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    Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 7:40am
Budget:
? Asking $650 but would like to get to $500

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Beginner gaming pc

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Gaming

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Mid tier gaming with upgrade ability

Specifications:

Looking at a 2 yr old (Im told) Digital Storm set up that is being sold. Here is what I know about it...

gpu - geforce gtx 1050 ti 4gb
mother board - asus/msi amd b350m
processor - ryzen 5 2600 6 core boost up to 3.9 ghz
power supply - 600w
RAM insalled 8gb
2tb seagate storage



Is this a good deal? Looking at another one that is not a Digital Storm also.

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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 2:23pm
Update:
Offer of $450 was accepted.

Question is can this Vanquish 7 series be fully upgraded with a beer mother board, GPU, DSS etc???
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  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 3:27pm
Can it? Absolutely. All PCs from DS can be upgraded. That's the whole point of having a PC, you can swap pieces and parts in and out. The only restriction is how well each piece works with each new piece.

The only thing you won't have is the lifetime technical warranty from Digital Storm as you're not the original purchaser. (I think there's a way to do that, but you would have to speak directly to DS about that.)

But, yea, all PCs not named after a fruit (can't mention competition brands here, but I'm certain you know to whom I refer) can be upgraded. Only depends on your budget.

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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 07 Jun 2021 at 8:30pm
What do you all think from about this build?

SPECS :

CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3400G

RAM - 16 GB

SSD - 500 GB

MOTHERBOARD - ASUS x570 Gaming Plus

Case - MUSETEX Phantom Black ATX Mid-Tower Chassis Gaming PC Case

Power Supply - 500 Watt EVGA Bronze

GPU - Vega 11 Graphics (could use upgrading here)

Asking $450

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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2021 at 1:48am
As a courtesy to DS we refrain from commenting on competitor's systems. Sorry.

You should try the ASUS or EVGA forums. Good luck.

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The Vanquish. Better CPU, better PSU, better mobo will not need upgrading right away in order to play well. You'll actually be able to play on it the day you get it. You would like to to upgrade the RAM to 16GB and GPU to a 1660s or Ti for better performance, but everything else can last you quite awhile.
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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2021 at 6:08am
hoserator - my bad, just wanted a comparison of similar model.

Cretae - Thank you! Ohers have said that this build would be more "future proof" with already having 16gb Ram and x570 mobo in it currently, so I am not so   certain now????
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Yeah, but everything else is way behind the Vanquish, and wasn't built by DS. You can game on the Vanquish right away, and take your time shopping for RAM and a GPU. The other one will not play very well at all with Vega 11. Getting and installing 16 GB of RAM is very easy. I came back because I want to caution you to shop very carefully for a GPU upgrade, which you won't be able to do if you end up with onboard video. That will be lame from day one.

You really need to take your time and explore a lot of options in the GPU world. It's a mess right now with even the GTX cards selling over MSRP some places. You might be best served to stay with the 1050 Ti for awhile so that prices can stabilize a bit. It's far from a lousy card, but in normal times, or if you can find a good deal, you will be happier with a 1650 Super up to a 1660 Ti. You don't really need much more for good gameplay at 1080p resolutions.
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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 08 Jun 2021 at 8:30am
Originally posted by Cretae

Yeah, but everything else is way behind the Vanquish, and wasn't built by DS. You can game on the Vanquish right away, and take your time shopping for RAM and a GPU. The other one will not play very well at all with Vega 11. Getting and installing 16 GB of RAM is very easy. I came back because I want to caution you to shop very carefully for a GPU upgrade, which you won't be able to do if you end up with onboard video. That will be lame from day one.

You really need to take your time and explore a lot of options in the GPU world. It's a mess right now with even the GTX cards selling over MSRP some places. You might be best served to stay with the 1050 Ti for awhile so that prices can stabilize a bit. It's far from a lousy card, but in normal times, or if you can find a good deal, you will be happier with a 1650 Super up to a 1660 Ti. You don't really need much more for good gameplay at 1080p resolutions.


Thank you Cretae!

So what is onboard video? Is that with the Vega 11? It is not as easy an upgrade then?

