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    Posted: 10 Jan 2009 at 3:44pm

Alright so im building a new rig to replace my laptop i've been gaming/working on. The main uses of the system are gonna be, gaming (fps, rts, wow, etc.) and I am also going to use it for 3D design with programs like 3ds Max and Revit, and probably a little bit of photoshop. I have a relatively good understanding of the new components out there, and the costs involved to make a 3d rendering program work at insane speeds. However, my budget is around $2500 so i know 3ds max wont render a scene that looks like crysis in 18 seconds. I plan on buying a raptor 10k drive and another 3GB of RAM soon after i buy it.

Main concerns i have are:

Is the water cooling worth it?
Do i go for the GTX295 or SLI 2 GTX260's?
What is the benefit of going with EVGA mobo vs the ASUS?
 
Ticket Number:  227289
 
 
Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Dual SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 3GB DDR3 1333MHz Corsair Dominator DHX (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Redish Pink: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
 
 
 
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well your build looks solid, but what resolution are you gonna be gaming at?

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im gonna use my 24inch monitor which is 1920 x 1200 most of the time and when i want to ill move my computer downstairs and play on my 52inch which i think is actually the same.

btw, ive never had a liquid cooling system before, does DS ship it with the coolant already in the lines or is that some thing i have to do, and is it a good idea to move LC systems around?
 
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The only thing that I wondered about the configuration was that I felt that you should have chosen 64 bit Vista for $15 more.  32 Bit only supports 4 GB including MB RAM & GPU RAM.  Your current configuration uses 3GB MB RAM & 1.792GB GPU which already exceeds 4GB even before you consider future upgrading of another 3GB.  For $15 more you can can fully support your current MB RAM and GPU RAM and provide the potential for upgrading the additional 3GB MB RAM you mentioned you may want in the future.  In addition this would avoid the grief of redoing the OS from 32 Bit to 64 Bit which would be a hassle at the very least.
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oh yeah whoops, i forgot to upgrade to 64bit thanks for reminding my. That wouldve deffinately caused some grief
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here you go Ticket# 227303 --- Price: $2732 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Cooler Master HAF 932
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Interior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 920 2.66GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 3X SLI (Intel X58 Chipset) (Supports Triple SLI or CrossFire)
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz OCZ Platinum Edition (High-Performance)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Card Reader: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD±R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 20x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 1.792GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: High-Performance Liquid Chilled FrostBite System For CPU
Liquid Color:UV Redish Pink: Medium Glowing Non-conductive Fluid (Requires H20: Stage 3 & UV Lighting)
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: Internal Chassis Lighting System (UV) (Creates Glowing Effect For H20: Stage 3 UV Fluid)
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Yes, Overclock the processor as much as possible with complete stability
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium (64-Bit Edition) (For Enthusiasts)
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty

you get another $150 off of that price and its all you need, you can upgrade to a veloci raptor later

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Reference your other questions, there is a resident expert DST4ME that will reply on the LC and resolution questions shortly.  It appears you have put together a build that you can be proud of!
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jan 2009 at 4:17pm
sorry forgot to answer your questions:

Is the water cooling worth it?

yes it is

Do i go for the GTX295 or SLI 2 GTX260's?

gtx 295

What is the benefit of going with EVGA mobo vs the ASUS?

not much of a difference, the evga has more room and I think now can handle higher speed ram then the asus.

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i didnt factor the $150 discount into the previous builds mainly because due to my finances I might not be getting this for about a month, and was unsure if the discount would still be around
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Posts: 36758 		  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 10 Jan 2009 at 4:21pm
not sure and I would recommend you reconfig when you are ready to buy, the configurator has changed much since last month

who knows what things are around and how much they cost in a month

as for the specials they come and go, not sure if that is going to be here in a month either

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awesome thanks man, i actually just read another thread where someone was asking the same question about the 260 SLi vs the 295 andi concur, the 295 is the better deal that its is basically 2 gtx260s and a 280 combined
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May want to upgrade to 1000w psu just for upgrade-ability...don't forget to factor in taxes as well
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I am glad you decided to take DST4ME's advice and go with 6GB from the get go.  Out of the box you will be running an overclocked CPU dream machine with the RAM needed to allow it to roar!!!!!
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Originally posted by AlexVH

awesome thanks man, i actually just read another thread where someone was asking the same question about the 260 SLi vs the 295 andi concur, the 295 is the better deal that its is basically 2 gtx260s and a 280 combined



yes this is correct its a better deal and it out performs 2 x 260 and 2 x 280 GTX.



@darkmanstud, I would have given him the 1000w but with his budget the ram is more important then the PSU and if I added both his budget would have been blown way out, but you are right 1000w is better for the long run.

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Originally posted by AlexVH


btw, ive never had a liquid cooling system before, does DS ship it with the coolant already in the lines or is that some thing i have to do, and is it a good idea to move LC systems around?

 


Just realize I didn't answer this question for you, the LC system is air tight so you can flip/move our PC any way/where you like

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