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    Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 11:35am

Kelly helped me with the components yesterday but I have a few questions and DS is still closed (/rude PST!).

So here's what I have:
 
Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=94902

Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm Twister EXTREME (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 750W SilverStone Olympia (Dual SLI Compatible) (Model: OP750) (Silent)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i Core 2 Quad (By: NVIDIA) (nForce 680i SLI)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz Dominator (Dual Channel) (High-Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB (By: eVGA) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Motherboard Multi-Channel High Definition Audio (7.1 Channel)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink (Copper Heatpipes)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder
Overclock Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
 
Questions:
  1. I live in a 3rd floor vintage Chicago building and I don't use a/c Smile.  It can get quite hot here in the summer.  Kelly recommended the CM 830 but I like the design of the SilverStone.  How many fans should I add to keep the case nice and cool?  Are the stock fans sufficient or do I need to upgrade them?
  2. This really isn't a question, just a to-do.  I'm thinking of going with Vista 64 but need to research support for some of my favorite apps.
    • Everquest 2!  Some people continue to have issues so I'll look into this.
    • Fubar 2000.  Who would use anything else?!?!
    • Burrrn.  Nice and light but I can find a rep for this little app if it's not supported.
  3. I'm planning to re-use 2 HD's but they are imaged with XP.  If my new main drive has Vista 64, will I be able to access the files on my XP drives?  Will I be able to boot into my XP drive if I choose to?
    • Let's say /buggyCode = True with EQ2 and Vista --> can I just book into XP and play the game?
  4. Is the Q6600 offered with G0 stepping?
  5. Can I really get away with a Corsair 620?  I'll probably set up SLI in 2008 and will have 3-4 HD's running.

You guys are great.  I've learned a lot from reading the forums the past few weeks and your input is Thumbs%20Up
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Posts: 0 		  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 12:33pm
1.  The Extreme is equiped with side vents to facilitate positive air flow (intake), unlike my Pro case which has problems drawing in enough air to cool the CPU sufficiently. Bill The Cat seems to love his and gets very good idle temps. Having said that, the Ultra has the capability to mount an additional 4x 80mm fans on the side panel if you run into problems with that Chicago heat in the summer. If you do go with the Extreme, I would ask for them to add in the optional fans. I believe the Extreme supports up to 5. They are cheap, the Silverstone fans are quiet, and having too much airflow is a bit like having too much money- I haven't experienced either yet and don't believe I will.
 
3. I'm not sure. I boot off a single OS HDD with both XP and Vista. I think you could do what you're asking, but you might have to change boot order in the BIOS in order to select between OS.
 
4. Yes, and ask for it. Had I known before I placed my order how much more temperature tolerant the G0 is, I would have found more room in my budget to pay the premium for the G0 stepping.
 
5. Power Supply Calculator  I just tried a setup with everything you described at 100% load and came to 584 W, worst case, using a B3 stepping CPU. Yes, the Corsair can handle that. I don't know anything about the new Silverstone PSU's DSO is offering, but will say my Corsair is amazing. I would ask Kelly what his impression is of the Silverstone product. I highly doubt Silverstone is making their own, so there is probably an established performance/reliability track record for whomever is manufacturing the units for them. If DSO switched to the Silverstone from Thermaltake, there must be a good reason for this.
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Posts: 19 		  Quote mrosinack Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 6:23pm
With respect to the Q6600, I believe the only ones that DS currently uses are G0 stepping based on some recent correspondence I had regarding my order, so you should be good there...
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Posts: 791 		  Quote Kelly Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 6:35pm
Tyler, the fans are 120mm that are optional in the Ultra
 
 
I am not a fan of the silverstone PSU.  Not saying they're crap or anything, I just prefer something with a little more name to them when it comes to power.
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how do you get the other options on the configurator?  I can't see the overclocked part, etc.., just the regular configuration screen...
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Posts: 2220 		  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 9:52pm
Look closer. It's labeled as "Digital Storm TwisterBoost Technology" right below "Digital Storm Workshop".
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Posts: 0 		  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by Kelly

Tyler, the fans are 120mm that are optional in the Ultra
 
 
I am not a fan of the silverstone PSU.  Not saying they're crap or anything, I just prefer something with a little more name to them when it comes to power.
 
Hmm. Definately don't want to hand out bad info Embarrassed, I know there are several possible configurations for fans in the Stacker, is that a single side mounted 120 for the Ultra?
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Posts: 1150 		  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Nov 2007 at 11:22pm
Originally posted by Genero

Questions:
  1. I live in a 3rd floor vintage Chicago building and I don't use a/c Smile.  It can get quite hot here in the summer.  Kelly recommended the CM 830 but I like the design of the SilverStone.  How many fans should I add to keep the case nice and cool?  Are the stock fans sufficient or do I need to upgrade them?
  2. ?
  3. I'm planning to re-use 2 HD's but they are imaged with XP. 
    1.  If my new main drive has Vista 64, will I be able to access the files on my XP drives? 
    2.  Will I be able to boot into my XP drive if I choose to?
  4. Let's say /buggyCode = True with EQ2 and Vista --> can I just book into XP and play the game?
  5. Is the Q6600 offered with G0 stepping?
  6. Can I really get away with a Corsair 620?  I'll probably set up SLI in 2008 and will have 3-4 HD's running.

  1. I have no idea what Chicago is like in the summer. Could be colder than a witch's  Censored. I like the TJ9, but it's expensive; probably worth it. I was kind of surprised at how hot HDs get. If you put 3 HDs in a TJ9, I'd consider adding the 120mm fan that can go between the transverse drive bays. As an alternative I'd also consider this thing http://www.masscool.com/masscool/Imagep/SHF1-UTRA-BK_L.jpg I have no idea how well it works, but it would look "cool" staring out from one of the TJ9's drive bays.
  2. No Clue
  3. 1) Yes. 2) Not from the existing installation. That install isn't going to understand anything about your new machine. Creating a duel boot machine from scratch using those HDs shoud be easy.
  4. Sure.
  5. Answered by others
  6. Probably, but get a 750 anyway.
3.6 GHz E6850,       4 GB RAM, GTS 250,   TJ9, Win 7 64-bit
4.4 GHz i7 3930K, 16 GB RAM, GTX 670, 550D, Win 7 64-bit
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Posts: 18 		  Quote Genero Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Nov 2007 at 3:59pm

Order *just* placed.  Why isn't it in stage 1 yet (j/k!).

A SUPER BIG THANKS is in line for the forum members, DS mods, Dave and Kelly.  All of you should be happy because you do influence buyers.
 
Here's my final order:
 
Case: Digital Storm Twister EXTREME (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 750W SilverStone Olympia (Dual SLI Compatible) (Model: OP750) (Silent)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i Core 2 Quad (By: eVGA) (nForce 680i SLI) (A1 Revision)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz Dominator (Dual Channel) (High-Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB (By: eVGA) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS (Up to 7.1 Channel) (Includes I/O Unit)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink (Copper Heatpipes)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder
Overclock Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
 
My current pc is a P4 2.4 ghz, 6800gt.  I can play games....except for anything cutting edge Tongue.
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