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    Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 8:41pm
 
which would be better
2GB DDR2 Corsair at 1066MHz
or
4GB coursair at 800MHz
 
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2GB at 1066MHZ, more ram speed is better imo.
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thats what i thoughtConfused............................and i was given the wrong parts
 
of the 4GB my comp is only using 2813 MB
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2GB will be faster cause of the 1066MHz speed, but the 4GB will allow you to run more apps at the same time without crashes/hangups.

best thing to do in this case if go for 4GB of ram at 1066MHz best of both worlds.

but remember ram speed alone will not make that much of a difference, the biggest difference comes from your processor

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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 9:12pm
Click on "my computer" then choose "properties"

how much ram does is say you have?

you can also check your bios, it will tell you how ram you truely have.

in xp you should see your 4GB of ram listed as 3GB.
in vista you should see your 4GB of ram listed as 3.5GB

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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 9:23pm
on my laptop I got vista 32bit and 4GB of ram and it shows as 3.5GB

in xp I got 4GB and it shows as 3GB

but he never told us were he got his number from

Edited by DST4ME - 11 Aug 2008 at 9:23pm

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Vista 32 uses 2.5-3.5 ram. Though the service pack should show your full ram regardless. 
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not sure what you mean HM, what subtracts the ram and shows whats left over? under "my computer">properties, how much ram the OS can see is listed, there is no subtraction.

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According to this article, there is very little benefit to faster RAM.
 
 
Basically, RAM speed is rarely a bottleneck, so increasing the RAM speed shows very little impact on overall performance (1-3% at best).
 
Conclusion - More cheap RAM > Less More Expensive RAM
 
I would be interested if anyone has seen benchmark testing data using real world applications contradicting this.
 
 
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Aug 2008 at 10:22pm
Originally posted by harleyman


Did that make any sence?  Just lie and say yes....Smile


ok, I will lie and say yes


Originally posted by TomD

According to this article, there is very little benefit to faster RAM.

 


 

Basically, RAM speed is rarely a bottleneck, so increasing the RAM speed shows very little impact on overall performance (1-3% at best).

 

Conclusion - More cheap RAM > Less More Expensive RAM

 

I would be interested if anyone has seen benchmark testing data using real world applications contradicting this.

 

 


as I already stated, I agree with your comments, real speed comes from processor, ram at best makes minimal difference to real world apps. Now as for games I don't know.

I can tell you I have changed ram speed and not noticed any difference in real world apps, main one was FAH. that thing does not fold one second faster if you raise the speed of ram, but take up the processor and things start moving.


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32 bit operating systems can only address up to 4GB of memory which includes RAM, OS needs, and all add-in cards.

So in this case, his video card takes up 512mb memory which leaves him with 3.5GB.

Than his sound card also takes up a bit of memory.. And finally his operating system takes up a bit.. which leaves him at 2.8GB.

More RAM is always better than faster ram with the current generation of processors in 64 bit operating systems. But since you are using a 32 bit operating system, you are basically limited to ~2-3GB of RAM.
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but where in the pc do you see that? "my computer">properties , always shows what the os is cable of seeing.

in xp its 3GB
in vista 32bit its 3.5GB
in vista 32bit sp1 its 4GB

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