 2 TB as well? any info in regards to those I'd appreciate |
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 12:27pm |
OOOOh so lucky! I have math 2moro and History the day after!!!
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 12:54pm |
1.5 is probably because it's made by Seagate. Seagate's a good company, only thing is, they have a pretty long standing rep for failing drives. WD, however, is just awesome.
The PCI-E tuner is available for selection in the customizer, I put it in the configuration that I posted. A SSD is different from a standard HDD because instead of having spinning platters that it reads data from, it's just a stack of memory chips. Think of it like a massive flash drive. It reads a lot faster, and it saves power too because it doesn't have any moving parts. SSD sizes are limited however, but using them as a boot and program drive is an awesome purpose. So, basically, the best configuration is having a SSD to put Windows and your programs on, while having another high capacity HDD to keep all your data. Hence, 64GB SSD and a 2TB HDD. (Oh, and I did upgrade the motherboard to a X58 FTW3. Adds in a third PCI-E slot for expandability.) Edited by ablahblah - 13 Jun 2010 at 12:56pm |
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R4D4RPR00F
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:03pm |
cool thanks any particular ssd manufacturer you would recommend?
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:06pm |
intel has pretty much the best read rate out of most SATAII ssds now, though its write rate sucks. it IS one of the cheapest, but only comes in 40, 80, and 160GB versions. other manufacturers produce drives with better write rates, but worser read rates.
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R4D4RPR00F
Core i7 920 @ 3.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X58 EVGA GTX 570 Mushkin 6GB 1414Mhz |
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:12pm |
Ok thanks everyone for your assistance. Here is what I think will be my final build, I think going with the SSD will just push me a little over budget so that may be an upgrade down the road. Any further input?
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:31pm |
Yo dude I thought we agreed to go with the 930 at 2.8GHz. Why did you put the Hailstorm over the HAF X. The HAF is great! If you do those things then you can get the 80gb SSD. And remember the Sound Card is NOT necessary. Don't sacrifice a SSD over it!
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:35pm |
Here you go Click here to see build (Price is 2916)
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:45pm |
Well I looked at the SSD and the 2 different CPUs and I personally think that the faster CPU would be more important than an SSD seeing that the SSD would be easier to upgrade to down the road. I am still open to going the other way and purchasing the SSD and opting for the slower CPU if I can have some feedback in that regard |
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:50pm |
You can always over clock a CPU. It would be way better to get a SSD
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:53pm |
i7 920 = i7 930, i7 960, i7 965, etc.
they're all the same chip. just different standard clock speed. same chip. |
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Bullseye
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:58pm |
Some people in the forums have OC'd their 920's to 4.4!
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 1:59pm |
ask anyone , they'll all say that 920s, 930s, 960s, etc. all OC the same
there, just under $3k. only thing is that I had to sacrifice 64MB of cache. however, if you don't need the extra PCI-E slot on the X58 FTW3, then you can go with the LE, save some money, and pop in the 64MB cache 2TB hard drive. http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=414328 note the "notes" section, I put that WD hard drives are preferred OH BY THE WAY. You ARE aware of the GTX 480's power consumption, right? A ATI 5870 will perform nearly the same, but with less power usage. Which is why for up-to-date graphics, I'm actually siding with ATI now. Edited by ablahblah - 13 Jun 2010 at 2:03pm |
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 2:03pm |
ok that looks awesome, one final question (I hope) is the Noctua NH-D14 compatible with the Motherboard (EVGA w/3 SLI)? it says something about it not being compatible but I'm not sure
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 2:04pm |
standard 3x SLI, no, which is why I had to put the X58 FTW3. the X58 LE would work too, and save some money, but you'd lose an extra PCI-E port if you ever wanted to expand on it later on.
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dcribbie
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 2:06pm |
ok yeah i am willing to spend a little more for the extra slot, thanks
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 2:06pm |
ATI Sys, a bit cheaper, near same performance. ATI's 5870 is on par with the GTX 480 most of the way, but doesn't offer as good tesellation in games. However, everything is pretty much on par, and doesn't eat up as much power.
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ablahblah
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2010 at 2:11pm |
putting in a 2TB 64MB cache hard drive with the ATI system would bring it $50 over $3k
i dont really think a bit more cache matters though, lol, after 32MB, no one really cares |
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