**REVIEW** Considering ODE 4, but is it necessary?Post Date: 2012-07-11 |
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Anywhere from $1,200 to $2,500....if it can be justified Expectations: Decent computer that will last me at least 3 years, with moderate daily usage Usage: Will be used primarily for gaming, but nothing crazy. Mostly games like World of Warcraft, Diablo. Will also watch the occasional movie on it, use the web / email. Potential to fraps the referenced games. Special Needs: I would like a SSD in addition to a normal HD. Bluray welcome, but not necessary. Specifications: I have a 23" LCD. Off chance I could potentially get a second monitor of same size. My question is, with the above uses, would an ODE 4 be overkill for my needs? Would an ODE 3/2/1 do just as well? Edited by Vizo - 30 Aug 2012 at 8:16pm |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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Hi Vizo....Welcome to the forums. For the monitor which i assume is 1920x1080 and those games, the ODE 3 with single gtx 680 will do it just fine. If you want to game on multple monitors then the ODE 4 with sli gtx 670 would be my call, plus with lvl 3 and lvl 4 you get the SSD and blu-ray player and a better cpu cooler.
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Teemberland ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 May 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 117 |
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I was on the same boat as you Vizo. I thought about getting ODE LVL 2 prior to my purchase. But let me tell you this, I would've regretted that decision. What I end up getting is ODE LVL 4. You can't really go wrong with it.
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ablahblah ![]() DS Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2312 |
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ODE 3, SLI for a 1920x1080 monitor (I'm assuming here) is a bit overpowered.
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Core i7 920 @ 3.9Ghz Asus Sabertooth X58 EVGA GTX 570 Mushkin 6GB 1414Mhz |
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Thank you for your opinions everyone. I had a few more questions now between the ODE 3 vs. the ODE 4.
1) What is the main difference between the motherboards? Just the "thermal armor?" 2) Difference between the "performance" and the "vengeance" series ram? 3) Obviously, it seems like the biggest difference between the two is the vid cards. Are there any benchmark comparisons out there? I guess what I'm getting at is, even though the ode 4 may be a bit overpowered for my needs right now, is the value add enough to justify spending the extra $400? |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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The ODE 3's mobo does not support sli, 2x graphic cards, meaning you could never add a second Nvidia card. The ODE 4's does plus the ODE 4's Sabertooth is made up of better parts and I believe a longer warranty. 3 yr vs 5 yr.
Here's a link benching the 680 to sli 680. The test site doesn't do sli 670. The 680's have about the same performance as the 670 so the sli 680 is a bit better but very close. The difference in the memory isn't anything you'd see. Both are very good. Hope this helps.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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On the SSD, it doesnt seem like as if 120gb will be enough room once the OS is loaded a a couple games. Am I wrong on this? Also, are people aware of any issues with the corsair brand?
I had started configuring a dreadnaught with the 180gb Intel SSD, but I feel as if 16gb RAM is entirely to much and could not configure it to be lower. Sorry for the naivety, but am I missing something? |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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Start with the Dreadnought, level 2. The level 3 is the quad channel ram X79 motherboard that requires 4x 4GB ram to fill 4 memory slots. The Z77 is dual channel and can use 2x 4GB.
Click on red Expert Mode for all selections.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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you're the best bprat. thanks for all the quick responses.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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So I made the below. Gives me a little larger of a SSD, a necessary amount of RAM. Gets rid of the blu ray I won't use, and I can still upgrade to SLI if I want.
I also like the fact that the case is good for cooling purposes, as I may have to fit the case into a small area, that is not particularly open on all sides. https://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploaddreadnought.asp?id=710286 Thoughts? |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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You pretty much nailed it. Great build.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Thanks again bprat! Question about the HAF X case. Knowing that there is room at the top for another fan, is there anyway I can have one added when configuring the system? I don't see an option to add another cooling option.
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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There is no option listed for the fan. You'd have to tell them on the phone or in special instructions at bottom of config. They know the fan and it usually is the CoolerMaster MegaFlow 200 Silent fan unles they are using an equivalant..
If you keep the Vortex 240mm cpu cooler then the fan won't fit and doesn't apply. The rad for the Vortex mounts up there. |
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Asangard ![]() DS Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2209 |
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Hi Vizo,
I had DS add the extra fan to the top of my HAF X case. As bprat22 said add it to the special instructions at the bottom of the config page. DS charges $30 for the fan and instillation. I hope this helps
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Wanted to post my monitor just for clarification. I believe everything should be fine with the config I have. Am I right?
