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Post Date: 2008-06-28

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    Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 8:24am
Hey guys you all might not know me because I only come here to ask questions but I'm actually going to try to contribute as much as I can so heres the thing...
 
I ordered a PC  on June 25th, 2008 and this is what I gotta say so far
 
 
 
So back to business, Digital Storm is well known for its custom building computers that they actually don't just put the parts and not even boot or double check the computer, they spend a lot of time into it and test every inch of the PC.  But now heres the thing. it's been 3 days and it's still on 2nd stage... Doesn't it take maybe a DAY or HALF a day just to go to a inventory place and just grab the pieces of the computer and deliver to storage center. Now if their not in the same state then I understand but if they are it'll take only 1 day. So 1-2 days but 3 days? I dunno maybe im paranoid but I called the customer service and it's wonderful but I get it, they want to check every inch of the computer and the customer service guy told me it'll take 10-20 days for the computer to be fully tested.... please can someone give me a FULL I mean FULL explanation on how it'll take up to 10-20 days for just testing? I'm not complaining just can someone tell me what they are doing to take 10-20 days of TESTING?
 
sorry if you guys thought I'm QQ'n or complaining, I love Digital Storm and I just wanted to know what it takes so long to do this 10-20 days and also won't it hurt business because people want their computers fast ?
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 8:51am
It depends on stock availability and how complicated your build is.

Usually takes 11 days if you think about it...

Day 1: You place your order and wait for it to be processed.
Day 2: Components are checked for stock availability and compatibility issues.
Day 3: Components are gathered up and begin stress test.
Day 4: Each component is tested separately to see if they are functional.
Day 5: Putting together the computer.
Day 6: Installing the operating system, drivers, etc. Doing the overclock.
Day 7: Stress testing.
Day 8: Stress testing.
Day 9: Quality control check, double checking, etcetc.
Day 10: Packaging.
Day 11: Wait for Fedex.

It takes longer than usual if:
  • Your credit card was rejected.
  • Newer components such as the HD4800 and GTX200 series not in stock.
  • Component failing during stress testing.
And these are the different stages:

Stage 1: Payment has been processed and order is pending to be put into queue for pre-assembly stress-testing

Stage 2: Order is now in queue for pre-assembly stress testing

Stage 3: System is currently in pre-assembly stress testing

Stage 4: System is in final assembly

Stage 5: System is in final stress testing

Stage 6: System has been sent to QA


Edited by skyR - 28 Jun 2008 at 8:55am
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  Quote Nickdapimp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 9:21am
Day 4: Each component is tested separately to see if they are functional.


but see won't it be better to see if they work functional WITH the parts YOU have with your computer not work separately with other parts and it'll be waste of time, just build it and test it, won't that be a better idea?

I've never build my own computer maybe thats the reason why I'm missing the point here. Also 2 days of stress test? Don't you guys work like 8 hours so it takes 16 hours to stress test a computer? I don't know how your stress test works out a single bit so many thats why, can you tell me how the stress test works ?
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  Quote skyR Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 9:54am
The timeline was just an example of how things might go. I don't know exactly how the assembly or testing phase goes =p

Assembling it with your parts to see if it's functional might be faster if things were made perfect in this world. But if the computer did not boot or post successfully, there would be a million possibilities to as where the problem might be. It could be the PSU, mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM, etc. You'll have to keep replacing components making it very inefficient.

For example... I just put together a new PC consisting of a Q9450, asus x48, 2x hd4850, 600w psu, etcetc.

It doesn't turn on... so this means a dead PSU or mobo. I have to replace one of them to find out which one doesn't work. I pick the PSU since it's the easier of the two to replace. I put in a new PSU and it still doesn't work, could it be that the mobo is dead or another bad PSU? So I replace the mobo AND IT STILL DOESN'T WORK. Now you start from step 1 all over again.

Anyways, let's say I got it to boot and I begin installing my operating system. 10 minutes into installation, I get a BSOD or my computer reboots. UHH bad CPU, GPU, RAM, mobo PSU, overheating, etc? Again, you start playing the swapping game...

