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Struggling Here - Where is my value

Post Date: 2012-05-14
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    Posted: 14 May 2012 at 12:13pm
So recently I've been searching high and low as I'm about to buy my next big system. I wasn't planning on building it myself, but this afternoon I pieced out everything from my DS build and I'm a bit surprised to see the numbers.
 
My $10,000 DS build I was looking at (Maxed Out Stage 4 Adventum) came in at $9800.00. I took all the raw pieces and went over to a common online site and priced them out. My total was $5200.00.
 
This incluced everything BUT:
Labor
Case
Cooling
Warranty
 
So I knew I was paying a premium to have it built but I was honestly thinking it would be closer to 10-20% of the cost. I never expected to see such a gap. Can I really be expected to pay an additional $4600.00 for a Case, Cooling, and a System Warranty?
 
I'm a little shocked at the moment. I'm not at all dishing on Digital Storm. I think they are the best out of the box manufacturer. I'm just a little surprised at the mark up. Am I missing components or an underlying cost somewhere?
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Hard to say, lets see your configuration build # and your wishlist on said online site.

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Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS Aventum
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Not Available
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 3960X 3.3GHz (Six-Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79 (Intel X79 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Corsair Dominator GT with DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series (CMPSU-1200AX) (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: Internal Digital Media Card Reader (Black) <b></b>
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (180GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Force GT Series CSSD-F180GBGT-BK) (SATA 6Gbps)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer (Play Blu-Ray and Burn DVDs) (Slim Slot Loading Edition) <b></b>
Optical Drive 2: - Not Available
Internet Access: Wireless PCI-E 802.11n Up to 300Mbps (Supports 802.11n/g/b) (Model: ASUS PCE-N15) <b></b>
Video Card: 2x SLI Quad SLI (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 4GB (Includes PhysX) <b></b>
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: Digital Storm Aventum Cryo-TEC System for CPU and Liquid Cooling for Video Cards + Chipset
H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive) <b></b>
Chassis Airflow: - Not Available
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - Not Available
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: Noise Suppression Package Stage 2 (Optimized Airflow & Fan Speeds with Noise Dampening Material) <b></b>
LaserMark: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro/Deluxe/Sabertooth Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability <b></b>
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service) <b></b>
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system <b></b>
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) <b></b>
Recovery Tools: Advanced Recovery Kit (40GB Hard Drive Partition of Image With OS & Drivers) <b></b>
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perhaps there are small details that were not clear where you found those parts? maybe cheap quality?
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Cost Breakdown as Follows (Looked up online separately):
 
Motherboard ASUS Rampage IV Extreme X79  $430.00
Chipset Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 3960X 3.3GHz (Six-Core) $1,030.00
RAM 16GB DDR3 2133MHz Corsair Dominator GT with DHX  $350.00
Powersupply 1200W Corsair Pro Gold Series $300.00
Card Reader Digital Media Card Reader  $19.00
SSD Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F180GBGT-BK $230.00
HD 1TB Western Digital Caviar  $135.00
Blu Ray Slot Loading Blu-Ray Player/DVD Writer  $250.00
Wireless Wireless PCI-E 802.11n  $50.00
Vcard 1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 4GB  $1,100.00
Vcard 2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 4GB  $1,100.00
OS Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit Edition) $130.00
Noise Noise Reduction $80.00
Case Case TBD
Cooling Liquid Cooling TBD
Clocking Overclocking TBD
Labor Labor TBD
$5,204.00
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Same parts as far as I know and from a regular/popular retailer.
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Right out of the gate I don't see OS, Case, Fans, Overclocking of CPU, GPU, Warranty of build, Customer Service, Case Lighting, Recovery Tools,H2O Cooling..You are missing a lot, and I think you are not too well informed.
I'm sure if I had the inclination I could find more.

This is like asking why buy a Super Car from the dealer when I can get the parts cheaper than what they sell the complete car for. Come on !
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Its pretty simple really: Cyro-TEC + Labor + 20% + The DS In-House Built Case + All other components + Warranty = Your Cost

So nope, I don't think you are missing anything.

If you don't want the Cyro-TEC cooling, there are far, far lower premiums to be had with DS's other options. As thats really what drives the cost up for your build.
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Becks very good point, i just ordered a 4400 x79 beast i cant see why any1 would want to spend 10k on a computer maybe a whole system kick ass monitors speakers and games but not just a pc, lol if i had the cash to throw around i would but i would be smart about itHahaha
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Think I found the gap I was looking for. I actually went back and chose a lower tier Adventum machine and then tried to build "up" to the Tier 4. It's there I saw DS wants $2100.00 for Cryo-TEC cooling. So if yuou take that out the mix, then its only about 2000-2400 for case, labor, overclocking, fans, warranty etc which I do think should run about that. My mistake was in not realizing how much Cryo costs.
 
 
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Yep, its a very pricey system. Thankfully you can still rock hard without it! Hahaha
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You cant justify the price for having the ultimate. If you have to ask the price you  cant afford it.Thats for the less than 1% of the population that can afford it and dont have a heart attack on what it cost. Cryo-Tec isnt for everyone. Just someone who wants the ultimate package. 
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Your ddx performance/price declines rapidly after 2.5k with gaming and 3.5k for digital editting. I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a PC and not have it built by DS for safety's sake.
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