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS23WHUKFK/ZA |
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Below is what I believe I am going to go with. Between the ODEv2 lv4 and the below, which is a better choice?
Ticket Number: 710747 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,463.00 Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=710747 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard) Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar) System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 800W Corsair GS (Dual SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB (Includes PhysX) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance <b></b> H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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No contest. The ODE lvl 4 will give you much higher gaming if you moved to more gpu intense games or a higher resolution monitor. Your latest build does have a better case, the HafX, and a more reliable cpu cooler, the D14, but you are sacrificing in the graphic card area.
The single gtx 680 might be all you need, so your call. In a year or two the sli, gtx670 might be very welcome. With your build you do have the option to add another card later, if needed. But, in a year or two new cards will be out that everyone will be going for. For the needs you posted, the games and monitor , the single 680 will be great and you will have the best Hafx case and a great cooler. Tough call. |
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josephlee ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 168 |
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I vote ODE, but its like choosing between the hot blonde or the hot red hot, you can't really go wrong.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Question about a new Monitor as it relates to my build. While I am getting a new pc soon, I am going to recycle the old one and give it to my wife for some basic photo editing and minimal graphic design stuff she does for fun. That said, she'll need to take my current monitor.
What is a good, if not great, 24" monitor that is available at a decent price? (sub $300) |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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I use the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM, actaully lasy years model, and it is a very good monitor. On sale at Dell for $239 right now.
Others might chime in with their picks.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Please have a look at the below, as I was able to up my budget slightly. I plan on ordering this by end of week. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
Thanks! Ticket Number: 717887 Total Price with Instant Savings: $2,917.00 Direct Load URL: http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadsaved.asp?id=717887 Specifications: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard) Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard) Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty Edited by Vizo - 13 Aug 2012 at 7:36am |
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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Hi Vizo.. This is an easy one. That build is right on.
![]() You even grabbed the free t-shirt. Go for it and keep us updated.
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FrankW ![]() DS Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 Feb 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2254 |
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Hi Vizo,
Your last build is right on. Good job. You will be hard pressed to find a better deal than the Dell 2312HM for $239. This is an IPS monitor with a great picture. Dell also makes a U2412M that is a 24" IPS monitor. Dell has that on sale right now for $299. Frank |
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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And ordered! Below is the configuration I went with based on everyone's feedback. I'll be sure to post a review with pics whenever it arrives!
Thanks again to everyone for your help! System Configuration: Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.50 GHz (Unlocked CPU) (Quad Core) (Requires Z77 Motherboard) Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 (Intel Z77 Chipset) (Features Thermal Armor and Thermal Radar) System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested) Power Supply: 1050W Corsair Pro Silver 1050HX (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible) Expansion Bay: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (240GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 520 Series) Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition) Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x) Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Video Card(s): 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB (Includes PhysX) Add-on Card: - No Thanks Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Extreme Performance H20 Tube Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans Internal Lighting: - No Thanks Enhancements: - No Thanks Chassis Mods: - No Thanks Noise Reduction: - No Thanks LaserMark: - No Thanks CPU Boost: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard) Graphics Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) Memory Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD) Virus Protection: - No Thanks Office: - No Thanks Game: - No Thanks Display: - No Thanks Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: - No Thanks Keyboard: - No Thanks Mouse: - No Thanks External Storage: - No Thanks Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Medium) Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 10-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty |
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Asangard ![]() DS Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2209 |
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Congrats you are going to have great gaming with that rig.
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Not from Without, Therefore, the 1st step on the Holy Warrior path, Is to recognize thyself as thy 1st enemy. |
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daishi2442 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59 |
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I noticed you kicked the SSD from 120 to 240...was that intentional?
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I live my life protecting your rights, which you use to destroy mine.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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No, no lighting. No real reason why I guess, just didn't see the need.
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Asangard ![]() DS Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2209 |
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I understand on the lighting. Just wanted to make sure you didn't miss something.
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Not from Without, Therefore, the 1st step on the Holy Warrior path, Is to recognize thyself as thy 1st enemy. |
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Yup, I kicked it up based on some more games i'll be installing now, as well as possible future stuff.
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daishi2442 ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2012 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59 |
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Good to go. Sounds like you got yourself a winner.
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I live my life protecting your rights, which you use to destroy mine.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Patience, apparently, is not a virtue of mine.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Stage 5 already. Just over 24 hours.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Shipped already.
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Vizo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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Delivered! Now if it were only 5:00....
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bprat22 ![]() DS ELITE ![]() DigitalStorm East -- (Unofficially!) ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 20391 |
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You look like you might have a fever. GO HOME
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