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Post Date: 2022-10-12

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    Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 1:56pm
I picked up a Lynx system earlier this year and I've been very happy with it. I opted for the cheapest GPU at the time (a GeForce GTX 1650 4GB). Now that prices have settled down a bit I'm considering upgrading, mostly so that I can play around with Stable Diffusion. With any luck, the 30xx series will drop a bit in price over the coming months as the first few 40xx models released. I have two questions regarding upgrading.

First, I got the Vortex liquid cooler. Am I correct in thinking that that's CPU-only, and is not hooked up to the GPU? If so then swapping graphics cards should be straightforward.

Second, I got a 600W PSU, and the original order says "Supports up to an NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti GPU". If I were to pick up a 3070 Ti, would I really have issues with a 600W power supply? Do I need to upgrade that at the same time? I've found contradictory information about just how power-hungry the 3070s are.
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  Quote Onkel_Ken Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 3:48pm
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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 12 Oct 2022 at 8:26pm
the 3070ti averages around 282 watts at 2k resolution, but that includes peaks and valleys.  run a stress program like Furmark for sustained peak and you'll see it hit its advertised 290-ish watts.

Nvidia recommends a 750 watts PSU (based on an I9-10900K proc).  i wouldn't skimp on the PSU.  you've got to factor in that efficiency will drop over the years of service (i factor in an overhead of at least 10% per year personally). 
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  Quote bprat22 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 12:33am
The Vortex coolers are cpu only, not gpu so swapping a graphics card should be relatively easy.

Using a 600 watt psu with a 3070Ti isn’t recommended.     It’s possible it will run, and you could try it, but crashing, blue screens, etc are the signs the psu can’t handle it.   

Like db188 said, as psu’s age the efficiency also ages.   PSUs aren’t a component to scrimp on.

I would recommend planning on both card and PSU swaps for a few more years of problem free gaming.

Good luck.   
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  Quote hoserator Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 2:37am
Agree with above as to your psu.
If you go ahead, get same brand to make sure the outlets will fit the mounted wiring.
Or go ahead and get the psu of your choice and some color wires and do some updating.
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  Quote Cretae Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 5:29am
I agree.

I'd add that if you've been okay with the performance of a 1650 'til now, perhaps the 3060 Ti is actually the card for you. It will burn anything 1080p to the ground and leave no bodies behind for a few years to come, if that's the monitor you're using. It's purty good at 1440p up to about 110-115 FPS in most games as well. Replacing a non-modular PSU is not the easiest thing to do is where I'm coming from.   
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  Quote wdmartin Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 9:10am
My current setup has dual-screen monitors, each at 1980x1200. In terms of gaming I am not playing any of the particularly demanding games -- I've been playing Wildermyth the past couple weeks, which is nobody's idea of a graphically demanding game. When I first got this system I did three complete playthroughs of Horizon Zero Dawn in three months, and was perfectly happy with the quality of the graphics from that GTX.

The main point in considering an upgrade at all was that I'd really like to play around with image generation AI using Stable Diffusion. But the specs for that make it clear you need a recent nVidia GPU with at least six GB of RAM in order to get it to run, and the GTX only has 4 GB.

Still, on further investigation it looks like the 3060 Ti and the 3070 Ti actually both have the same amount of RAM (8 GB) and use the same memory clock, so I think I'll take the advice to get a 3060 Ti. That'll save me the trouble of swapping PSUs and do everything that I want. Also, it's cheaper.

Thanks for the help, everyone!

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  Quote db188 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 13 Oct 2022 at 10:52am
if you want more memory on the card, the 3060 (non TI) has 2 versions, 1 of them being a 12GB card.
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