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AlteredArmF05
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Topic: problems with order looking at new configs.Posted: 17 May 2011 at 10:55pm |
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About a week and half ago I ordered this config.
However the person who paid for it, was told this week that most of the hardware in this config is on backorder. Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922 Blue Advanced (Side Window & Blue LED Fans) Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) (Great Value) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: FREE: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: Please Prioritize: Ship Within Four Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty So i have questions about other configs I need to know about. 1st. What if any difference is there(if any) between a gtx 550 ti, and a gtx 550 PCI 1556MB? 2nd. We were told by another company that the P8P67-M is not a micro, but I can't seem to find one via google that doesn't say micro. Whats the truth and what are the pro's and con's of the P8P67-M? 3. What is the difference or benefit of getting Windows 7 OEM vs normal? 4. Do all current gen graphics cards have Physx included? I see it listed on the digitalstorm ones but not in other places. 5. Is the Antec 902 stock a decent case for gaming? 6. Does ram really matter? I had my heart set on Corsair Dominator ram, but this other build we are looking at just lists 2x4gb ram. No indicators of brand, and only I'm guessing 2 sticks. Ok so the problem is this: We needed the new pc by this coming weekend. The person paying for it wants it sent to their home first(not in the same state I live in) Because of this, if the new pc doesn't arrive by friday, then it will be at best fall or even christmas before I even see the PC. So, the person paying for it is considering buying a similar config from another company. I'm not totally sold on the config the other company is trying to sell us, and of course the sales persons claim that the p8p67 is not a microATX when I cannot find evidence that its not has me even more fuzzy. So i don't know what to do. Buy now from ----------- and have a pc when we needed it, or Still buy from DSO, and while the person paying for it could get it within a month, they won't be able to travel to where I live for at least 6 months, maybe more. Thanks for any and all help guys. Edited by Alex - 18 May 2011 at 2:01pm |
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zangetsu
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 12:08am |
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You're implying DigitalStorm didnt meet your deadline.. then you say you're going to buy from a diff website, when you're already almost passed your deadline? Since you already ordered, paid, why not just wait it out? Back order for those parts probably wont be long to get...
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DST4ME
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 1:48am |
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That config needs to be changed to be better, right now IMHO its a mess.
tell me what res you gonna be gaming at and if you want sli ability, right now going sli on that config is not a great idea. 1. where do you see 550 gtx 1556? 2. This is why you should be careful where you buy and not just any site will do: Read about UATX/MircroATX here, just the first paragraph should do for our purpose here. the p8p67-M is a UATX form factor, this means its a small motherboard aka mirco mobo. look at the bottom of the mobo's specification at Asus and you will see this:
you can look at it here yourself 3. oem is cheaper. 4. yes, but not all games use it. 5. 922/932/942 are better IMHO. 6. it does matter but here we go with the DS brand, cause their is good enough to not notice a difference. As to what to do: A. I would not buy a pc from a builder that does not know simple things like "m" in mobos means Micro, everybody knows that. B. The only way the buyer is getting a pc built/tested/shipped to him by this Friday is if he is getting a lemon or there is no shipping involved and the building starts 8 am sharp tomorrow. it takes time to do a good build and then testing to make sure it all works well takes a day or two, then there is shipping. The buyer needs to decide if they want a quality pc or they want a lemon but it will be there by friday. and as I said your config can be made much better and possibly cheaper, let me know if you want sli ability or not, just fyi, sli ability lands your around $2100. Edited by DST4ME - 18 May 2011 at 1:49am |
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AlteredArmF05
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 2:51am |
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ok sorry to not be more clear.
I am interested in waiting for DSO, but it's not my money thats paying for it, So I have to weigh my desire with going with DSO over the struggle I will likely go through trying to change the mind of the person paying. I didn't mean to make it sound like I ordered the pc this week and am upset DSO wouldn't have it ready by Friday. so we went with a different company. The fact is We ordered this PC on May 9th with the extra money paid for the 4 day shipping. As of the 11th we had reached stage 6 (which we were told was the stage where the parts were approved and the order is ready for final processing and payment) then silence until the 16th, when we were informed most of the parts where on backorder for at least 2 weeks. the 5 day period between being told we were at the stage where everything was approved by the parts and tech department and then being told most of it was in back order should be enough for anyone to understand if I had a somewhat put off tone, my apologies. also we didnt just jump over to a new company, Evidently the other company's HQ is based in the town where the person paying for the computer lives, and they have physical locations there. onto DST4ME's questions 1. gtx 550 1556 was the card ---------- listed, I had never heard of the 550 ti typed out like that so I started wondering if it was something different. 2. Yeah evidentially the company is based out of the city the person paying is from, supposedly they are pretty big over there. I would like to be running SLI at some point...though a neighbor keeps insisting that SLI is a complete waste of time unless I am running dual monitors. 4. I am guessing that ---------------- claim that they offer Lifetime defective parts replacements by default and that the company evidently has repair and sales locations also in my own city, were also points of attraction for the person paying for it. Now -------------- build is roughly $2600, a similar build on DSO was only $1500 if the person buying the new pc is willing to go upto $2600 though, I have redone my build to this: 544451 Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922 Blue Advanced (Side Window & Blue LED Fans) Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance) Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (240mm Radiator) (High-Performance Edition) H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: McAfee Internet Security 2011 (Virus, Spyware , Spam, Phishing, Firewall, Online Backup Protection) Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set Keyboard: Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 6 Year Limited Warranty Would like SLI in the future, but don't need it right now. Current monitor max res 1680x1050 i think. but would like to think I would be getting a newer monitor in the next year or two(probably wouldn't ever play anything on anything higher than a low 2000sx? wide resolution though) I know of the concerns of the Asetek cooling system I have listed, and thats open to change. Case is open for change but I would highly prefer not to have the size and weight of a Full tower.(already pushing it with the 922 being bigger than standard half towers) I think thats everything. Thanks for the help. Edited by Alex - 18 May 2011 at 2:01pm |
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 4:52am |
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1. the ti is in the name of all 550 gtx, the way you listed it made me think it has 1556mb of ram, but now I see the 1556 is the model number for evga, so its just a 550 evga card, in short both are the same card.
