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    Posted: 27 Jun 2009 at 2:20pm
Hello. This is my first time buying a computer, and I need some help.
It seems like the prebuild Power and Value that is offered at 1808 dollars is exactly what I am looking for. I have a budget of around 1800-2200 dollars, and this seems to be perfect. However, due to my aforementioned inexperience with regards to computers, my own feelings seem to be largely inadequate in assuaging my own fears about buying a high quality computer that will last me for several years in playing the latest games. I would much appreciate your expert advice.

Thank you in advance.
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what is the resolution you gonna be gaming at?

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Well, I am buying a 1080p computer monitor, so somewhere between 720-1080p
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for 1080P you might need 2 GPUs to run games at high settings.

I can config a system for you for about $1900 with 2 GPUs but if you have your heart set on the power and value then go for it, DS has some great systems, prebuild or not

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Sure that would be great. 
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Ok looks like I made a mistake, for 1900 its with one gpu but in a few month you can drop another 275 in there easy and for cheaper then getting 2 right now, however I'm posting 2 builds, one with 1 gpu and one with 2 gpus so you can see the difference:

Here you go Ticket# 300338 --- Price: $2107 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $1907

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W PC Power & Cooling (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silencer Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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Here you go Ticket# 300339 --- Price: $2406 (To see this build click here) Price after current promotion $2206

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1333MHz Digital Storm Certified by mushkin enhanced (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W PC Power & Cooling (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silencer Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 896MB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-U12P High Performance Cooler (Compatible With ONLY i7 Processors)
Liquid Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a H20: Stage 3 Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Red)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) With Windows 7 Upgrade Coupon
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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to be honest with you, I would go with the single build and then if you need a second one, just order it from newegg it will be cheaper. Right now they have a special where you can get it for $209.99

Edited by DST4ME - 27 Jun 2009 at 6:05pm

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What if I bought the prebuilt model (it seems to be pretty much the same as your builds except about 200 dollars cheaper), and later, I added in another card?
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you can do that also, however I'm not sure what mobo the power and saving is using and also a 285 2GB cost a lot more then a 275 but the difference in performance is like 4 fps and not worth the price.

in short the $200 you are saving now, you will spend more then that to get a second 285.

so lets look: my config with 1 x 275 = $1907 now later you add another 275 for $229 and that comes out to $2136

now the prebuild is $1707 with 1 x 285, you go to add another 285 2GB for $402, and that comes out to = $2116

also you will be pushing your psu to run 2 x 285 2G version while the psu can easily run 2 x 275 gtx.

its upto you. but the x58 LE that I picked for you, is gonna be better mobo then the one in prebuild.


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Then what mobo are they using DST? I don't recall getting a concrete answer on that anywhere.. i rather assumed it was the LE.
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na its not the LE otherwise they would have said, I think its a mobo with 2 pci slots. I think its the MSI X58M

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Yeah I heard someone else mention the MSI one.  
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They are showing an XFX X58 motherboard in the configurator now. Could be that one?
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no it not

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It could be the Intel X58.
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somebody has one and they posted that it was the msi x58

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Originally posted by DST4ME

for 1080P you might need 2 GPUs to run games at high settings.

 
DST4Me, is that what you really meant to say? I don't know squat about HDTV, but it that indicates 1080 scan lines, that seems like a relatively low resolution by computer standards. One GTX 260 or certainly one GTX 275 would do the trick. What am I missing?
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1080 vertical, he still has 1920 horizontal, if he was at 1600 then yes a 260 or better yet a 275 would run things at high settings, personally I don't even recommend playing games on HDTV

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Originally posted by DST4ME

1080 vertical, he still has 1920 horizontal,
 
I never realized HDTV's horizontal resolution was that high. Ah, but I see that makes sense with 16:9 aspect ratio. Lamp
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HDTV is 1920 x 1080 unless I'm mistaken, if I am somebody correct me please, I'm not that great with monitors.

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