Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 2GB OC ReviewPost Date: 2009-11-18 |
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<8) slunK parade
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Topic: Sapphire Radeon HD 5970 2GB OC Review Posted: 18 Nov 2009 at 8:29pm |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 5:03pm | |
there is barely 1 fps difference between the oc version and regular version.
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sirsiddius
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 7:03pm | |
This card is too temperamental. I cannot think of anyone who would want run this instead of 2x5870s.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 7:32pm | |
I have to agree, if I was going ati, 2 x 5870 is the way to go instead 5970, every benchmark I look at 2 x 5870 smokes 1 x 5970.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 10:46pm | |
remember the OC is 10 MHZ LOL so not really OCed.
And until the speeds equal the 5870, it will score lower.
also CC 9.12 is coming DST, it is not a miracle but a solid 10% increase across the board for the 5XXX line, some games alot more, some not, this is not from my Birdy, this is from a different source, call it the turtle. lol
ATI did this cause they were worried about Fermi coming out in Jan... but we all know that is not happening.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 10:55pm | |
you live in a zoo or something, lot animals talking to you these days.
so even ati knows hat Fermi is coming in JAN so lets recap, you, the birdy and turtle all think you know its not happening and Me, ATI, and the rest of the web think it is I was waiting for you to come and say the oc is moderate and that is what I figured, but again you also tend to think everybody knows how to oc their gpus like you. plus these are stock speeds, by the time you oc the 5970 so that it matches the speeds of 5870, you are producing much more heat then 2 x 5870, which everybody's system is not equipt to handle like your systems are. and last, if you want to be fair, you have to raise the speed of the 5870 to the same extent you raised the 5970, and if you do that then the cf 5870 will beat the 5970 again. last I like to say both ati and nvidia claim anywhere from a 8% to 50% increase in certain games, every time they release new drivers.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 11:05pm | |
only rebuttle, the 5970 can OC the same as the 5870.. Assuming you can power the 5970, because of the power connection limitation, kind of a rare limiter, and assuming you know what the fu$# you are doing . I can explain if needed.
And turtle may be wrong, but fromwhat I have seen with beta 9.12, they seem like the real deal, and my little birdy is allways right DST, he doesn't lie to me because there are 100+ remington shotguns and many pallets of ammo waiting for him if he lies.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 11:16pm | |
Well we shall see by feb
but let say you oc them both to the max and its the same, you are stilling putting out lot more heat then 2 x 5870, explain to us again why the 5970 is clocked lower at stock speeds |
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venom
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2009 at 2:55am | |
I think it is clocked lower due to the PCI-E Max TDP of 300w. I heard that somewhere but cant remember where.
I sadly had to give up my 5870, so I am going to wait for a 5970 or 5950. I would have had a 5970 right now but it sold out in less than 24hrs on NewEgg. |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2009 at 8:36am | |
Venom is correct the TDP on the 5970 is 294 watts. to be compliant for pcie2.0 the card has to bee 300w or less.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2009 at 8:14pm | |
Here is a new review that actually put a mild OC on the 5970, and you can see it did amazing things with a little OCing, add another 150Mhz to that, with a chip that wasn't bottlenecking it in a lot of the games, and the performance would be pretty decent, then add for optimized drivers... hmmm.. Fermi GTX 380 will surely beat the 5870, by 20% about, but I don't see how it will beat the 5970..
I have seen the dual Fermi plans, so there is one in the works for sure... what a beast lol
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<8) slunK parade
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 2009 at 10:38pm | |
i still think theyre getting to far ahead of themselves, only someone who wants to use Eyefinity or a bencher is going to need this much power anyway, the normal gamer will have more than enough power with the 5870.
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 2009 at 12:42pm | |
if your res is 1920x1200 or less, yes I agree, for the 2560x1600 crowd, they can use/need a 5970 for sure. Newer games will certainly put a greater load on the GPU's, but it seems that most developers are focusing on console games instead of PC games, and the next gen consoles are not due for 2-3 more years? I think.. So I doubt we will see a lot of games that will need 2 5870's or more for 22" or less monitors till then.
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OsandmanO
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Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jan 2010 at 10:33pm | |
I am looking at 2048X1152 as a norm and am planning on 3 of them so I am going with the 5970 |
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There will ALWAYS be room for upgrades.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jan 2010 at 12:16am | |
you would be better off with 2 x 5870.
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OsandmanO
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 12:37am | |
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There will ALWAYS be room for upgrades.
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Kinesis
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 12:44am | |
May want to consider waiting for the 5870 6 port edition,it's going to be single board 2gb vram,supposedly be able to push up to 6 30 " monitors(7680x1600) I canceled 2 5970's to wait for them(unless info on the fermi's comes out and trumps the 5870 six edition) only problem is they are overdue,and info is scarce,ATI maybe holding them back to compete with nVidia's Fermi(rumored to have 512 bus and 2gb vram) here's a link with some info(foreign web page translated) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=www.pcpop.com/doc/0/458/458240.shtml&rurl=translate.google.com Edited by Kinesis - 15 Jan 2010 at 12:58am |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 9:53am | |
the bus change won't happen till the ATI refresh, think 5890. if at all on the 58XX line, might be the 68XX series.
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kainhall
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 1:30pm | |
my little frog told me that ATI's drivers are going to allow for over 5 gpus, all running and helping out your FPS. given this frog works for microsoft, and microsoft has to release updates so vista does not fu#$ with the cards, i think its creditible. dont hold me to it. o and wtf is pcie 2.1,,,, NO motherboards have 2.1, i know i can run it in a 2.0, just wondering whats different
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steam friends is kainhall
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Kinesis
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 1:58pm | |
I meant the (Nvidia)Fermi's were/are rumored the have the 512 bus,not the 5870 six edition |
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justin.kerr
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 2:13pm | |
I the first Fermi will not have 512 bus. 384 bit bus is what it will/does have
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OsandmanO
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Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2010 at 9:33pm | |
Yeah I was interested in the 6 port version as well. But I dont really want to wait that long for them. If anything I will upgrade to them when they become available,if I can afford it after this...lol. Then sell the ones I have or make another Rig of my own on the ones I have.
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There will ALWAYS be room for upgrades.
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