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Post Date: 2011-08-01

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    Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 5:06pm
please look at my configuration and give me anyfeed back you may have.....i really dont know what im doing...but im trying to put together a mean gaiming machine...will be using it for iracing.com and red orchestra 1 and 2 for most part.  your thots, comments and suggestions would be appreciated.  my configuration ticket number is 582028
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 10:41pm
What is the native resolution of the monitor you gonna be gaming at?                           
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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 01 Aug 2011 at 11:18pm
I am in need of monitor upgrade as well and am open to sugestions....need 2ms or less response time
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 2:06am
contrast ratio and repsonse time are bs numbers there to fool the consumer.

Most important thing about a monitor is its panel, right now there are 2 major ones, TN and IPS, IPS has superior picture quality/clarity.


we won't know what you need till we know the res we need to support, so what is the budget for the monitor?
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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 11:50am

can spend up to $700 for monitor

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 1:17pm
ok well a good 30" ips is around $1200 so we go to 24"

this one is a new model, tell me what you think, if you like it we will build a pc that can max it

Dell UltraSharp U2410M
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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 1:32pm
that looks good.....my only concern about the response time is with the racing simulator...ive been told by several players that higher response times allow for some bluring as the cars move on track....ive not experienced this because ive always had 2ms response time so im not sure if its true or not...but other than that monitor looks great
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:24pm
eneedham72 response time is a bs number its not real, there is no real way of measuring response time the closest to it would be white to white but that would be a big number for everybody so in order to fool consumers they go grey to grey or black to black, which don't mean nothing.

on top of that they method they use is different so you can't even compare one response time to another, since different methods yield different numbers.

I'm not sure if we have anybody doing iracing with these monitors but for all the other games users have reported no lagging or ghosting.

So tell me what you think and we will get going.
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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:28pm

ok...i know you are experienced and know what you are doing....so lets do this...im getting the itch to buy...LOL

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:37pm
I'm not expert in iracing, but computer parts I know.

more powerful, cost less:

Here you go Ticket# 582360 --- $3,418 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master 942 HAF X
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Intel P67 Chipset) (New & Improved B3 Revision Without SATA 3G Issue)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: Blu-Ray & DVD Writer/Reader (Burn + Play Blu-Ray & DVDs) (12x BD-R) (Lite-On iHBS112)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 2x SLI Dual (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 2.5GB (PhysX) (EVGA 025-P3-1579-AR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:Red Tubing with High-Performance Fluid (UV Lighting Reactive)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect for H20 Tubes)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 2: Overclock CPU 4.5GHz to 4.8GHz (Requires Pro or Deluxe Series Motherboard)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

this case has great airflow on its own, its the new platform so its more powerful.

one thing I can tell you about IPS panels is that you don't need to center yourself in front of them they have a viewing angle of 178 for both vertical and horizontal so you can sit where ever you like

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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 3:53pm
that looks awesome....i will be placing my order for that configuration in minutes......one quick question tho...sound card upgrade would be waste of money?
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  Quote FrankW Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 4:37pm
Hi eneedham72,

The three year warranty only covers parts for one year. You might want to upgrade to a longer warranty period. There is also another fan you want to buy for the top of that case. DST4ME will probably cover that.

You also want to ask for the Free DS T-Shirt

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 02 Aug 2011 at 5:11pm
CM is out of the fan or something, I have not been able to find it yet.

FW is correct the 3 year limited warranty is only one year part 3 years labor.

sound card upgrade is perfectly fine if sound is important to you, the mobo I chose for you has plenty of room even after sli 570 for pci cards like sound cards.
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  Quote Invader Mig Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 5:48am
Doing a google search on the monitor you're planning to buy and looking up some reviews is always a good idea. There are quite a few reviewers out there than will do tests to measure input lag on monitors vs a CRT in clone mode. 16ms = 1 frame, and for the vast majority of people it would be very difficult to notice. Some monitors are pretty craptastic and can give up to 2-4 frames of input lag which could very well be noticeable to some. Like DST said, the numbers of response time are usually bunk because they are done gray to gray, but you never know what shades of gray are being used or the exact methodology, so a 2ms monitor could very well be slower than a 5ms monitor from another manufacturer.

The fastest TN panels will be slightly faster than the fastest IPS panels, but you'd be hard pressed to notice. If you really want to notice a difference, get yourself a 120hz monitor. The difference between 60hz and 120hz will be more noticeable than any shady response time numbers could ever be.

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Arent they coming out with a new improved cooling system shouldnt he just wait and see what they come up with?
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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 9:44am
I have already placed my order for the config that dst has prepared....the way i see it there will always be something new and improved on the horrizon..but im in need of pc....but i would be open for any suggestions for add ons or improvements..... But i do have one question...should have asked prior to ordering but i trust in dst s advice....what is the difference in the 900 series prossesors and the i7 2600k series?
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  Quote Dragoonseal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Aug 2011 at 10:04am
Originally posted by eneedham72

what is the difference in the 900 series prossesors and the i7 2600k series?

The 2000 series is about two years newer, it is a faster archetype. Some differences in their chipsets (motherboards) as well, but the only big difference is the number of PCIe lanes they have. The 900 series platform has more lanes, so it can run triple or quad SLI/Crossifre, where the 2000s are effectively limited to dual SLI/Crossfire.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Aug 2011 at 1:48am
Originally posted by Nightflyer



Arent they coming out with a new improved cooling system shouldnt he just wait and see what they come up with?


No with this platform, the a70 and noctua already do a fantastic job, making cooling no issue.

also the cooling system I think they said is for the lowend if I'm not mistaken.

@eneedham72, IM is right, 120Hz monitor is probably best for least lag.

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  Quote eneedham72 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 5:17pm
Man i ordered on tuesday and they shipped on friday......super fast......any suggestions on 120 hz monitors?
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 7:07pm
I'm not the expert on 120Hz monitor here, post a thread about it in the hardware section and see what dragoon and Invader Mig have to say about it.
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Heh, don't look at me, I know practically nothing about 120Hz monitors.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 06 Aug 2011 at 7:14pm
LOL ok then Invader Mig to rescue                            
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