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    Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 6:09am
With Tri-Sli, Quad-crossfire, and single cards with dual chips coming out soon which company and which product will make the best impact?
 
 
 
 
 
IMO although Nvidia has the edge on ATI with the 8*** series I'm thinking that the new dual-core GPU's from ATI might outdo the Nvidia's version if they can just fix their damn drivers. Their cards obviously have more firepower in them but they always lack the drivers to put the cards to their full potential.
 
And with the dual-core's you'll essentially be able to go 2xTri-sli/Double Quad down the road so I think that's going to be where people will spend their money on once we start seeing benchmarks. Tri-SLI/Cross-fire right now isn't really worth it because the companies haven't figured out to actually give you double/triple the power like it setups should, so I'm wondering if that will be fixed with the new releases in 2008.
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Like moths to the flame.

When will you ever need this kind of power in any of these games on the market today, or in the near future?  Unless you're doing some extremely power and resource hungry apps, you won't need this kind of system.

Of course, I'm sure that games will continuously increase in their architecture as more extreme hardware is put out on the market, but for crap's sake, how much is enough? 

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"Moths to the flame"  If you build it, they will come. 
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Multi card setups will never be able to give you double or triple the gain because it simply isn't possible and it's part of their marketing scheme.

Even if it was possible, they would never give you double or triple the performance because that would make their high end cards obsolete.

It is fact that ATI's Crossfire technology is superior to Nvidia's SLI.

When it comes to warranty, Nvidia will always have the edge over ATI. ATI manufacturers are absolutely retarded when it comes to their policies.
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I think that's why I've had no interest in the whole SLI scheme, it's far too much money to spend on GTX/Ultra's just to run at redicoulously high resolutions.

I'm excited to see what the dual-core gpu's will do, since cpu's are so much more powerful that way it has to be somewhere near the same for gpu's.
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The future?
 
Hard to say really.
 
As far as the technology goes, I really like the way hybrid Crossfire/SLI is being presented. I like the idea that it may lead to more computer gamers as casual PC users will be able to upgrade and enjoy a reasonable gaming experience for a $50 add in card. I have to believe that eventually, that will spread to the mid and even upper end GPU offerings.
 
I think ultimately, that is the future. Integrated graphics working in tandem with a discrete GPU. I don't really believe that SLI or Crossfire as we know them right now is the way things will be in years to come. Eventually, I would expect a seamless operation where-in your integrated graphics generated the web pages you browse and your desktop, while your more powerful, and power hungry discrete GPU was reserved for gaming.  Hopefully, any excess computational power left in your CPU would be used to help out the GPU in that scenario.
 
As far as the two major players go, it seems like NVidia has spent a large sum of money with their "way it's meant to be played" campaign, which seems like a way to make sure that NVidia cards will *always* perform better than any competitor's product because the games are designed from the ground up to run on Nvidia based GPU's.
 
 I think in order to really compete, ATI will need to obtain more manufacturing capability, and they need a profitable AMD badly.  If AMD can get back to profitability, they will start to have some cash to throw into ATI. I guess that more than anything is the problem IMO. They need the war chest for marketing, to help get applications developed that play to the strengths of their product, and to gain a larger manufacturing capability to take on Nvidia more effectively in terms of price point placement.
 
A start would be advertising, maybe just a little more aggressively. They have a product in the HD3850 which will perform at a similar level to the 8800GTS 640MB which sells for as little as $149 and can be found easily for $179. Why is that card not selling? That seems almost incomprehensible.
 
As far as NVidia goes, they need to get back to offering something worthwhile at the sub $200 level or they won't have long to rest on their laurels IMO. Other than that, they seem to be raking in the cash, so they must be doing something right.Tongue
 


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reason why i don't buy ATI cards is because of warranty =x
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