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Post Date: 2009-11-18
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    Posted: 18 Nov 2009 at 8:29pm
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/25628-sapphire-radeon-hd-5970-2gb-oc-edition-review.html
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there is barely 1 fps difference between the oc version and regular version.


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This card is too temperamental. I cannot think of anyone who would want run this instead of 2x5870s.

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I have to agree, if I was going ati, 2 x 5870 is the way to go instead 5970, every benchmark I look at 2 x 5870 smokes 1 x 5970.

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remember the OC is 10 MHZ LOL so not really OCed.
And until the speeds equal the 5870, it will score lower.
also CC 9.12 is coming DST, it is not a miracle but a solid 10% increase across the board for the 5XXX line, some games alot more, some not, this is not from my Birdy, this is from a different source, call it the turtle. lol
ATI did this  cause they were worried about Fermi coming out in Jan... but we all know that is not happening. Embarrassed
 
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you live in a zoo or something, lot animals talking to you these days.

so even ati knows hat Fermi is coming in JAN



so lets recap, you, the birdy and turtle all think you know its not happening and Me, ATI, and the rest of the web think it is

I was waiting for you to come and say the oc is moderate

and that is what I figured, but again you also tend to think everybody knows how to oc their gpus like you.

plus these are stock speeds, by the time you oc the 5970 so that it matches the speeds of 5870, you are producing much more heat then 2 x 5870, which everybody's system is not equipt to handle like your systems are.

and last, if you want to be fair, you have to raise the speed of the 5870 to the same extent you raised the 5970, and if you do that then the cf 5870 will beat the 5970 again.

last I like to say both ati and nvidia claim anywhere from a 8% to 50% increase in certain games, every time they release new drivers.

New in Version 191.07
Adds support for OpenGL 3.2 for GeForce 8, 9, 100, and 200-series GPUs and ION GPUs.
Accelerates performance in several gaming applications. The following are examples of improvements measured with version 191.07 drivers vs. version 190.62 drivers (results will vary depending on your GPU, system configuration, and game settings):
Up to 12% performance increase in ARMA 2
Up to 8% performance increase in Batman: Arkham Asylum with GPU PhysX enabled
Up to 50% performance increase in Call of Juarez: Blood in Bound with SLI enabled
Up to 14% performance increase in Fallout 3 (indoor scenes) with antialiasing enabled
Up to 10% performance increase in Far Cry 2 (DX9 version) with antialiasing enabled
Up to 34% performance increase in Prototype with antialiasing enabled
Adds SLI support for Aion, Darkfall, Dawn of Magic 2: Time of Shadows, Dreamkiller, Fuel, Majesty 2: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim, Need for Speed: Shift and more.
Includes numerous bug fixes, including the following key fix (additional bug fixes can be found in the release notes on the documentation tab): For graphics cards supporting multiple clock states, 3D clocks correctly return to 2D clocks after exiting a 3D application.
Users without US English operating systems can select their language and download the International driver



New in Version 182.50
Boosts performance in several 3D applications. The following are examples of improvements measured with Release 182 WHQL drivers vs. Release 181.22 WHQL drivers (results will vary depending on your GPU, system configuration, and game settings):
Up to 8% performance increase in Fallout 3 at high resolution and AA.
Up to 10% performance increase in F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin
Up to 9% performance increase in Half-Life 2 at high resolution with AA.
Up to 11% performance increase in Left 4 Dead at high resolution with AA.
Up to 10% performance increase in Race Driver: GRID at high resolution and AA.
Includes full support for OpenGL 3.0 on GeForce 8-series, 9-series, and 200-series GPUs.
Automatically installs the new PhysX System Software version 9.09.0203.


