Slade Case and Fan QuestionsPost Date: 2016-07-30 |
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EdgeCrusher
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Topic: Slade Case and Fan QuestionsPosted: 30 Jul 2016 at 12:37pm |
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I have a few questions regarding the case and fans for the Slade system hopefully someone at DS or someone who owns the case can clarify.
First I would like to say to DS the While I think the Slade Info page (the one with videos and reviews etc.) is great but I would also like a more itemized spreadsheet like info page. I'm referring to the one you get when you click "more info" on a case inside the configurator. Problem is the case shown inside the Slade 2 configurator is not the same case. It shows the Corsair Carbide 400q which is a very different case. You may want to consider updating that area of the page as it gave me a bit of confusion. First, I'd like to know if by placing fans on the inside of the side panel mounts will interfere with the video card, PCI cards or PSU? If it does not leave enough room on the inside of the mounts can you place the fans on the outside of panel on the mounts? while still hiding the cords? Second, can the corsair h100i 240 radiator be mounted inside the case venting out or only in? which areas can the radiator actually be mounted to vent out of the case just the top or can the front work as well? Third, How many total fans can be mounted in the case (including radiator)? Also is the below airflow setup possible and is it the best way to do it (would DS do it this way): 2 intake fans on the front, 2 intake fans on the side, 2 exhaust fans on radiator at top and 1 exhaust fan in back? Lastly, Does DS have any performance type fans that are non-LED and neutral colored (black, white) or is the only option the corsair fans with the red trim on them? |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 2:26pm |
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So which case are you referring to then?
Heat rises so the best config for a rad IMHO is always on top, because you don't want head in the case, so when the rad is on top, the head from the rad will exit from the top immediately and not go thru the system. The less heat in the system the better. Depending on the case the rad can be installed in different places and if you have very good airflow then the head from it won't matter. As a rule I personally when I build system put the rad on the top with it blowing the air out. Again I'm not sure which case you are referring to but if they can't do the side window fans then its more of an cutting the material issue rather then space issue from what I understand. You can always request whatever fans you like to use if they are not in the config page, it will probably cost a little more to do so. But if you want good airflow then go with a case with good airflow off the bat, instead of spending extra $120 or so trying to make a case with less airflow have more. Let me know the case you are talking about and I will answer your questions as far as fan placement. I think you are talking about the Carbide but I want to be sure. |
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EdgeCrusher
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 3:33pm |
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No, I'm certainly not referring to the Corsair Carbide 400q which is not the case they are actually using in the default pictured Slade 2. I'm referring to the "noise cancelling" one. The one that is shown in the case video on the Slade info page when you select Slade but before the configurator. The page with all the flashy specs and reviews etc. It has no window, but a removable side fan panel.
The real Slade case is completely different. It has hidden side panels so no, its not about cutting any new holes. I'm asking about the space inside the case and clearance between the fan and the GPU and PSU. I was planning on putting the radiator on the top, facing out as I was asking about in my "third" area in the last post. That is the setup I'm basically wondering if it will work. (IE will the space between the top of the case and motherboard allow it)(I'm assuming yes though) I am aware of special ordering fans. I was asking a specific question of what DS offers and what the Corsairs fans actually look like (I.E are they red trimmed or is that just a default picture) The rest of what you stated about the case price and airflow is irrelevant. The case they show in the Slade video is good airflow. I would name it better if I could find its name. The incorrect one is the Carbide which IS a worse case on airflow it would seem to me. I appreciate your enthusiasm to quickly post in my threads but as I stated in my opening sentence in the OP I would like to hear from someone in DS with the knowledge of the case specs and can clarify the mismatch of cases or someone who owns a Slade build that can answer the question. Thank you. Edited by EdgeCrusher - 30 Jul 2016 at 3:36pm |
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FrankW
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 3:44pm |
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Hi EagleCrusher,
The currant Slade does use the Corsair 400Q case. The Slade you are looing at in the Reviews are for the old Slade that used the Corsair 500D case. I don't think the 400Q has the side fan option in the door for the Slade. The 400Q comes with a single 140mm fan in the front and a single 120mm exhaust fan in the rear. You can mount a AIO 240 rad in the top but a 280 or 320 has to be mounted in the front. The fans on the top can be arranged for intake or exhaust. You have to be careful not to have too much exhaust or you can create dust problems. DS can balance out your fans for the best configuration. The only reason to pick the Slade case is for its sound damping. If you add a bunch of fans you will loose a lot of the quietness of the case. Frank |
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EdgeCrusher
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 4:07pm |
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Well, thank you Frank for the response and the case name. I looked it up from there and I think its actually called the 550d.
