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  Quote A7X-Shane Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: Stable or Not?
    Posted: 12 May 2009 at 12:20am
I have pushed my overclock on my own from 3.5Ghz way up to 4Ghz. I have the i7 940 on LC. Prime 95 can run for about an hour, then BSOD at around 70C. From what I understand, I may be wrong, Prime 95 pushes the CPU a lot more than any game or program typically will. I've run a few stability tests of my own though that are essentially the basics of my computer usage.

Games
Crysis: Max settings for two hours - No Crashes/Issues
FarCry 2: Max settings for two hours - No Crashes/Issues
Left 4 Dead: Max settings for three hours - No Crashes/Issues
Mirrors Edge: Max Settings for two hours - No Crashes/Issues

Other
Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 7.0: Rendering/Exporting two hours of 1080P content - No Crashes/Issues
Autodesk 3ds Max 2009: Rendering/Exporting 50 very detailed models - No Crashes/Issues

Idle Temp (after an hour of nothing demanding): ~39C
Load Temp (after anything I listed above): ~55C

I know what I have done to 'test' my rig is not very professional as some would say, but I see zero problems so far and it has been just over a month.

So your opinion please.. Stable or not Stable? Should I keep my precious 4.0 or should I lower the OC up until Prime will agree with me?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 12:24am
If its stabel for your use and the temps are below 80c, then you are good to go

Edited by DST4ME - 12 May 2009 at 12:25am
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  Quote A7X-Shane Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 1:38am
Okay thanks! It took a lot of time to get to 4Ghz and to back-track would really suck. Especially being at 4.0 for a month now, going back would really seem like a down-grade. I love the performance boost in comparison to 3.5! Don't get me wrong, 3.5Ghz is already very fast, but the additional time saving when it comes to rendering movies and such just blows my mind. Doing the math now, I figure I have a 26.75% higher clock than stock speed. I love it.

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By the way, thanks DST4ME for the quick reply. I watch the forums a lot and I knew you would probably be first to answer. Keep doing what your doing, I'm sure everyone appreciates the advice, help and knowledge you provide.


Edited by A7X-Shane - 12 May 2009 at 1:41am
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  Quote MyNameisBrian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 2:24am
Those are really nice temperatures for that OC! :P

Just curious, what LC components are you using?! D:
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  Quote A7X-Shane Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 3:57am
MyNameisBrian: Do not forget that the load temp I posted is not 'Full Load'. As I mentioned, Prime 95 got it up in the 70's. The load temp I posted (~50C) was just the high temp that I got after hours of gaming and/or rendering videos etc.. I do stand by that ~50C (48-52) mark though. I've never seen it higher than that with the only exception being when I try to run Prime.

I have the regular FrostBite System that DS offers (CPU only).
An extra thought.. The A/C in my room is always set at 68F (20C). I have the TJ09 case, with the fan upgrade as well. So, lots of cold air is always being brought inside the case.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 5:04am
Its your room temp that is low, that makes the biggest difference in one's temp. 50c is a great load temp to have, IMO that is your full load temp, cause its after an hour of your using it and gaming with it, so it is your full load temps. Also to get the best OC for you, you have to be fine with where you land, otherwise you will have an agenda, and that agenda might make you end up with not the best OC you can have, so in short even if you have to go 3.8GHz you will not notice the difference too much and its not really a step down.

having said all that, keep an eye out for things and don't ignore any signs you might see, if system starts to not be stable then just drop to 3.8 and see how that goes for you, but it sounds like you are going to be fine and thank you for your kind words
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  Quote Mezzeron Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 2:11pm

What did you do to increase your OC?  If you just upped the QPI and didnt touch anything else and achieved 4.0 thats quite amazing.  IF you REALLY want to get it prime stable, and with your temps it should be fairly easy, let me know what your memory divider is at, what kind of memory and speed it is, what your vcore and cpu vtt voltagews are.  E-Leet can show you pretty much all of that. 

 
I have a older stepping C0 I7 920 that i have at 3.9 stable.  Took alot of work, and I learned quite a bit along the way that may help you out a bit.
 
The hardcore peeps will say its not stable unless its 10 hours prime stable, and 10 passes of linX stable.  I just did prime and Im ok.  Tems are warm but acceptable.  But if you can run everything you ant and do wahtever you want you will never notice anything.  Especially if temps are great, then you will have no worries.  Its not likely you will ever do anything to tax your system like prime does.
 
Gratz on 4.0 !
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 May 2009 at 2:36pm
24 hour prime 95, then 50 passes of Linx.. as long as temps are under 85c and everything passes, then the cpu OC is stable. 1 hour of prime is far from stable. I would not even run that for just benching. lol
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  Quote EveryFlowerFlow Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 18 May 2009 at 10:16pm

Originally posted by justin.kerr

24 hour prime 95, then 50 passes of Linx.. as long as temps are under 85c and everything passes, then the cpu OC is stable. 1 hour of prime is far from stable. I would not even run that for just benching. lol



This man (or woman lol) is correct . If you don't have any issues or random blue screens though, knock yourself out.

Edited by EveryFlowerFlow - 18 May 2009 at 10:26pm
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  Quote A7X-Shane Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:06am
Well thanks guys. I do understand that my 4Ghz is NOT technically 100% stable. However, in my use I never receive errors, blue-screens, crashes, or anything as well as my temps staying in fair range. I have decided though, the first step out of line I will be jumping backwards to 3.8 no questions asked. For now though, Ermm!
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 3:28am
good choice IMO
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 8:45am
I agree good choice backing it down a bit. Just get it 100% stable. Just because you don't have any BSOD or random freeze ups does not mean stable. If you fail prime, Linx, it means it is not getting the right answers to the problems, so, over time you will corrupt your operating system, apps, games ect.. Make sure you are 100% stable for a 24/7 PC!
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  Quote Bill the Cat Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 9:21am
Seems to me stability is a function of the consequences of an error. If your system crashes once every few days playing Crysis, you could call that 100% stable. If your system crashes every few days and erases your term paper, or pays $10,000 to the electric company, or initiates a global thermonuclear war, then not so much.


Edited by Bill the Cat - 19 May 2009 at 10:16am
3.6 GHz E6850,       4 GB RAM, GTS 250,   TJ9, Win 7 64-bit
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  Quote justin.kerr Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 10:06am
CPU overclock stability, and complete system stability are 2 different things. Also driver capatiblity, and other software/hardware conflicts may cause crashes/freeze ups.
That is why, to me, it is important to know that my CPU OC, Ram speed and timings are 100% stable, and my CPU, NB, V regs, temps are good. So I can diagnose any problems I may have with apps, or games.
Once passed my stability program, my main rig, and my gaming rig have never once had a crash, freeze up, BSOD. Even after left on for weeks straight folding. But thats is not to say that if I install a new game, app,  driver, or hardware that I couldn't have a problem then..
I have had sytems fail prime 95 after 20 hours before. Also have had some pass 24 hours of prime 95 and 50 passes of Linx, then fail OCCT. Also GPU overclocks, and temps can be the culprit.
Also just wanted to throw in the OCCT PSU test is a great final test. My wifes old computer, passed 24 hours of Prime 95, 50 passes of Linx, 8 hours of OCCT cpu test, Pcmark vantage, 3Dmark vantage, furmark then failed the OCCT PSU test. lol, the test overheated the NB. easy fix, added a fan. Ouch
We could go on forever on this, lol.
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