This helps me immensely. That is precisely what I plan to do, wait until prices come back before upgrading unless I find a deal on a used GPU that someone is upgrading out from.
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Yes, the Vega 11 is integrated into the CPU. It doesn't get anywhere near the performance of a card. You would have to get a card right away to be able to play many modern games at a decent framerate.

I think your strategy is perfect for a better GPU. I would have suggested it, except some people are very reluctant to even look at used. In the meantime, the 1050 Ti will get you to 60 fps in a lot of games, and most of 'em if you dial the settings back a little. So, playable for as long as you want.
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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 11:31pm
Made this purchase yesterday and we are quite impressed with this rig! Its fast, quiet and really looks great. So far every game we have played has had zero issues and is lightning fast, with the exception of Warzone. When we down loaded it the pc memory was stuck a 100% and everything was sluggish and slow there was no way to play. The 1050 Ti and only 8 GB RAM just couldn't keep up. Every other game was not any issue so far.

My question is I found a new GTX 1660 Super OC edition 6GB for sale very reasonable at $153. If I were to purchase this and add 16GB Ram would that be enough to play a game like Warzone? Or are other factors like the mother board and OS in play as well?

Thanks for the advice. We are very happy to be with the DS team!     
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 4:30am
You meet the minimum specs for Warzone as is. Can you dial back the settings in the game?

That is an excellent card at that price. Jump on it! I suspect it is the 8GB of RAM giving you the most problem. Get 2 matching sticks of 8GB, but check the mobo website for what speed the it can handle. Faster RAM might work, but it won't run faster than the mobo is rated, so it's a waste. Ram speed will not hold you back. That combo should do the trick easily.

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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 8:35am
Thanks Cretae! So my question is are we positive this GPU will definitely work with my PC specs and will the 600W PSU be enough?

Also here are the descritions on the GPU and memory cards that lists for $150.00 and $103.00 respectively. Will these be compatible ?

ASUS - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER OC Edition 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card
"Improve your computer visuals with this Asus TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER graphics card. The NVIDIA Turing architecture coupled with a blazing-fast GDDR6 memory smoothly handles demanding games, while the DirectCU II copper heat-pipes provide better cooling during long sessions in battlefields. This Asus TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER graphics card features the GeForce Experience for capturing, live-streaming and sharing content with anyone."

CORSAIR - Vengeance 16 GB (2PK x 8GB) 1.6 GHz DDR3 DIMM Desktop Memory Kit - Multi
"This 2-pack of Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 memory delivers enhanced multitasking performance for your 2nd or 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ dual-channel processor- and motherboard-equipped desktop."

These are available in 32GB for same price BTW.

I searched my motherboard, asus/msi amd b350m, and I couldn't tell if it could handle the Warzone requirements as I don't understand the pc jargon.

Please if someone could let me know if this needs upgrading and which mb is recommended to upgrade, or if this is ok for now.

With the above it will only cost $250 to upgrade.

Thank you!





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That will be an improvement over the 1550Ti 4GB. In UserBenchmark it shows as been much better.

I don't think you have to up the RAM, 16 GB is enough. That said, I would buy the 32GB kit just to have it all matching and avoid timing issues.

That is a nice very upgradeable system. Enjoy.
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Are you sure it's DDR3? I keep reading those motherboards take DDR4, and maybe up to 3000GHz. Which one is it, the Asus or the MSI? I've tried to look up both, but I don't have the exact name. Whatever variant of a B350m I see, both brands take DDR 4 RAM. It's much faster than DDR3, and the slots are not the same, so you must be sure you get the right kind. Perhaps you can tell from what's in there, but every B350m I look at says it takes DDR4. For example, I've looked at Asus Prime B350m-"e" and Asus Prime B350m-"a". Also MSI B350m "Pro", "Gaming Pro" and "Mortar" models. All take DDR4.