If what you say is true then this is EXTREAMLY disappointing news for me. The big flashy page and video showcasing the Slade case is basically a lie or to somebody who wasn't paying attention on the configurator page would get the ol' "bait and switch." I thought the confusion was the other way around, meaning the 550d is what you get but the pictured 400q was wrong. This is a major problem. The 400q is not nearly good enough. I was only interested in the slade for that case. That 550d case is in fact the only one I find appealing on the site. In another thread I said I had a thing for Silverstone cases or any case with a solid, heavy, not flashy case. This is the only suitable professional looking option IMO. My liking it has little to do with the sound dampening and that is certainly NOT the ONLY reason to get that case. To that point though I may be getting the DS hydrolux fan controller to automate the fan speeds when not needed at full speed. So I realize that filling the case up with fans is less silent but the case COMES with those slots, I'm just using all the ones I see available, not trying to mod the case or anything. I'll state it again from the top. I would like to place the airflow like this: * 1x 240 rad on top venting out with its 2 fans. * 1x exhaust fan in back * 2x intakes in front * 2x intakes in side That setup would have positive air pressure and good flow and basically what you both repeated, so I guess we are in no disagreement there. I wasn't asking about HOW to create good airflow as much as I was asking if that setup would work in the 550d specifically or if something would have to be changed to accommodate space, case design, etc. ...but if its the 400q that is the actual Slade case then all that is pointless because that is smaller sized and far less capable case and I will not be getting it. I guess if what you say is true Frank then next I will have to see if DS has a few of the old 550d laying around they will let me use or something. I felt like I was getting close to a final config but this might send me back to step one. *PS. Its EdgeCrusher, Frank, not EagleCrusher, that would be a crime against an endangered species. ;) Edited by EdgeCrusher - 30 Jul 2016 at 4:43pm |
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EdgeCrusher
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 4:40pm |
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So now that I know what the name of the originally pictured case I was referring to, the Corsair 550d, I have been able to get most of the technical specs I originally was wondering about. I can now watch review videos etc. and it has even better space, airflow and fan options then I thought, which is good but if DS is no longer offering it then they really need to clarify their Slade info.
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DST4ME
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 6:40pm |
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You can speical order whatever parts you like, if you want to use the 550d then have one sent to DS so they can use that to build the system, just check with them first make sure you understand all the terms that comes with ordering a customized part and that they can do the side fans and etc.
Personally I would just go with the velox case, great airflow,. correct if I'm wrong but is this not what you are looking for pretty much? keep in mind those 3 front fans are pushing in major air: 3x 140mm front intake fans, 2x 120mm/2x 140mm top, 1x 140mm motherboard tray, 2x 140mm right side door, 1x 120mm rear exhaust fan. keep in mind I'm saying pick the velox case and not velox build. Edited by DST4ME - 30 Jul 2016 at 6:41pm |
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EdgeCrusher
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 7:44pm |
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No thank you. The velox is not what I'm looking for. First off it doesn't have 2 optical drive bays I will need to move my 2 from the previous computer that died. Also, I need a clean and professional looking case and the velox isn't doing it for me. The Silverstone tj03 I got from DS 6 years ago is and the 550d I was inquiring about would fit the bill but If the 550d is no longer an option then I guess I no longer like any cases on the site.
DST4ME, you have told me to "special order the part" so many times to so many different questions that it feels like patronizing now. I told you I'm interested in doing that at the moment. Please read my posts more carefully before responding, I'm not really taking others' personal preferences of what they would do differently in this thread, that was what my slade configurator post is for. I'm trying to inquire about a specific questions about a specific case that was/is offered by DS. If you want to watch the DS video on the 550d I'm talking about and do the research on it like I have then you will see it has a lot of other things to offer too that are unique to it. For example, the magnetic dust shields, which would be very useful for me in the environment it will be in. If I seem a little short with you, its partially because I have been typing all these posts from a small touch screen tablet since the main PC is down and some of these posts I have had to type multiple times because of accidental button presses etc. on this thing (that's certainly not your fault). Also partially because I feel very limited in the parts and configs I have to choose from compared to last time I bought a PC here (also not your fault). The brands I like and the styles I like are no longer offered it appears. But partially because I feel like most of my responses are to you, repeating what I said previously, clarifying something I stated previously, or explaining again that I'm not interested in special ordering so and so part. That all being out of the way, I seemed to have found the answers I needed through other methods. Apparently the 550d is no longer offered by the slade build and the info page for it is incorrect with the team aware and apparently working on changing it (but not in time to save this thread from being written). So in the end, I may have to shop around for the next computer or go back to building them myself as at this point I'd be spending how much just to separately ship all these special orders I would need to DS. |
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DST4ME
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Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 8:14pm |
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@EdgeCrushe, if it feels like you are repeating yourself to me its probably because you are, and I do appologise for that, problem is that we are helping on so many different topics and threads that its impossible for me to deal with each situation by trying to remember the person, we can't possibly keep track of that many people in that amount of time.
