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    Posted: 25 Feb 2009 at 9:22am



Why doesn't my bus speed and rated FSB show up on my results.  Also why does it say I only have 1 core.  Please help me.  :)
Tell me what to do to fix it. 



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Are you concerned about the CPU or the program? If its the CPU check out the bios to check the real stats.
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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Feb 2009 at 11:20pm
Mason, lol... I dont think my CPU or mobo is bad.  From the begining, programs like this never showed both cores.  They only show 1
Is there something I can check or uncheck under the bios to make it show both cores?


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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Feb 2009 at 2:40am
I learned my lesson Mason.... lol  Not touching nothing I dont know about.  
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I just looked at the bios and under CPU setting it shows that I have 2 cores.  One core is listed as core#0 and then core#1
Is this normal.  The bios has it listed as
core 0
core 1
core 2
core 3
core 4

Why is one of my cores listed as 0?


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Numbering from zero is a programmer thing from way back. Believe me as a former programmer and a very old geek, I know this personally. Smile


edit: I guess I could tell you why without having to kill you...Wacko It is because we always try to represent the greatest possible number of states using the fewest possible bits. Binary values always start at zero. If you want to represent 2 things, you can use a single bit, which allows you to count zero and one. If you want to represent 4 things, you can get away with 2 bits, which represent the numbers 0 through 3. Registers had/have a fixed number of bits and you want to represent the most possible items in one register at a time.

Yes, times have changed a lot since the early days. Registers are bigger and more numerous. But, there are still cases where representing more with less is desirable. For example, the BIOS is still held in a very-limited amount of memory. Also, if you are trying to execute code as quickly as possible, you pay close attention to the size limitations of the pre-fetch queue, internal primary cache, and even secondary cache. In those cases, you still want every bit to count. So even today, programmers nearly always start counting from zero.


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I was looking online and a forum member at Tomshardware said that if you delect the CPU on the device manager and let windows pick up it up on the next start up... you can reset the CPU..... Im NOT going to do that... so I just want someone to tell me more on this. 
People have also said int eh forum that if one care is shown, then you are only using 1 core NOT 2.  Does that make sense to anyone?

I mean my puter works great and fast, so I have no idea


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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:10am
under device manager it shows

processors
under that.... intel core(duo) E8400 3.0
Now my question, is... is it suppost to show both cores here? 


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It should show it twice
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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:18am
see now here is a problem then.... how do i fix this? and why doesnt it show 2
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ok, I just remembered something... I watched a video on youtube on how to overclock a E8400... now it was showing what to disable. 
As far as CPU things in the bios.. i think I disabled many of them.  But I need to check.  But could someone tell me what to disable and what not to.. to OC my CPU

OK, I just looked at the bios..
Under advance bios section
CPU feature= disabled
Thermal Management=disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal=disabled
C1E Function=disabled
Virtialization Technology=disabled

Then it says CPU core 0 and 1= enabled

Then if you go into the advance chipset area
Spread spectrum for PCIE, SATA, and LDT (I think) are all disabled
system bios cacheable=disabled

Now from all that.... is this a good bios setup?  If not let me know and Ill change it .  Maybe one of these will fix the root problem of just seeing 1 core



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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:42am
If you think its the bios you can always set it back to default.

in task manager under performance tab, can I see give me a screenshot of this window?
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  Quote brian Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 04 Mar 2009 at 3:50am
lol... this is a funny but not part.. I had my task window open and I did something and the mouse jumped and now my task manager looks like this.  How do I change it back?






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what is your OS I think you are in tiny footprint mode, open another window and hopefully that one is normal.

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My OS is XP and this window is the only thing thats weird.  Other windows open just fine as far as my computer, etc...
There is a small "how much the CPU is working" Icon down on the bottom right



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OK just so we are clear, another window of task manager is fine? if yes then please post a screenshot of performance tab.

if not, then its running in tiny footprint mode. try double clicking the boarder to see if it restores

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lol... that worked, double clicking it.. ok here it is


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Hmm, thats not right, while in performance tab please click "view">CPU history>here make sure "one graph per CPU" is checked.

as a side note, 56 processes? wow, I got 32, if you want remind me to look at that once the CPU thing is fixed

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Well I tried and when I push view CPU history, it doesn't show 2 graphs, only the one that it shows all the time. so to me... It looks like I do have only 1 core working.  sigh.....

And sure if you can get some of the processes down, that would be cool
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brian in device manager can you open "computer and give me a screenshot of that window?
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Here are 2 screens I want you to look at.
Why do I have a microsoft bios driver??  Do you think that might be the prob?



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brian can you go into your bios>power management and see if acpi function is enabled?
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Now here is a shot of my screen... do you think some programs might be the problem?


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brian this is not an app issue, please look at my last post and go into the bios and follow my directions
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ok, it IS enabled and the suspend type is S1 (pos)... it always was enable... meaning I didn't enable it

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Thanks for you help!
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You are very welcome brian, its my pleasure.

S1 (power on suspend)

OK at this point brian your CPU is running one core, it can be few different reason, first make sure you have the latest bios version, if not flash to the latest version of your bios, if bios flash does not fix the issue then you need to do a repair with your XP CD, this will erase all your drivers, so you should first grab all your current drivers, mobo, GPU, sound, etc, and put them on your desktop so you can just click them to install them after the repair.

if both latest bios and an XP repair does not fix it, then it could be bent CPU pins or something stock in the socket, or it could be that you damages your CPU.

you can go to safe mode and delete the CPU then reboot to desktop as suggested to see if it does get picked up with both cores, if you are going to try this, do so before the repair.

do you know how to do an XP repair from your XP CD?

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let me get the straight....so I can delete the CPU in the device manager and then reboot to see if XP picks both core up right?  Also WILL THIS delete anything if I do this?
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Ive never did a XP repair before... I know you have a choice on the XP cd to repair
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all you are doing it basically telling XP this device no longer exists. you can only do this in safe mode. when you reboot, at desktop, XP will recognize that there is a new hardware and install the drivers for this new hardware.

upon doing so we are hopping that the CPU will be recognized as a dual core.

never done it before myself but it should not delete anything.

for xp repair go here, you don't want to choose repair the first time, so follow this guide to make sure you do it right


BTW even tho an XP repair deletes your drivers and such, it does not delete any of your personal files.

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do I need the XP cd inside for windows to install a new CPU driver or have nothing in the drive?

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damn,.... im nervous.... but ill delete the cpu and see if this works
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you can have the CD inside if you like but XP should already have the drivers for it, if it does not it will ask for the CD.

good luck

let us know how it goes.

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