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Post Date: 2022-11-03
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    Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 6:19pm
Budget:
$5000 or so. There's a little wiggle room.

Expectations:
I want a computer that can run multiple(4 or 5) instances of an mmo on high graphics settings. I have 3 27" monitors at 2560x1440 resolution.

Usage:
Gaming, generally MMORPG's

Special Needs:
I want at least a 3080ti preferably a 4090 or whether to wait for the 4080? I7 or i9 and 3 tbs of storage on m.2 for large games

Saved Ticket #:   Configuration Code: 4533238
Total Price with specifications: $5,448.00
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Lumos
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7-13700KF (5.4 GHz Turbo) (24-Thread) (16-Core) 3.4 GHz (Raptor Lake)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero (Wi-Fi) (Z790) (Up to 3x PCI-E) (No SLI) (DDR5)
System Memory: 32GB DDR5 5200MHz Kingston FURY Beast
Power Supply: 1000W Digital Storm Performance Series (Semi-Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
Expansion Bay: Dedicated Hardware TPM Module (Trusted Platform Module)
Optical Drive: - No Thanks
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
HPC Processor: - No Thanks
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Exotic Cable Management - Red - (Cable Combs with Custom Color Sleeved Extension Cables)
Chassis Fans: Cooler Master MasterFan Halo (RGB Fans) (Remote Control Only)
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
Airflow Control: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
LaserMark: Option Not Available
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.9GHz on All CPU Cores
Boost Graphics Card(s): Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability
Boost OS: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-Bit)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
Branded Gear: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-10 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Care with 4 Year Limited Warranty (4 Year Labor & 2 Year Part ]
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Posts: 7966 		  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 03 Nov 2022 at 11:40pm
Welcome to DS.

The configurator gurus will chime in (I am not one of them) and give you excellent advise. I would remove the Graphics and OS boosts. Not necessary at all on the OS  or GPU.
Enjoy.
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so you're running an emulator (like BlueStacks)?  mmorpg's are notoriously CPU bound games.  i imagine you'll need lots of RAM and lots of CPU cores (depending on whether or not the game in question utilizes multi-core efficiently).  i play a lot of The Division 2 and regularly see my "long in the tooth" I7-6700K CPU utilization across all cores hit up to 100% depending on location and what's going on, while my 3080 just sits there at 15% usage.  system memory also pegs (ive got 16GB of DDR4 @3K MHz with the XMP profile).  i've clearly got a bottleneck issue with my old CPU and younger GPU going on, but this illustrates the point with mmorpg's.

Final Fantasy XIV recommended system reqs: 8GB or higher RAM, Core I7 3GHz or higher (prob quad core); GTX 970 or higher. 

you're probably looking at a 16-Core CPU to run 4 instances well.  say, 2GB RAM per core = 32GB or more.  i think your build is on the right track.  might bump the RAM up to 64GB just to be safe.  this might also be a situation where a properly cooled/undervolted 13900K with its 24 cores could come in handy.  your choice.  i'd spring for the 4090 on this high end build, but driving 3x2k monitors with these 3000 or 4000 cards shouldn't be much of a problem. 


Edited by db188 - 04 Nov 2022 at 1:07am
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I7-6700K
Gigabyte G1 Z170X Gaming GT
16GB Corsair Dominator 3000MHz
Corsair Hx1000i 1000W
Samsung M.2 980 Pro 2TB;Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
MSI RTX 3080 Ventus OC 10G LHR
Gigabyte M28U 4K
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Posts: 2 		  Quote Chal Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 5:03am
Originally posted by db188




this might also be a situation where a properly cooled/undervolted 13900K with its 24 cores could come in handy.  your choice.  i'd spring for the 4090 on this high end build, but driving 3x2k monitors with these 3000 or 4000 cards shouldn't be much of a problem. 






Would properly cooled equate to watercooled or would an AIO be sufficient?
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Posts: 7331 		  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 6:00am
I have little knowledge about your special needs, so I'd follow db188's advice. I agree with hoserator on both counts. To overclock the GPU would add little performance to such a beast, but increase heat/wear and tear at all times. If you move up to a 13900K, do not overclock it, either. The turbo feature is sufficient, and the chip runs very hot.

If you need to save a little, you might go with a 980 1TB at Storage 1 for the speed with your OS and maintenance, and put a 970 2TB at Storage 2 for games. They will load plenty fast enough from one of those.    
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Posts: 2115 		  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Nov 2022 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by Chal

Originally posted by db188




this might also be a situation where a properly cooled/undervolted 13900K with its 24 cores could come in handy.  your choice.  i'd spring for the 4090 on this high end build, but driving 3x2k monitors with these 3000 or 4000 cards shouldn't be much of a problem. 






Would properly cooled equate to watercooled or would an AIO be sufficient?
yes, i recommend at min a CLC/AIO 360mm radiator IF your pc case supports that size or larger.  if you spring for a custom open loop config, your options and potential cooling power increase.  for instance, you string multiple radiators in various mounting (all dependent on the case design support for them) locations within the pc to increase the cooling capacity.  search for Der Bauer on YT and his 13900K tweaking to see how to get stable high performance out of it.  you'll lose some max performance on the cpu by under volting it, but it's a very tunable chip. 
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I7-6700K
Gigabyte G1 Z170X Gaming GT
16GB Corsair Dominator 3000MHz
Corsair Hx1000i 1000W
Samsung M.2 980 Pro 2TB;Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
MSI RTX 3080 Ventus OC 10G LHR
Gigabyte M28U 4K
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