[Question on updating my rig] - please assistPost Date: 2015-10-28 |
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darbebo
Senior Member Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
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Topic: [Question on updating my rig] - please assist Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 7:21am |
Hello fellow DS members,
Need a little bit of your time + expertise My current DS rig is a little bit over 5 yrs old (bought in July 2010). For the past year or so I've been noticing the system getting slower (most likely because my SSD only has like 15 gb left of space) and my video card is getting old. Recently it seems like my video driver has been either crashing or the whole screen just froze for like a min or so before resuming. Therefore, I want to explore my options, whether to buy a brand new rig (obviously the best but most expensive choice) or to buy new parts and replace some of them. My initial logic was that I would spend more on the initial purchase on the processor + power supply + motherboard so I can last a couple of years and when it's time I can simply swap out the hard drive + replace vid card + replace/add RAM - all based on the assumption that the CPU is still "powerful enough" to take on the newer vid cards and RAM add-on Here is my spec Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Sniper Processor: i7930 2.8 ghz (quad core) Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE Edition SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports SLI or CrossFire) 6 gb ram DDR 3 1600 MHZ Digigtal Storm certified 1000w Corsair Power supply (Dual/tri/quad SLI compatible) Vid card : 1x ATI Radeon HD 5870 1 GB Cooling: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 Extreme Performance Overclocked to between 3.3 to 3.90 500 gb western digital regular hard drive OCZ SSD Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC (self add) blue ray + dvd player , nothing extraordinary. win 7 home 64 bit Dual monitors I most likely just play Dota on one screen and watch anime on the other screen, nothing "heavy", but i know the loading time on Dota has increased drastically. My thought is that "if" my processor + mobo is deemed still "usable" and my rig can simply be "refreshed" instead of a total overhaul, I would replace all my current SSD + HD, replace video card, replace/add RAM to make it 8GB. Because if the above lets my computer feel younger by 2-3 years again, then it's a much worth it investment. But i guess main question is I don't know if my CPU + mobo can support this upgrade. Thanks for your expertise!!!! -darbebo Edited by darbebo - 28 Oct 2015 at 7:22am |
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 9:59am |
Hi darbedo........Been awhile. The cpu is getting a bit old, and the newer chips will give you better performance, especially single core, and many more features. But, just throwing in a gtx 970 for example will give you a significant boost in gaming. Not sure adding ram will do much.
If it was me, I would just add the card and enjoy until the time is right to buy a new rig. The Vanquish lvl 3 will get you modern plus a double size SSD and new HDD. The level 2 with the gtx 960 will also give you double performance for some games. I haven't priced what you want to do, but adding the 960 4gb vram is about $250, -plus ram , a new SSD and HDD would get close to $400-500, just off the top of my head. A lot cheaper than a new Vanquish but still dated in certain areas. Your 930 will feel it on some of the more cpu intense games but the 960/970 will still overcome most of it. Hope this helps. Edited by bprat22 - 28 Oct 2015 at 10:03am |
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darbebo
Senior Member Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 12:10pm |
ah, so compatibility wise the 930 + the mobo isn't "too old" to have them paired together then, cool, will look into this!
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bprat22
DS ELITE DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 12:45pm |
You're good to go. When you look into it you might notice that your mobo is Pcie 2.0 and today's graphics cards are 3.0. No problem, it's backward compatible with little or no performance hit. Plenty of bandwidth to not saturate the Pcie slot the card fits into.
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FrankW
DS Veteran Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 1:50pm |
Hi darbebo,
I am facing the same choices as you. I have the same MB, CPU, GPU and memory. My system was bought March 10, 2010. The ATI Radeon HD 5870 has been a great card but is way past its peak performance life. If you want to see increased gaming performance then a new GPU is your best single purchase you could make. The problem we face is how much longer is the CPU and MB going to last. Also, our SATA ports, USB ports and PCI are falling behind in performance due to new releases. Right now with the 6800K CPU and the new Motherboards it is an ideal time to buy new. I don't know for sure what I am going to do but here is what I suggest you consider, if you don't buy new. Buy a 970 GPU and put it in you computer. Off load some of the data from your 120Gb SSD to your HDD and stop there. These two thing should increase your performance in gaming. Not so much because of the SSD but the GPU will make a big difference. Now if your CPU or motherboard fails buy a new system with a 970 GPU. When you get your new system home install your existing 970 in SLI. This way you don't waste your investment in the new GPU and gives new life to your old system. This will work with a 970, 980 or 980Ti. Frank Edited by FrankW - 28 Oct 2015 at 1:53pm |
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db188
DS Veteran Joined: 29 Jul 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2115 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 2:45pm |
i'm just going to assume that your slow downs are not a result of NOT running house cleaning programs like CC Cleaner, clearing your internet cache and defraging your hard drive.
that I7 cpu is NOT what's holding back your graphics performance either. the video card is in need (as many have already suggested) of a major upgrade. 1GB VRAM just doesn't get it done these days either. system ram could use a slight bump as well. otherwise, as long as everything is in good working order you're fine until the new stuff comes out in a year or so. definitely migrate most of your data over to the larger capacity hard drive and use the ssd for os+current games. or you could just buy another cheap SATA ssd that you can rip out and install in a new system build down the road. you can probably get a little more out of that oc on the cpu (up to 4.0GHz) with that D14 cooler. Edited by db188 - 28 Oct 2015 at 2:54pm |
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darbebo
Senior Member Joined: 18 Jun 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 515 |
Quote Reply Posted: 28 Oct 2015 at 6:11pm |
Hi all
Thanks for the replies. @ FrankW - i definitely remember you when I was ordering my comp and I guess I am lucky that there's someone in my situation to share my grief. I wanted to get a new DS rig, but that'll put me 2.5 to 3k just like it was 5 years ago. At this time since my dual monitors are DVI , I was actually looking at the GTX 750TI @ newegg, good price @ 130 ($110 after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125502 and then replace my existing rams wtih just 2x Corsair vengenance ram (8gb total) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144&cm_re=8_gb_ram-_-20-233-144-_-Product i THINK the mobo is compatible with this RAM - would suck to buy the ram and the slot space doesn't fit or something So this will put me about close to 200$ and give me a breath of life back. Again, I play dota, so 750 TI should be decent upgrade from my 5870? or is 750TI not that big of an improvement over 5870? @ db188 - thanks for that, i think maybe i'll give that a little try before new rig What do you guys think? UPDATE! - i looked @ my rig inside just now...the D14 fan is too dang huge...it SEEMS like my existing 2x3gb ram BARELY sits right NEXT to the fan....i think the DS issued ram was "low enough" to be underneath the D14 so i THINK i might need 1x 8gb ram...omg... |
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