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    Posted: 05 May 2022 at 8:52pm
Greetings Friends!

My birthday is coming up in June & I thought I ought to upgrade my HP 1920 x 1200 monitor to something better. I have a 3080 & 5900 & I thought about moving up to a low cost 4K Monitor.

I am looking at the HP U28 4K HDR Monitor which is 28" 4K 60Hz for under $500. It is IPS and seemed to have a decent PC mag review. But that is the amount $500 or in that range that I would be interested in spending at this time.

My configuration is in the sig block so give me some advice on what you think would be a good recommendation in that price range. I mostly do Forza Racing, and most importantly I create Fractal Deep Zoom Movies on my YouTube page "Ken Wigger". I use Fractal Extreme but with my monitor I can only create 1920 x 1200 resolution now. I would like to share these beautiful movies at 4K High Def so they can feel the same feeling of zooming down into this mathematical enigma. :-)

My current monitor is 24" HP w2408h which is not a bad monitor but I would like to enjoy the resolution my 3080 & 5900 can produce especially with the Fractals.

Thanks ahead of time for any advice!



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I don't know much about 4K monitors, but whenever I'm researching monitors, I always use this site. I hope you find it helpful too!

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As I have found, the better experience at your monitor size is always judged experimentally to be faster, smoother frame rates over pixel density. The vast majority in these experiments choose 1440p capable of up to 144-165 refresh rates over 60Hz 4K. You might want to look into that before you choose.

1440p at 27" or so and 144 fps is considered to be the sweet spot for cost/benefit by gamers, unless they are competing. In that case, they will go for 1080p(!) capable of 240 fps or better. That res will give you about 62% more pixels overall beyond 1200x1920. You will find that higher framerates in 4K monitors jump the prices up a lot, but the screen res doesn't give you much benefit at that size.

Your 3080 is the perfect overkill for 1440p gaming. It will play everything at max settings and very high framerates. Our own @JamesAstro has remarked there is little to be noticed above 110 fps or so. IMHO, that makes looking beyond the 144-165 fps range a waste. You'll want to select an IPS panel with G-Sync compatibility.

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Whenever I'm looking for a new monitor, I always prioritize size, frame rate, G-Sync, IPS, and being able to turn up the quality settings in-game. I never even consider 4K, mainly because most games don't look that much better in 4K, and it hurts your performance too much. Here are my thoughts on each of those topics:

• Size: I really love huge monitors. They are so much more immersive than smaller monitors. I would rather have a large 1440p monitor than a small 4K monitor. That being said, if you're looking for monitors in the $500 range, then you should probably look for a 27" or maybe something just a tad bigger.

• Frame rate: If you want a good gaming experience, then try to get a monitor that can be driven at 80 - 100 FPS with your video card. That seems to be the sweet spot (for me anyway) where the game feels really smooth. Going faster than that doesn't seem to be necessary unless your are super serious about competing. I can't perceive any improvement when going above 110 FPS.

• G-Sync: This is an excellent feature to look for in a monitor. It'll improve the appearance of most games. It also lets your frame rate drop really low, but still look good.

• IPS: IPS displays always look better than TN panels.

• Turn up the in-game settings: Rather than focusing on high resolution like 4K, I would recommend getting a 1440p monitor, and turning up your in-game quality settings. If you get a 4K monitor, then you might need to lower your quality settings to get decent performance.

All that being said, 4K monitors are really sweet for non-gaming tasks. Your fractals would look amazing, text is sharp, and high-res images look better. I'm just not sure that I would go for 4K if gaming is your priority.
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Posts: 2961 		  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 May 2022 at 11:42am
JamesAstro & Cretae,

Thank you both for your input it gives me something to look into & think about.

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There are a few very good gaming 4K monitors if budget is not a problem. The environment is not ready for them to be a mainstream item. Too expensive for most users and the 2K monitors are super. Some day we'll be saying that the 8K monitors are not needed for gaming and to stay with the good old 4K! lol


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hoserator,

Thanks for your input also!

I will definitely get something in the range of 144fps one way or the other. I just don't know if I will do the 4K at that fps but it would be nice. For those things that would run 4K 144fps with my 3080 it would be super nice and if it didn't it could still do 1440 144fps.

I know that I wouldn't buy a 4K that only did 60 fps. I might just live with what I have for now but a new nicer monitor is in the future. :-)


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I might suggest that you take a look at the Philips Model: 278E1A/27. I have one on my LUMOS and have found it to be excellent! Modes for gaming and graphics work. Resolution very good. Black could be a bit more intense but it is fine the way it is. The only negative, which is easily dealt with, is that the speakers are powered at only 3 watts.

It is 4K HD.  Very happy with the purchase. Have used it since February 6 to 12  hours a day for work and play and love it.Big%20Smile
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GreatSouthernBear,

Thank you for the suggestion on the lower cost monitor. Just curious do you have a problem with the refresh rate? I think it is 60 hz? Folks tell me 144 hz is the sweet spot.

I glanced at it on the web and will do more research on it as I have time. Thank you for your advice!!

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I use my Monitor for Digital Painting and some gaming. I do not play these huge war games with aliens and and the massive special effects. But for my interests this monitor is on par with the 4K 27" monitor I had with my iMac and loved it. So the transition to the Philips was painless and pleasing.Cool
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rings is an affiliate site hence their reviews are biased I don't trust them very much
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