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Post Date: 2016-06-16
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    Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 8:00am
There have been some changes to the Vanquish 5 line. Check it out.
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OK you got me since I was away I'm don't know/remember all the specs of the vanquish, so care to share what the changes are for people like me and new people please?

btw here is a link to vanquish to make it a little easier.

Edited by DST4ME - 16 Jun 2016 at 8:24am

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Here is a summary of the changes:

Level 1:

GTX 960 4GB —> GTX 950 2GB
NO HDD —> 1TB 7200RPM

Level 2:

i5 6500 —> i5 6600K
GTX 970 4GB —> GTX 960 4GB
H110 —> Z170
8GB 2133MHz —> 8GB 2666MHz

Level 3:

i7 6700 —> i5 6600K

Level 4:

i7 6700K —> i7 6700
GTX 980 —> GTX 980 Ti

Edited by Alex - 16 Jun 2016 at 11:04am
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Nice, thank you Alex.

btw is that a typo "GTX 970 4GB —> GTX 960GB"

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Ah yes, I fixed it, supposed to a be a GTX 960 4GB.
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Hm.. why the changes? It looks like the prices haven't changed at all for the most part - other than not including Western Digital as a possible HDD brand.

Also, any reason you're offering the Z170 instead of an H170 with non-overclockable CPUs? I felt really weird getting one with my i7 6700, but meh
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If your referring to the level 4, 6700 with z170, they give you the option to select a k CPU. The z170 with upgraded cooler makes it overclockable.    Being a semi prebuilt chassis, they don't allow for mobo selection thus the option if budget allows.
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Posts: 107 		  Quote lucKykev Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 5:42pm
Well that's what I'm saying - why even offer the 6700 with the upgraded liquid cooling and Z170? Why not just make the "ultimate" with the 6700k to compliment the rest of the build?

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It's all about pricing. Not everywhere wants overclocking or wants to pay for it.   For them , the level 4 gives them that plus the 980 ti.   For those willing to pay more or just want overclocking, they can change the CPU.

The mobo isn't selectable, being a semi prebuilt, so this covers both scenarios.   
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So I'm a computer noob, but did the video card get worse with each new line? Or am I just really dumb?
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Originally posted by Mgreenier

So I'm a computer noob, but did the video card get worse with each new line? Or am I just really dumb?


Yes, for the level 1 & 2.   Level 4 has a stronger video card. I believe level 3 stayed the same.   
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Originally posted by bprat22

Originally posted by Mgreenier

So I'm a computer noob, but did the video card get worse with each new line? Or am I just really dumb?


Yes, for the level 1 & 2.   Level 4 has a stronger video card. I believe level 3 stayed the same.   



This is disappointing.  I have been shopping for a computer for a little while now and have decided to wait a little bit.  Let vid cards get better, the ones on the market come down in price, etc.  This seems to be the opposite direction of what I assumed is a natural flow of things.  Maybe I am just to naive here.
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Not sure what level matches your budget, but you can change the video card if you want a stronger card.   For example, the level 2, and I would want the quad core CPU, for $88, you can select the gtx 970.   I have a gtx 970 that maxes almost everything on my 1080p monitor.

DS tries to preselect the default configs to match their marketing price point and meet gaming needs.   But, they've left open the ability to custom some parts.

Not very long ago the entire Vanquish line was prebuilt with no options at all.   Now you can tune the config to match your needs and budget.

The level 2 with the gtx 970 is a dynamite gaming rig for a great price.

I'm not DS sales , but I do know DS is tough to match.
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You probably won't see the newer gtx 1070/1080 in the Vanquish for awhile due to short supply of the cards and their price above what DS wants to price the Vanquish at, being their so called budget rigs.   
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Originally posted by bprat22

Not sure what level matches your budget, but you can change the video card if you want a stronger card.   For example, the level 2, and I would want the quad core CPU, for $88, you can select the gtx 970.   I have a gtx 970 that maxes almost everything on my 1080p monitor.

DS tries to preselect the default configs to match their marketing price point and meet gaming needs.   But, they've left open the ability to custom some parts.

Not very long ago the entire Vanquish line was prebuilt with no options at all.   Now you can tune the config to match your needs and budget.

The level 2 with the gtx 970 is a dynamite gaming rig for a great price.

I'm not DS sales , but I do know DS is tough to match.


I agree with you, and I think DS is great.  Its nice I can upgrade the vid card, but I just wish I was upgrading from a higher starting point ya dig?
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Posts: 9462 		  Quote Snaike Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 7:35am
Originally posted by bprat22

You probably won't see the newer gtx 1070/1080 in the Vanquish for awhile due to short supply of the cards and their price above what DS wants to price the Vanquish at, being their so called budget rigs.   


According to Alex in this thread:

Originally posted by Alex

VANQUISH might not see the 1070 for a while.


...and probably not see the 1080 at all. But that's just a guess.


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I agree with you, and I think DS is great.  Its nice I can upgrade the vid card, but I just wish I was upgrading from a higher starting point ya dig?
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We simply changed default specs on the VANQUISH line, customers can still modify them to bring them to what they were previously.

The new changes are to bring some of the starting prices down and to promote other hardware.
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if I had to guess, and only a guess, a 1070 will be included by November/ December when the rush for them drops to normal levels, plus 3rd party cards. I would hope they would add it as a upgrade option atleast. the lvl3 is perfect except for the card, and I have no issue with paying more fore a 1070.
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When it makes sense they will add it, feel free to special request anytime you like, it will cost extra of course but you indicated you already know and don't mind that.

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