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only rebuttle, the 5970 can OC the same as the 5870.. Assuming you can power the 5970, because of the power connection limitation, kind of a rare limiter, and assuming you know what the fu$# you are doing . Ouch I can explain if needed.
And turtle may be wrong, but fromwhat  I have seen with beta 9.12, they seem like the real deal, and my little birdy is allways right DST, he doesn't lie to me because there are 100+ remington shotguns and many pallets of ammo waiting for him if he lies. SmileSmile
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Nov 2009 at 11:16pm
Well we shall see by feb

but let say you oc them both to the max and its the same, you are stilling putting out lot more heat then 2 x 5870, explain to us again why the 5970 is clocked lower at stock speeds

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I think it is clocked lower due to the PCI-E Max TDP of 300w.  I heard that somewhere but cant remember where. 

I sadly had to give up my 5870, so I am going to wait for a 5970 or 5950.

I would have had a 5970 right now but it sold out in less than 24hrs on NewEgg.
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Venom is correct the TDP on the 5970 is 294 watts. to be compliant for pcie2.0 the card has to bee 300w or less.
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Posts: 5084 		  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 23 Nov 2009 at 8:14pm
Here is a new review that actually put a mild OC on the 5970, and you can see it did amazing things with a little  OCing,  add another 150Mhz to that, with a chip that wasn't bottlenecking it in a lot of the games, and the performance would be pretty decent, then add for optimized drivers... hmmm.. Fermi GTX 380 will surely beat the 5870, by 20% about, but I don't see how it will beat the 5970.. 
I have seen the dual Fermi plans, so there is one in the works for sure... what a beast lol
 
 
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i still think theyre getting to far ahead of themselves,  only someone who wants to use Eyefinity or a bencher is going to need this much power anyway, the normal gamer will have more than enough power with the 5870.
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if your res is 1920x1200 or less, yes I agree, for the 2560x1600 crowd, they can use/need a 5970 for sure.

Newer games will certainly put a greater load on the GPU's, but it seems that most developers are focusing on console games instead of PC games, and the next gen consoles are not due for 2-3 more years? I think.. So I doubt we will see a lot of games that will need 2 5870's or more for 22" or less monitors till then. 
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I am looking at 2048X1152 as a norm and am planning on 3 of them so I am going with the 5970
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you would be better off with 2 x 5870.

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Originally posted by DST4ME

you would be better off with 2 x 5870.
ATM...I agree with you. But I am looking down the road a few years when games start using all four GPU's and not just 3,most but not all the time. I dont upgrade very often and want to "Future Resistant" my DS rig as much as I can. In the past this has done me well. I am not going to change if it works for me. I been thinking  on this machine setup for 3 years. Clap
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Originally posted by OsandmanO

I am looking at 2048X1152 as a norm and am planning on 3 of them so I am going with the 5970



May want to consider waiting for the 5870 6 port edition,it's going to be single board 2gb vram,supposedly be able to push up to 6 30 " monitors(7680x1600)

I canceled 2 5970's to wait for them(unless info on the fermi's comes out and trumps the 5870 six edition)

only problem is they are overdue,and info is scarce,ATI maybe holding them back to
compete with nVidia's Fermi(rumored to have 512 bus and 2gb vram)

here's a link with some info(foreign web page translated)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=www.pcpop.com/doc/0/458/458240.shtml&rurl=translate.google.com


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the bus change won't happen till the ATI refresh, think 5890. if at all on the 58XX line, might be the 68XX series.
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my little frog told me that ATI's drivers are going to allow for over 5 gpus, all running and helping out your FPS. given this frog works for microsoft, and microsoft has to release updates so vista does not fu#$ with the cards, i think its creditible. dont hold me to it. o and wtf is pcie 2.1,,,, NO motherboards have 2.1, i know i can run it in a 2.0, just wondering whats different
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Originally posted by justin.kerr

the bus change won't happen till the ATI refresh, think 5890. if at all on the 58XX line, might be the 68XX series.


I meant the (Nvidia)Fermi's were/are rumored the have the 512 bus,not the 5870 six edition
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I the first Fermi will not have 512 bus. 384 bit bus is what it will/does have Ouch
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Yeah I was interested in the 6 port version as well. But I dont really want to wait that long for them. If anything I will upgrade to them when they become available,if I can afford it after this...lol. Then sell the ones I have or make another Rig of my own on the ones I have.
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