For that reason I deal with each topic rather then the person, and when you open multiple threads, then you could find yourself repeating yourself to me or vise versa. So I hope you understand where I'm coming from, I'm not ignoring you I just didn't recognize the name as that is not what I was going with. Now that I recognize you needless to say I feel foolish telling you to special order stuff, since you already mentioned you are not comfortable doing that. I really think at the end your best bet to get what you want is build your own. I agree that for what you are looking for the base options here are not going to make you happy. |
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FrankW
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Posted: 31 Jul 2016 at 5:59am |
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Hi EdgeCrusher,
Yes, I did mean to say the 550D. I suggest you take a look at the Corsair 450D. DS sells it as the Digital Storm Coridium. It is a great case with very good airflow. It will give you the fan setup you are wanting. Look at a Apollo build and select change case to find the Coridium in the case list. It is a mid-sized case. Frank ![]() Edited by FrankW - 31 Jul 2016 at 6:01am |
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EdgeCrusher
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Posted: 31 Jul 2016 at 6:27pm |
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Thanks Frank. I did see the Coridium, before I even looked into the slade one, and yes its the closest thing to what I'm looking for and your right, its not a bad case I guess but I'm going to tell you why I don't like it anyways because, well, I have little else to do but be sour on these forums until I get a working PC again.
I liked the hidden fans on the front of the 550d by way of the door and hidden vents. The Coridium you can see right in the case if you look at it from the front. Its actually the reason why I don't like most of the cases here. I don't sit next to the computer on a desk glancing over from gaming every few seconds to drool over my video cards illuminated in neons like most, I do what you might call living room gaming. I game on a large screen TV and sit away from the computer. The computer also is a media center PC that Ill be watching movies from. The extra sound dampening, stealth nature and no windows etc. was perfect for not distracting from the screen in a dark room. Its not just that I don't NEED to see what's in my computer, I'd would actually prefer not to. Maybe I'm the weirdo exception to the rule on this site but I don't want to see all the blinking LEDs and Illuminated brand tags, fans etc. This computer will need to function but not be distracting or gaudy. In other words what I'm looking for is a Cadillac clean off the lot, black and chrome, sleek and stylish. Not a Honda Civic that has a plastic body kit, neons, strobe lights and hydraulic wheels. If your asking yourself well why am I here if you don't want a certain degree of flashyness, well, I can still appreciate good cable management, quality assembly and testing even if I'm not interested in LED fans and neon Hydrolux colored tubes running all over. Also 6 years ago when I was here they seemed to accommodate the "Cadillac" look I was going for better and I'm just wondering why I'm the only one seemingly who is still looking for it. The Coridium is smaller, has less features, is built less sturdy, has less fan options, no doors or covers to hide the fans and none of the cool dust filters. Even though the sound dampening features of the 550d wasn't a priority it still had rubber gaskets everywhere and vibration dampening everything. So after all that its quite a disappointment compared to the 550d. Especially since I got myself hyped for it then basically right before ordering realized he situation. Believe me, I realize the 550d is not a perfect case but I'm just having a hard time not comparing all these other cases against it now and to me they are falling short. Maybe, I'll get past it and you guys won't have to hear me complaining any more. If you even got to the end of this. I wouldn't blame you here since I'm practically just whining now. |
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Posted: 01 Aug 2016 at 2:17am |
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Hi EdgeCrusher...... Considering you have to look at and live with whatever case you pick, for years, it makes sense to want what you want. Another option, although a little more expensive, is to buy and send to DS whatever case you find the perfect fit. They will charge an extra fee, but it is an option, none the less.
Good luck and let us know what you go with.
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FrankW
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Posted: 01 Aug 2016 at 5:26am |
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Hi EdgeCrusher,
It seems that unless you go with the 400Q you will have to special order a case. Take a look at the Corsair 600Q. It meets your requirements for quite and plain with no windows. Also has the slotted intake like the 400Q and is a steel case. Just something to look at. Have you looked at the DS Bolt 3? It is a nice size for an media center computer. It has a side window but any side window can be made dark with Auto Window Film. You might get DS to cover the side window with sound deadening foam on the inside. Not sure how that would look. Just throwing out some ideas. Frank ![]() Edited by FrankW - 01 Aug 2016 at 5:29am |
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