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    Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 2:58pm
this what you want:

here you go Ticket# 185017 --- Price: $5166 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad QX9770 Extreme 3.20GHz (1600MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz OCZ Platinum Edition
Card Reader: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black)
Hard Drive 1: 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x) (LightScribe Edition)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB) (Includes PhysX Technology)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Liquid Chilled FrostBite CPU Only
Internal Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Blue Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Modifications: NVIDIA Enthusiast System Architecture (ESA) System (Install, Test, Optimize Computer)
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)
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  Quote Ramdurand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 4:07pm
What about this system
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If i order the computer without a monitor will it be a problem hooking one up when i get the system.  I ordered a dell xps a couple of years ago without the monitor and keyboard and when i went to hook them up it wouldn't accept it.  I didn't even get the computer running and i had to send it back for a refund.  Thats why i am here.
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Why not liquid cool the graphics cards?  Thanks for the help DST4ME
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monitor setup is so easy its not even funny, you can call DS and they will walk you thru it if you don't feel comfortable.

find your monitor at newegg, you will get a better price, check here for some recommendations

no reason to OC your graphic cards, thus no reason to liquid cool them, the HAF case has great air cooling and will keep your cards cool since the CPU is being liquid cooled.

not sure what happened with your dell, I'm an ex dell customer also and I think there was something wrong with that PC, that situation is not normal at all.

But a good think it happened because this pc will kick any xps's butt.

I would recommend if you like, for you to add a second HDD (500GB) for storing your media/personal files so that the os drive stays clean and fast

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With that ESA thing, how much do you have to do with that.  I am the type of person that would like to have everything ready to go so i don't have to monkey around with adjusting things.  I don't know as much about computers as you guys do. 
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If you don't care about tweaking, I would not pay for ESA.
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Okay here is another question.  How much tweaking is there with a computer like this?  Once its setup you shouldn't have to touch it anymore should you?
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TL is right if you don't want to mess with stuff then remove esa

once you get the pc and runing no there is nothing to mess with.

you may want to go to your bios and write down the oc setting just incase you need them later.

but remember you can always call DS, and get an english speaking person walk you thru anything you like.
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The ability to tweak to your heart's content with hardware like this is there. DSO is going to set it up when they build it, so if that is not something you care for, it's also not neccesary. In this way, if you are a hardcore computer enthusiast you can have fun fine tuning to your personal tastes, and if you are not, you will get a system that will knock your socks off anyway, pre-tuned for performance.  
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  Quote Ramdurand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 20 Sep 2008 at 4:45pm
How is the corsair power unit is it quiet?  Also what about the 64 bit vista is it easy to use.  I heard there is some issues with older programs not working. 
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some very old games maybe but most programs run on vista, you can run 32bit apps on vista 64bit no problem

well its not loud but its not exactly quiet either but for your setup you can't go any lower
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I'm running 64 bit ultimate ed, and have had zero issues with anything. Maybe before service pack 1 there were problems, but older apps just run in 32 bit mode- again, no issues I can report here.
 
Corsair PSU's are among the best on the market. The HX series is whisper quiet, and very efficient. The 1000W version is a touch louder than the smaller units, but very quiet for it's capacity.
 


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How much juice do you think this rig is going to use?  Is it better to get the 1200watts?  I am a newb with alot of questions.  Thanks again for your help guys

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no 1000w is perfect, 1200 is overkill and way loud.

ask as many questions as you like, its what we are hear for
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Thanks,  who makes a good gaming monitor
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Samsung.
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I said this befor but I guess you missed it :

find your monitor at newegg, you will get a better price, check here for some recommendations

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I was just looking at newegg Cool.   When DS overclocks the cpu do they all end up about the same speed?  or is each chip different.  Also with the dual video cards do you have to do anything with them before you play a game.  Set them up i mean.   Its been years since i have played a computer game.  I miss it

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no the oc depends on your cooling (case, heatsink, air/liquid cooling) and mombo... well lets just say every system is different.
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How long do you think this computer will last with out upgrading.  Right now my gateway has 512mb and a 74 gig hd Smile
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Every chip overclocks differently. Selecting better cooling and RAM ensures you get as close to the individual chip's performance potential, but there are no garantees of the final result.
 
The time frame between upgrades is dependant on how tolerant you are of lagging behind bleeding edge performance. For some, this type of system might last close to 8 years. For others, they would not be comfortable using it for more than a year or 2. The choice on how often to upgrade is a function of personal taste and often, wallet.


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I was going to ask this before. Is 4 gigs of ram plenty?  or is more better.
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yes but in this case he is getting the top of the line CPU that is offered now, and he can't upgrade that anymore cause for the new CPU, he will need new mombo, chip, heads kink, liquid cooling.

this pc will last you a long time.

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I hope it lasts along time because its alot of cash.  If i got a monitor on Newegg does it come with all the cables i would need to hook it up.  The dell thing really pissed me off with the monitor and keyboard

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Yeah, to upgrade your system from this, you're talking replacement, but there it is. Some people would not be able to stand the idea that something faster is out there. Other people don't upgrade until the system they own just won't do something they need it to. Again, it's a personal decision. That's not a judgement of the system as configured, just an observation about end users, and how everyone's level of tolerance for a system that is not up to the moment is different. My guess with this system, is that with a graphics card update every two years, you might be able to get a good 6 years out of it.

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Forget the Dell thing, like I said that is not normal.

check and see whats included with the monitor, not sure if the cabels come with it
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One last question.  How much maintence is there with the liquid cooling?  What if it breaks.

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very little maintence, you may wantto check your levels once a month, with teh haf you can just add liquid if needed.

have a look here:



other then that, you may want to clean your system every 5 years, and DS will help you with that if you like

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That is an awesome case.  Do you think that 4 gigs of ram is plenty for awhile
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unless you are doing heavy graphic work, (3D and etc.,) I think 4GB is plenty for a long while, but you can always buy more and add to it, your system can hold atleast 8GB of ram.

but for games and other normal stuff you should be ok

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What about that sound card Razor.  Any good?  Or would the SB be a better one to get.  I listen to alot of music on my computer now
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widdlecat, is our sound guru and she says razer is the way to go

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Hey thanks for your help DST4ME  and Tyler Lowe.  You have been alot of help.  Thanks for saving me money.  I am sure i will have more questions in the future.Ermm
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Anytime boss, anytime

enjoy the pc, now to pay us back, when you get the pc, please post your review with lots of pic so we can enjoy it with you
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