Quad core or dual core?

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   Hey i'm new here, my Bro bought on eof these computers awhile back, and now i'm going to buy one...

i was curious which woul dgimme more power? a 2.4GHz quad core? or a 3.0GHz dual core? 

thanks! 

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paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Topic: Quad core or dual core? Posted: 16 Apr 2008 at 8:24pm
	Hey i'm new here, my Bro bought on eof these computers awhile back, and now i'm going to buy one... i was curious which woul dgimme more power? a 2.4GHz quad core? or a 3.0GHz dual core? thanks!

SunfighterLC Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2008 at 8:31pm
	more power now or later is a better question. The E class gives more power for gaming as of right now mostly due to games not being tuned for quad core CPUs, so in that case the quad will only get to run its 2 cores as well..and obviously the higher clock speed of the E class will win out. The Q class quad cores will probably be more future proof due to the fact that eventually (when is the big question) games will start to support these chips. (a select few already do) In this case the sheer number of cores, while slower, will end up overtaking the E class. So for gaming... Do you want fast now(E8400) or later(Q6600)?
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Bill the Cat Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Forum Bitch! Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1150	Quote Reply Posted: 16 Apr 2008 at 9:25pm
	SLC has the right idea. If I were buying a PC today, I'd get a 780i motherboard and a smoking dual core CPU. In a couple of three years after aggressive overclocking frys the CPU, I'd re-evaluate the state of multithreaded software and consider getting a quad then.
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paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2008 at 11:18am
	umm, ok.. heres the specs i'm probably going to get: pecifications: Case: Digital Storm 450Si (Black Aluminum Edition) Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 680i LT Core 2 Quad (nForce 680i LT SLI) Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 Floppy / Card: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: 80GB Western Digital (8MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: Setup hard drive 1 and hard drive 2 in a Raid 0 Stripe Configuration (Expert) Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE Physics Card: - No Thanks Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes) Round Cables: - No Thanks User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals) Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Dual Boot (Windows XP Home & Windows Vista Home Premium) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support will this work for present gaming and future gaming?

Tyler Lowe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2008 at 11:30am
	Yes, it sure will. I would not be worried that the Q6600 will not reach 4.0 GHz. The CPU hardly matters for gaming. If your processor will hit 3GHz, or close to it, that is as fast as it needs to go. A couple of items/suggestions: -You can't put fixed drives of differing capacity into a RAID array. The 80GB and 320GB selections are fine, just drop the "RAID 0" request. -Drop the sound card. A difference between that inexpensive card and onboard audio is nonexistent, and the money can be put to better use. -Do what you can to upgrade the motherboard to a 780i. Your overclocking potential will increase dramatically.

paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2008 at 1:31pm
	well my Bro bought that sound card and it does wonders for him. and why should i drop the RAID? doesn't that help the system go faster? or something? and i'll try to see if i can get the 780i.

paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Posted: 17 Apr 2008 at 1:34pm
	sorry for the double post heres the new Config: and the Price is $1,703$ Specifications: Case: Digital Storm 450Si (Black Aluminum Edition) Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition) Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache) Motherboard: nVidia 780i Core 2 Quad (nForce 780i SLI) Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 Floppy / Card: - No Thanks Hard Drive 1: 320GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Hard Drive 2: 80GB Western Digital (8MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA) Raid Option: - No Thanks Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB TV Tuner: - No Thanks Sound Card: Motherboard Multi-Channel High Definition Audio Physics Card: - No Thanks Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes) Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes) Round Cables: - No Thanks User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals) Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Dual Boot (Windows XP Home & Windows Vista Home Premium) Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based) Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Benchmarking: - No Thanks Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks LCD Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support Edited by paintballakid5 - 17 Apr 2008 at 1:35pm

Tyler Lowe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 12:09am
	Much better . On the sound card- the onboard audio is really very good on the 780i. Unless the sound card you install has it's own sound processor, you just won't see any performance improvements in terms of in game frame rates. For less expensive motherboards, the addition of an entry level audio card can make a substantial improvement. The built in 7.1 channel sound in this case is well beyond that.

MrNanite Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 507	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 8:01am
	yeah, but if you're in to high-def stuff or other audio intensive functions, then the sound card would make the difference. But true, for most games, the additional cost into a sound card probably won't make much difference in your overall experience.

SunfighterLC Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 8:06am
	eh, to me id say try out the onboard audio first, and if you dont like it, go get a sound card you want from like..best buy or online at newegg or some other online site. They arnt too hard to install yourself. Kinda like memory or adding a second gpu.
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Gary Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 196	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 9:25am
	I have the Q6600 and love it.It is plenty fast enough for any game. Thats a good choice.

widdlecat Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 840	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 10:22pm
	I have a soundblaster audigy card from my old pc and tried it out, but it didn't sound as good as the onboard sound of my new pc. The Q6600 seems to be a workhorse cpu. Overclockers seem to love it... I wish I could afford one... LOL!


SunfighterLC Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List DS Veteran Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1527	Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 2008 at 10:26pm
	Look on the bright side, you have a better computer then I do. Im still half tempted to buy crysis so i can pay it at about 3fps. Kinda like oblivion...cept i get about 9fps out of that.
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paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 8:22pm
	yeah... i'm blowing almost all my money on this computer, so i wanna make sure it will be Super crazy, and last a long time... just a question? using a Onboard sound card wouldn't that slow it down more than having a seperate Sound "Card"?

Tyler Lowe Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 14 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 2008 at 8:29pm
	Sound will eat up CPU cycles, but unless you go all the way to an X-Fi, a sound card will also rely on the CPU, so an entry level card will not gain you any performance advantage in terms of reducing CPU load. Even at that, the advantage is generally minimal when using one of the extremely powerful core2 duo's or quads. Personally, for a budget build, I would not even consider installing a sound card.

paintballakid5 Members Profile Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 181	Quote Reply Posted: 21 Apr 2008 at 12:40am
	ok sweet... thanks!

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