Solid State Drives and GamingPost Date: 2008-03-29 |
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redcut
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Topic: Solid State Drives and GamingPosted: 29 Mar 2008 at 3:36pm |
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New expensive hard drive substitute called solid state drive is hitting the community of game machines.
What's the low down?
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cronedog
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008 at 8:19pm |
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solid state drives have the following advantages
1) Random access time is 100 times faster 2) They consume less power (more important for notebooks) 3) They are shock and temperature resistant (also more important for notebooks) disadvantage 1) To get similar read/write speeds to conventional HDD, you will spend a massive premium (example, $6000 for a 128GB) note: Current tech like wear leveling will prevent premature burnout of cells. What does this translate to in real terms? 1) Windows will boot much faster 2) Applications and game levels will load faster 3) When windows memory management goes to the page file, it will be almost as fast as ram. (Dont quote me on this but I think regular HDD are 50 times slower then ram, and flash based ones are more like 10 times slower then ram) |
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skyR
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Posted: 29 Mar 2008 at 9:27pm |
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SSDs are nice but too expensive.
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cronedog
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 10:33am |
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Which is why I am building my own. Idea coming from here
http://www.guru3d.com/article/memory/506/ I went with a slightly more expensive CF to IDE adaptor to have it sit all nice and pretty in a 3.5 in bay. |
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 12:22pm |
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6000 for a hard drive that loads faster?
think of the rig you could get with that.
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Tyler Lowe
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 3:48pm |
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I was thinking that installing 8GB of System RAM and running on a 64bit OS would pretty much eliminate the need for swap file use while gaming at a tiny fraction of the price.
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cronedog
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 5:22pm |
That is correct. I read an article where they did this, I think on tomshardware. My motivations are a) I'm a poor college kid, paying for the new OS and 6GB of ram would cost me. b) This would be a neat project. I got my 4GB compact flash, the adaptor and a new rounded IDE cable for $90 bucks. The advantage to doing this, rather then getting 8GB of ram would be a) If you buy a bigger compact flash card, you can load your OS on it, making boot up much much faster. b) A larger card could have individual games on it. Take a game like witcher, that has very long load times. Install it on this hard drive and make them load in fractions of a second. I have a bit too much to do here, but in a few days I'll update this with a report of how well it works out. |
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 at 5:50pm |
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Ive been hearing rumors though that having 8GB of ram seems to make your system fairly unstable. I was considering having 8GB of ram myself till i started reading up on it. Plus DS only has 8GB of 800 ram =(.
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bucephalusbaghdad
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Posted: 01 Apr 2008 at 8:48pm |
I think the typical reason for this is that motherboards cant support the voltage required to run all of that ram at high speeds, or at all. At least, voltage requirements is the only real reason Ive ever seen for not being able to use 8gb of ram on a motherboard that supports it. Also, theres nothing wrong with 800mhz. The speed difference isnt that incredible between that and the 1066, and the fact that youve got 8 gigs of it kinda peaks the enthusiasm meter anyway. ...I dunno. |
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SunfighterLC
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Posted: 01 Apr 2008 at 8:57pm |
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Yeah, im still teasing around with the idea of 8GB of ram. Just to be like...hey i got 8 gb of ram...and 2 GX2's. And my windows experence monitor says 5.9!!!
seriously though, i think ill start with 2GB of 1066 and improve if needed myself. Ram isnt too hard to do. Usually..
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cronedog
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Posted: 01 Apr 2008 at 11:51pm |
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I thought you guys might like to see how my project turned out.
Building: I got the adapter mounted into the 3.5in bay but the distance between the master/slave wasn't great enough to go from the cd rom drive to the device. I very much so recommend that you get the sata version if you undertake this project. So it is dangling all ghetto like...until I buy some velcro straps to attact it to my case. (Note I just super glued my mesh drive bay covers on...if I didn't do this, I could prolly hook the cd rom to the bottom bay and it might have reached.) I gathered the following stats from the program HD tach. Random Acess/Avg read DSO 250GB 13.3ms/55.6mbps RaptorX 8.3ms/75.5mbps USB flash stick .6ms/28.9mbps Built SSD 1ms/43.6mbps Note that the read speed of the SSD is constant throughout. I installed an older game, hitman 2 on it, and the game loaded near instantly, both for level load and startup. This went so well that when I get a job I might purchase a sata version and put a 16GB card on it. Edited by cronedog - 01 Apr 2008 at 11:52pm |
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