2. even if they are there, its still not enough time to properly build and test a pc, if they are good company, they should be busy somewhat, if they are not busy that is a red flag to me. 3. sli is good depending on your res and the games you play, for example games like metro, you need sli, also it all depends on the settings, some games at highest settings and high aa need sli to have 60 min fps. 4. life time defective part replacement, does not mean if anything breaks down for the life of the pc, they will replace it, be careful how you read that. Your config can't do sli. if you want sli in a mid tower then: Here you go Ticket# 544509 --- $2688 (To see this build click here) Copy of Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922 Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core) Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB (Includes PhysX Technology) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (Green) Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Install/Test Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set Keyboard: Logitech G13 Programmable Gameboard Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 5 Year Limited Warranty Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the side, so you endup with 3 x 200mm fans: haf 200mm non led fan there is a blue version of these fans, if you want you can ask all 3 fans to be the blue led 200mm: haf 200mm blue led fan |
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 5:30am |
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for the graphics card, thats why I am confused, the order form for ----------- config lists the graphics card exactly as follows:
Geforce GTX 550 PCI 1556MB DDR5 You can probably see why I am confused, 1st no mention of the Ti, second its listed as PCI not PCI-Express, third it says its 1556MB, and lastly it lists it as DDR5, I haven't seen(that I can remember) any gtx 550 ti listings from anywhere else that lists it like that, even remotely. I'm guessing by the build you listed it was the 750w PSU that would have kept me from SLIing the 570? The stage 1 Noctua dual 120mm will be enough for overclocking the 2600k to 4.0-4.4? I don't really understand the purpose/benefit of SSD, never had a computer with more than 1 harddrive before either. Is that really needed? or just something that is preferred but not really mandatory? That extra side fan is going to be needed if I do go SLI in the future? Would rather not pay the extra cost of replacing all the red led with blue, when I can just get the 922 blue advanced, but if the side fan is a must, I understand why you listed the original 922 instead. Thanks for your continued help DST4ME. Edited by Alex - 18 May 2011 at 2:01pm |
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 5:55am |
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Yes it was the 750w.
stage 2 lc is not a real lc, their performance is the same as good air coolers like the Noctua NH-U12P and Noctua D14. a Noctua NH-U12P will easily do 4.4GHz oc, with good temps and quietly. ssd is faster in every way, it helps read/write/seektime, without it you can get bottlenecks here and there in performance of the overall pc. it also loads everything faster, you know how you have to wait for load time for games, those are reduced to almost nothing. your search/scan/etc time are much faster. Most of our use is in 4k file size, ssd kills bunch of hdds raid together in this speed. Os drive tends to die faster, due to being used more then other drives, for this reason, you want to backup your os drive, best way is to clone it, and if your drive is full of stuff and big, it will take a long time to clone, to keep the os drive light and quick and easy to manage (scan/search/etc), you only put the os/apps/games on the os drive, this way everything gets backed up and things that benefit from speed will be on the faster drive, things that just sit (files) can be stored on a slower bigger drive for storage, speed here is not that important since this is storage. so in short hdds setup should be like this: HDD1 = fast small drive: os/apps/games HDD2 = regular large drive: media/personal/work file storage having 2 drives is gonna be nothing new, the second drive follows the rules of a folder, in other words, just like your dvd player, its listed under "my computer", and when you click it, it opens like a folder, and in this folder is basically all the space of your hdd2, you can create folders, copy and paste stuff or drag and drop just like any other folder. here you can see my pc with 10 hdds , you click any of those and its like opening a folder. The side fan is for better airflow and sits right over the gpu and mobo, blowing in cool air, creating better airflow and thus better case temps, which in turn will help some hardware's temps. So in short I would say the side fan is a must have and it only costs $20. The reason for recommending the stock 922 over the blue version is due to the above mentioned side fan and its air flow, so as you mentioned yourself, its why I said the stock 922, to be honest, you can do this yourself, its pretty easy, you looking at undoing 4 screws practically. My pleasure ![]() Edited by DST4ME - 18 May 2011 at 6:09am |
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 6:38am |
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I know there is a 550 gtx out vs the 550 ti but it has 1GB of ram also, I'm not aware of a 550 with more then 1GB of ram.
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Posted: 18 May 2011 at 2:04pm |
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@AlteredArmF05, I'm sorry the inconvenience with some of the back ordered items. The reason why certain systems proceed through the testing process is because we like to test all of the other components while we're waiting for items to come in-stock. This way, we can ship your system as quickly as possible. If you can email me ([email protected]) and include your order number, I'll be more than happy to look into your order and see what we can do to get things moving.
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