Both the card and the right set of RAM will be compatible with your motherboard. The mobo will run the CPU, the RAM and the GPU, and those will run the games. The mobo just supplies the power and chipsets for running those parts. you have plenty of PSU at 600W to poer your upgrades, but you will top out the GPU you can power the higher you go up that chain. The 1660 Super is a great card for that money, at 1080p. One I have happily recommended in the past. The Asus OC is icing on the cake.

If you must, go to Asus or MSI support with all the info you can get off your motherboard to make sure what you have. Of course if you got a manual, that would be ideal. If not, you can probably download one when you know the brand and model.   
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YES! You are correct Cretae, it takes DDR4. So glad I waited to order anything. The info I have on the MB reads, "Asus/MSI (AMD B350 M chipset) (Up to 2x PCI-E Devices)" Asus PRIME B350M-A according to userbenchmark site.

I'm also slightly embarrassed to admit that the GPU upgrade turned out to be a bogus website. I'm not that easily fooled (or so I thought) and I was suspicious from the beginning. It all looked pretty legit until you registered to purchase and they ask for your CC info during the registration not checkout. Plus it all seemed too good to be true and after more investigation,, surely it was. 😪

So looks like I will be sticking with the current 1050ti GPU which hasn't disappointed at all.

Question, does anyone use or trust the website 'userbenchmark' to check on your pc specs? Unrelated to the forum but I ran on my laptop and it explained why its a POS. 😄

I can't thank you all enough for this helpful insight.


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I use Userbenchmark all the time to get info on part vs part. It has been very useful to determine, in my mind, if a particular part actually is capable of performance that justifies it's price against a more economical choice. You need to take the write-ups at the bottom with a little grain of salt. Sometimes they can be a little obsolete against the other selection. Also the prices they quote can't be relied upon these days, but they can give an indication what the market thought about the part in more normal times.

Sorry about that GPU snafu. Good catch! Keep on the lookout for a 1660 SUPER, I think it's a very good card. I comes so close to the performance of a 1660 Ti, I think it's the better pick if you can get it for less money. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting all the mileage you can out of the card you have, while maybe prices can normalize.
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I also use Userbenchmark a lot to do comparisons. Also Power Supply Calculator.

Keep on being skeptical of sites. There are a lot of scammers out there.

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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 5:21am
🙂 Thanks hoserator!

Looking at a NVIDIA EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 ti that is for sale on FB marketplace. Says he is firm on asking price of $500 so I threw out a lower price just cause what the heck. He has come down to $400.

Just making sure to ask, this would be compatible with my Vanquish 7 level 2? And is this a decent deal for the gpu?

Thanks 😊

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It appears to be a market price used in a market that is wildly askew. EVGA is a solid brand.

Your rig will run it fine.
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  Quote Seve Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 4:59am
Found a deal of someone selling this:

"Gently used gaming PC parts! Recently upgraded so looking to unload these. All you need is a hard drive, RAM + a case. Over $1.3k retail. Asking $800"

I need help in determining whether I necessarily need just some of these or not. However, it does include the 1660ti gpu I am looking for.

I am curious if any of these parts (other than the 1660ti gpu) would be an upgrade to what I currently have?

Please see below the list of pc parts...

new (used) vs what I have currently

EVGA 600w power supply vs 600w Digital Storm performance series (seems equal)

amd ryzen 3 3200g with heatsync fan processor vs amd ryzen 5 2600

msi x570 + wi-fi motherboard vs asus/msi (b350m chipset) (up to 2x pci-e devices)

EVGA 1660ti geforce gtx graphics card vs 1050ti (yes)

reddragon RGB mechanical keyboard (not needed)
HP Omen 25" monitor (not needed)
Razer basilisk v2 mouse (not needed)

What would be a good upgrade and/or what could I keep in my current set up.

Thank you again



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Motherboard only, and you don't need the upgrade. It can be had for as little as $170 brand new. That plus $400 for that GPU is a lot less than $800.

Look at 1660 SUPERs. They may be had for less than a Ti, but the performance is almost the same. If I were you, I'd take my time and shop very carefully for a GPU. The market may come to you. See what the RAM upgrade does for you. After all, a few days ago, you didn't have a desktop at all, but now you're gaming. Enjoy what you have and have some patience.   
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