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    Posted: 12 Oct 2007 at 9:07pm
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chose xp pro because the design software definitely works with this OS and realize that moving to Vista will be a reality.
 
can someone enlighten me about "network card" on the MB? we have a wireless network set at home so I am thinking about the Linksys option that is offered but don't fancy a more expensive card w/ a large antenna over getting a Linksys wga54g pci card(wonder if DSO could put that in while in bulilding stage?)
 
any pro's and/or con's will be appreciated.
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The A1 motherboard has 2 built-in Gigabit Ethernet ports so you don't need to add a network card, unless you want to go wireless. All wireless desktop NIC will have an antenna sticking out and that's unavoidable. It's roughly 3" in length. Unless you have a N Router i would go with the G card instead. To get the best N speed you need to match your NIC with the Router---Same brand. It would better if you use the Ethernet port instead of the wireless since it's already built-in and ethernet will always be faster and more reliable. Just Plug and Play.


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Can't see anything wrong except I'd consider having Vista on one drive and XP on the other.
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The only thing I might suggest, is that a RAID 0 configuration, say 2*160GB @ 7,200 RPM is quieter, faster and cheaper than a single Raptor @10,000 RPM ($130 vs $240).  With the money saved, you could buy a couple of nice new titles for your rig, or spring for the dual OS. Changed or not, that's a heck of a nice rig.
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Commast....You're absolutely on the ball. I know about the antenna because i put wireless card in my daughter's desktop. unfortunately cannot run a Cat5 wire from router to where DSO comp. will be located. Don't need an N protocol just yet cause the G stuff is working well. Thanks for your comments.
 
Tyler...Interesting configuration on the hard drive(s). So you are saying the 2 160G drives in Raid 0 will actually be speedier than a 150G raptor?
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well this is coming from a guy who has 3 raptors in his system, I say going with a raptor is always icing on the cake :)
You could always go with a 150 Raptor dual booting XP/Vista in 2 partitions, then use a 500GB hdd for everything else.
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Posts: 56 		  Quote georges326 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2007 at 1:53am
You know it's hard to hard to come to decisions when so many good and knowlegable people give great advice. Gonna do alot of thinking on what to come up with.  Thanks again.Sundowner...good idea!
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Here's an article about cheap RAID setups vs a western digital Raptor drive. Note that access times are still better with the Raptor, but in nearly every other aspect, the pair of 7200 RPM drives beats the single Raptor. The article at Tom's Hardware is entitled "Cheap RAID Ravages WD Raptor".

Kelly's system kicks butt BTW, and no one is going to argue that a Raptor isn't fast. It's blazing fast, and they are even faster in pairs. It's up to you to decide if sacrificing in terms of the size and price of your fast storage device is worth the relatively small gains to be had.


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The config. georges326 is talking about will be for me. You guys have all given great information thank you! About the 10K Raptor though, i heard they can get a little noisy. The cpu will be right on the desk next to me and i really dont want this baby to be noo loud. Idk does anyone know if the noise of the raptors are something to be too concerned with? Or should I opt for the Raid 0 setup?

Also I was considering moving to the PC Power and Cooling. Anyone think that would be a good choice since I want to OC?

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I really don't understand some people's idea of noisy.
 
Seriously... they're hard drives.  They're inside a case.  The computer's Power Supply is louder than any noise these raptors make. 
So when people say they're noisey, what are you comparing it too?  Absolute silence?
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Demonshaft, to answer your question... no, it isn't anything to be concerned with.  The loudest aspect of your pc is the powersupply and the case fans.
 
And the choice of your psu doesn't really play an integral role of overclocking.  as long as you have an adequate PSU (750 or more) you'll be fine
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If you play with the sound on in games, it's unlikely that the noise the drives make will bother you.

BTW Kelly, thanks for the moral support on the wait time. I'm going to stick it out and get what I really want. You were right, another couple of weeks isn't going to kill me, there's no reason to settle for less than 100% satisfaction. Wink

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good choice :)  And you're welcome!  That's what we are here for!
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Originally posted by Demonshaft

The config. georges326 is talking about will be for me. You guys have all given great information thank you! About the 10K Raptor though, i heard they can get a little noisy. The cpu will be right on the desk next to me and i really dont want this baby to be noo loud. Idk does anyone know if the noise of the raptors are something to be too concerned with? Or should I opt for the Raid 0 setup?

Also I was considering moving to the PC Power and Cooling. Anyone think that would be a good choice since I want to OC?

Thanks Everyone!


Your system is not going to be quiet and if you don't want to have more noise do not go with the Raptor (10,000rpm vs 7200rpm). The 2 HDD in RAID 0 will be cheaper, faster and have more capacity than a single Raptor. There's an article in Maximum PC and the Raid 0 beat the Raptor in every single tests except for the burst speed (the least important). Look below. Going with the PC Power&Cooling PS is also a great choice, it's a much better PS than the Thermaltake. The Thermaltake is not bad but it's just not in the same class with the PC Power&Cooling. As far as OC , it's a good idea to let DS do it for you--less headaches.






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Awesome thanks for the advice guys, I think ill probably change to the PC Power and Cooling PSU and go with the Raid 0 setup. The noise thing I was just more curious than anything. Like Kelly said, people seem to be overly concered about noise hand how the 10K RPM drives are so noisy, but I just wanted to get a phew opinions. Lol I dont expect my comp to be anywhere near quiet. I wouldnt mind either one really, it would be cool to use that money saved to do a dual boot like some of ya have suggested.
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