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    Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 7:36pm
Hello all,

Originally, I had a much larger budget in mind - but now that its down to placing my order, I'm thinking I want to stick to 3G's.

I'll be gaming on a 23" Apple LCD, 1920x1200 - Stuff I'm looking forward to playing are Stalker Clear Sky, Fallout3, Left for Dead, etc.

I like to jack up my settings - How do you think this rig will handle?
http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=175377

Thanks,

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Copy of Specifications:
Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
 
 
 
 
 
To fully take advantage of anything over 2GB of memory, you need a x64bit os.
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 7:51pm
Word, good point. I'll drop that down to 2GBs.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=175413

How's that?

Specifications:
Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 2GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


Edited by sk - 14 Aug 2008 at 7:52pm
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  Quote Slicer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2008 at 8:21pm
Looks good, only thing I would recommend is potentially dropping the sound card in favor of onboard sound, bump cooling to Stage 3 and potentially throw in a 2nd HD for storage/games. Or keep the sound and make those minor adjustments for a couple hundred bucks having Stage 3 + 2nd HD is well worth it.
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  Quote widdlecat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 1:16am
I don't mean to spend your money freely, but rather than dropping your ram to 2GB, I'd stick with 4GB and go with a 64-bit OS. The newer games are going to demand more memory. Assassin's Creed needs 3GB to run with all settings maxxed. I'm sure games will only demand more memory in the future. Perhaps doing some manipulation of the config can keep the 4GB memory and 64-bit OS within your budget.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 1:39am
I don't think you gonna see much OC with stage 2 cooling.

your best OC results are with liquid cooling.

also like to vote for 4GB of ram
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  Quote Sneakerz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 12:53pm

I would go with the liquid cooling if you can afford it. If not, atleast upgrade to Stage 3 Cooling. Stage 2 will not yield much of a OC.

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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 1:17pm
Hello,

So last night I ordered this: System Configuration:
Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 2GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 2 (Silent Artic Cooling Heat-sink Upgrade (Copper Heatpipes)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Windows Boost: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

And this AM I'm reading your comments, so I created this machine:

Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty


Do you think the second one will be better? I can probably call and switch my order tonight because I don't think they've started building it yet...

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=175523
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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 1:29pm

Not to sound like a broken record, but one more voice for the choir: get stage 3 cooling if you plan to overclock. Here's why: Your CPU is going to be putting out more heat, that's something everyone probably already understands about overclocking. You have a stage 2 cooling option selected, so you no doubt understood this well. What not everyone knows, or stops to consider, is the effect ocverclocking has on other system components. Your memory is likely going to be stressed a bit in terms of heat, but also your motherboard power regulation, and your memory controller. Basically, overclocking puts more stress on the whole system, and that shows up as additional heat.

The best way to combat this, is high performance case fans *in addition* to liquid cooling. Liquid cooling will definitely help to reduce overall system heat inside your case, and this makes cooling your motherboard components much easier, but even given that, liquid cooled systems can benefit from improved air cooling inside the case. The problem with liquid cooling, is it's relatively expensive, and it makes upgrading your system much more difficult than air cooled solutions.
 
Second best behind liquid cooling, is stage 3 air cooling. This ensures adequate air flow to all system components. Air, as many will already know, is an outstanding insulater. It is used in double paned and triple paned windows to increase household energy efficiency, and it is just as good at not absorbing heat inside your computer case. This is why we see massive exchange surface areas on heat sinks. Cooler air is better at taking on heat than warm air, and what stage 3 cooling does, is to force enough cooler, room temperature air through your system to compensate for air's poor thermal absorption. 
 
The single best, and most cost effective investment you can make in terms of performance, is improved system cooling. This to the extent that I would heartily recommend stage 3 cooling over the sound card if it comes to that in order to stay in budget.


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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2008 at 1:56pm
Hello,

Ok, I'll def go w/stage 3 cooling.
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2008 at 8:08am
In stage 1 baby!