And yes this does happen to a lot of people, believe it or not.

Testing each component seperately with computers known to work would save you DAYS of troubleshooting. It takes less than 10 minutes to install/remove the majority of computer components and another 10 minutes to see if it was functional.
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  Quote Gary Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 10:26am
Patience my friend !!!!
 
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  Quote Maestro Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 1:07pm
Mine showed Stage 2 for a very long time as well. I don't think I've seen one case of anyone going into Stage 3 yet, they always seem to forget to update it and skip from 2 to 4 or 5, so you might be there.
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  Quote Randy Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 2:02pm
Well stress testing the computer at the minimum takes 3 days. We run prim95(CPU)/memtest86(Memory)/3dmark(Video) . Each program testing for 1 day each. So if some component fails like the memory. We will have to swap the bad memory. Then begin the 24 hour stress test again. Which adds another day on top of the stress testing. We would love for all computers to survive the 72 hour stress testing. But that's just not the case. :(

I also think the tech meant the whole process can take 10-20 business day.


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  Quote traylorc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 2:56pm

If you were to order a system today, the configuarator would tell you that the estimated ship date of your rig would be 7/08/08.  Now, the caveat is that everything would have to smoothly for DS to meet that build time.  But we all realize there are a number of things that could occur to prevent DS from meeting that 10 day build time. 

The problem is that even if you warn the customer that a 10 day build time may be optimistic, their expectations have already been set.  All the customer will remember is the estimated shipping date that was posted when they ordered.  Because of this, I have often wondered if DS should should advertise a more conservative build time for their systems.  Again, it's all about managing your customer's expecations.  If you were to consider ordering a system from a company like Falcon Northwest, they tell the customer up front to expect a 3-4 lead time.  Now if Falcon winds up delivering a system in 2 weeks, they come across like a hero to the customer.  The same thing could hold true for DS, if they advertised a more realistic build time.
 
I understand the competitive advantage of advertising a ten day build time, but since I have joined this community there have been very few posts that I have read where a customer stated they received their system in ten days or less.  Having ordered 2 systems myself (one of which was returned), both of them took 3-4 weeks.
 
Again...it all comes down to managing the customer's expectations.
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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 3:58pm

Nickdapimp, I understand that it does not take a long time to put togeather a system. However, when you have to operate as a business, building high-end systems. Tweaking them, testing them, checking them, etc... It takes time. Mainly as skyR mentioned, if we find issues, or shortages, they may delay an order.

Traylorc, I agree with "it all comes down to managing the customer's expectations" and we are definitely following that now. In the past, we would be ship less orders than we were receiving. Our new facility move, re-working the entire operation to acommodate the new building, etc lead to delays. However, we are now shipping more systems than we are getting in. A majority of orders are shipping within 3-4 business days. Obviously a few will stay back because the order has issues/shortages, but, that's not the majority. If the "majority" of our builds fall behind, we will definitely update the estimated ship date. All status update emails also indicate that your order may be delayed if we encounter issues throughout our testing process, etc.

Hopefully that clarifies everything.

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  Quote Alex Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 5:13pm

3-4 days as in:

Day 1: Built
Day 2-4: Testing
End of Day 4: QA and Shipped

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*Obviously, everything needs to be in stock for your order, you didn't order any complex water cooling system, and we didn't have any issues during testing with your order*


Edited by Alex - 28 Jun 2008 at 5:14pm
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  Quote Nickdapimp Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 28 Jun 2008 at 10:53pm
Hey thanks a lot for all of you for making me understand why it takes so long, other computers don't do these stress tests and ship it out and then if its broken we gotta call and pay to ship back and wait MORE. I totally 100% understand and will wait for my system to come =P Just all I was saying is that won't it hurt your business if you take longer to deliver these computers, yes no other computer does these stress tests and customer service like you do but mostly 95% of my friends say they rather get their computer faster, just a heads up =P


Sorry if I rose a argument or anything just wanted to clarify why it took long and what were the stress tests. Also you guys should make like videos of your computer doing these stress tests cause people are reading it but they can't see what your doing so just make videos in my opinion. THank you!
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