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Post Date: 2007-11-07
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    Posted: 07 Nov 2007 at 3:16am
I have a few questions regarding a system I'm going to be buying soon from here. (within the next month or so)
 
Here is what it looks like so far:
 
Case: Digital Storm Twister ULTRA (Silver Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 750W Silverstone (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 680i Core 2 Quad (By: eVGA) (nForce 680i SLI) (A1 Revision)
Memory: 4GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz Dominator (Dual Channel) (High-Performance)
Floppy / Media: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 250GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: 250GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Modem: - No Thanks
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB (By: eVGA) (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer (Up to 7.1 Channel) (Recommended)
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 (Silent Artic Cooling (TwisterBoost Overclocked)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Green Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: Enhanced Interior Air Flow (Optical Drive & Floppy Cables (Blue Edition)
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs/Manuals)
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support
 
First off I can't decide which is better the Ultra or Extreme case or if the pro is good enough.  I might run SLI later (Two 8800 GT's).  They are both the same price from what I can tell.  I start to get a little nervous after the $2100 mark, so going with the  pro seems like a reasonble place to cut price here.
 
Whats the difference between the 800mhz Dominator and the 800mhz XMS2?  I'm looking at getting 4 gigs of which ever is better heh.
 
Is the Twisterboost overclock on a Q6600 worth it?   More so how much faster is it on an average with the Twisterboost.
 
Is Raid 0 Stripe worth it?  Is their more of a chance of the HDD's crashing?
 
Is there a new Mobo comming out anytime soon? Also I read somewere that a new version of the 640MB 8800 comming out soon?
 
Thanks in advance!
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Both Ultra and Extreme are great cases. The Ultra case attracts dust faster...

Yes there is more chance of HDDs failing since you have two instead of one...

Yes overclocking the Q6600 is worth it, on average it's a 19% increase.

Nvidia 780i is releasing on November 12th...

Rumor has it that revised 8800 GTS 640MB is coming out before the end of this year. The 640MB 90NM expected to release Nov 12th and 512MB / 1GB 65NM version is expected for December 3rd.


Edited by skyR - 07 Nov 2007 at 8:38am
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Which would be better going Extreme Case and getting 800mhtz Dominator ram (4gigs) OR 4 gigs of the 1066mhtz Dominator ram and the Pro case? Either combination is about the same (right around $2500)
 
looks like the 780i isnt really anything new from what I can tell besides Tri-sli.(lot of extra heat 3 gfx cards heh).
 
The "New" rumored 8800 GTS 640MB would be nice.
 
I think I will forget about the Raid 0 Stripe, heh.
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800MHz and Extreme would be my choice.
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The only thing beneficial for raid nowadays is to raid0 2 or more 150 Raptors.  But even then is a big 'if'.
 
I would go with the 1066 and ultra
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just so I understand this better: why is there a bigger risk of hard drive failures if you go with raid 0?
Processor: QX6850 (3.3Ghz)
RAM: 4GB 1066 Dominators
Graphics: 2x 8800GTX 768MB
Sound Card: Fatal1ty
HDD 1: 2x 150GB raptor (RAID 0)
HDD 2: 1x 150GB raptor
HDD 3: 320GB western
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Originally posted by Bigdog

just so I understand this better: why is there a bigger risk of hard drive failures if you go with raid 0?


Because there are 2 drives.

If one HDD had a 5% chance of failing and you add a second one that also has a 5% chance of failing. That gives you 10% chance of failure...

In RAID 0, if one HDD fails, your system fails.

And for the 780i, it also comes with PCI-E 2.0 which would be good for SLI.



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PCI-E 2.0 sounds nice though, I will wait till PCI-E 3.0 hits before I get a new motherboard.
Processor: QX6850 (3.3Ghz)
RAM: 4GB 1066 Dominators
Graphics: 2x 8800GTX 768MB
Sound Card: Fatal1ty
HDD 1: 2x 150GB raptor (RAID 0)
HDD 2: 1x 150GB raptor
HDD 3: 320GB western
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what about PCI-E 10.0 with 6 card SLI and with 10 ghz cpu's and liquid nitrogen stock cooling with voice activated nuking capabilities?Thumbs%20Up if this guy could do a two thumbs up he would
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Wouldn't it still be 5% chance of failure. Having 2 would be 5% for each, not 10% each? Confused
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Originally posted by skyR

 The 640MB 90NM expected to release Nov 12th and 512MB / 1GB 65NM version is expected for December 3rd.
 
What will be so different about the 512 65nm compared to the 8800GT?
Pro case with extra fan
Quad Q6600 2.4 OC'd 3.1!
Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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The 8800GT has 112 SP while the 8800GTS will have 128 (same as Ultra)

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so are they replacing the GTX/Ultra?
Pro case with extra fan
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Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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Pro case with extra fan
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Nvidia 8800GT
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo
2xgb 800mhz corsair

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