System Configuration:
Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card(s): NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
CPU Boost: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Memory Boost: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Windows Boost: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

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  Quote Slicer Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2008 at 11:18am
congrats man, welcome to the family 
850 SI
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790i Ultra DDR3
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2008 at 3:27pm
congrats, you gonna love that pc
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2008 at 4:58pm
Thank you guys! Hell yea, I cannot wait to get gaming on this baby!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2008 at 8:13pm
HarleyMan - This is a gaming rig only. I have two other PC's and plenty of external storage. 150GBs should be find for gaming.

I can also throw another HD in if/when I run up on my storage capacity in the future....

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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2008 at 9:28am
still in stage 1....I'll keep you all updated!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2008 at 10:06am
harleyman - nice dood. I remember reading about your troubles (i think)...you must be going crazy! heh
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2008 at 10:30am
I just went ahead and had some upgrades added while it was being built - haha. Nice!

What's your rig? got the URL?
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  Quote Sneakerz Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2008 at 1:11pm
HM I hope you have the digital camera ready cause you know were all waiting to hear about it and see this new beast!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2008 at 1:53pm
Stage 2 y'all!

@harleyman - yeah that rig looks great. Killer.

@sneakerz - I'll be sure to have tons of pictures!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Aug 2008 at 9:13pm
Stage 3 baby! what!!
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Stage 4 y'all. Dope boy fresh!
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On noes, stage 5!!!! woooooooooooooooooo
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Go go go go go! =P can you post the final configs?
               
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Specifications:
Chassis: Digital Storm 850Si
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz (1333MHz FSB) (12MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 790i Ultra Core 2 Quad (nForce 790i Ultra SLI) (DDR3 Only)
System Memory: 4GB DDR3 Corsair at 1333MHz
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 150GB Western Digital Raptor (10K RPM) (16MB Cache) (SATA) (Extreme Speed)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Wireless Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Razer Barracuda AC-1 (Recommended)
Extreme Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 3 WindTunnel (Copper Heatpipe Heatsink & Additional Case Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Modifications: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Yes, Overclock memory timings (Includes Memory Fan Kit Installed)
Tweak Windows: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks my keyboard comes with a mouse
External Storage: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Aug 2008 at 7:59pm
I think we talked about the HD size - basically it boils down to:
1) This is game rig only. Nothing else.
2) I can always buy another rig.
3) I was trying to come in close to 3K, and I'm at like 3.2K so
4) it had to wait.

heh. Yeah, I CANNOT wait to get it. Hopefully the dunce shipping guys don't f it up.
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dude even got gaming 150GB is small...games these days are 120G+


Age of Conan=35GB
Warhammer ONline=30GB
World of Warcraft=8GB


and more to be announced! so yeah... but far from that its still a nice rig! grats!
               
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 30 Aug 2008 at 11:55am
Nickdapimp - word good point. When I run out of space, I'll just cop another drive.

Can't wait!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Sep 2008 at 9:38pm
ITS ON ITS WAY BABY! ETA Sat - heh.

I pre-ordered Stalker:Clear Sky, was suppose to come out tomorrow (Sept 5th), but looks like it got pushed back to Sept 15?

Bullsh*t!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Sep 2008 at 7:15pm
Didn't arrive SAT - still says its "en route" from somewhere in Nevada. I'm hoping it comes Tuesday (I'll be working from home that day - heh)
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lol sombody is playing with it as we speak in nevada don't forget to tell us your OC speed
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Sep 2008 at 9:04pm
DST4ME - heh. Just arrived in NJ, on its way to NY I believe tonight. I'm guessing it'll be delivered tomorrow (working from home!)

can't wait!!!! Almost a month since I ordered this rig!
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  Quote sk Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Sep 2008 at 11:18pm
Hey hey hey! It arrived today! and woah, its great!
 
I went out and bought Crysis and have been playing for a bout 4 hours straight. First off the rig is just excellent.
 
Pictures here:
 
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I'll give a more detailed write up tomorrow!!!!!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 09 Sep 2008 at 11:55pm
very nice, take a step back then the more pics, some are too close

very nice
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