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  Quote crysis core Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Topic: whats the best or good virus protection out there?
    Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 1:26am
Well I'm looking for a good virus protection that wont slow me down because i have this virus protection called bit-defender game-bit, (i think that's what its called??)
It slows me down like "CRAZY" man!!! It takes such a long time just for it to boot up and when it does I get on my account, then it takes another long time for my pop ups ( you know the thing that pop up when you log in!!) to pop up!!!Wink
And its not very good at protecting my computer as well as it say on the box and it say it WONT "slow you down" but it does and so when i got on my somputer this one day it got all these virus's and spyware so I"m like wtf GAY so please can anyone tell me a good virus protection that won SLOW ME "DOWN"!!!


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 3:14am
ESET Smart Security, it has a 30 day full free trial, try it first then buy a license after 30 days this is both anti virus and firewall.

if you want just anti virus then use nod32 on that site and not the smart security.

Edited by DST4ME - 14 Aug 2009 at 3:14am
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  Quote crysis core Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 2:39pm
thanks man i'll try that then!!!!Cool
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  Quote crysis core Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 2:40pm
thanks
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 2:52pm
My pleasure, good luck
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 14 Aug 2009 at 5:25pm
eset is much better IMO and has much better reviews, just my 2 cents, I wouldn't recommend it, but thats just me.
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 5:03pm
crysis core I totally forgot, set your nod32 in smart security to look like this:

make your settings like this:



this is the manual I pass to users that need to scan, so you can skip step 18 (scan) and instead press "save", and then just get back to destop

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  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 5:33pm
Norton 200999999999999999

awesome, never slows me down, always finds every virus in files. and it even detects and blocks intruders, plus it scans for spyware too, so you dont need to get a seperate program

its just superb, i tried McAffee or howevr u spell it, it slowed me down, and let in viruses, with Norton ive never had a problem yet and it has a gaming mode to minimize its processes


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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 5:52pm
keep in mind this is norton's first year being like this, in all previous years it has been like or worst then mcafee.
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  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 6:27pm
doesnt matter to me, their AV is top of the line now Star
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 6:36pm
Matters to me, one good year vs 6 or more bad years don't even out to me, Norton will have a bit more to go before I start trusting them, otherwise next year it could be bloated again, whos to say.
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  Quote <8) slunK parade Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 6:52pm
well ill let you know ;)
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  Quote sdelu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 7:18pm
i switched from mcafee to the nod32 trial and nod32 is so so so much better than mcafee ever was. I can actually run a scan while doing something else (WHOA!!!) and it doesn't make my computer sound like it's dying! Plus, nod32 found a few trojans that mcafee had never identified, and now most of my comp issues are gone.

imo, well worth at least trying
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  Quote Doc Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 15 Aug 2009 at 7:51pm
I've been impressed with ESET on my new rig. Its great. I have Norton 09 on my old rig and its massively better than previous versions, its excellent, but I would give the NOD to ESET.
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I'm gonna post pics of my advanced settings so people can check every part and see how it should be set.

I just need to put it together
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  Quote satsunada Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 16 Aug 2009 at 3:35pm
Had a friend of mine a few years back, a corporate network stress tester, notice that a Norton auto-update had a virus in it. He still uses them cuz they fixed it quick once told but that makes me a lil queasy about them.
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I had a new HP for 1 week before returning it and buying DS. The HP came with so much heavy crud - like Norton. It was invasive and took up a ton of memory.

A few days ago, I requested Eset Security 4 free , but the free trial download link never got emailed, and when I re-request it, Eset says that I have already received it. So I suppose I will have to purchase it outright. The reviews (here and elsewhere) say how clean it is, and since keeping my new rig clean is high on my priority list, I'm going to jump in, free trial or not.
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I use Kaspersky 2010 having previously used Norton Corporate edition (Big%20smilethe horrorWink) and then a random poorly coded Indian antivirus thing that i was duped into buying from my local computer repair guy.

Though ever since I upgraded to win7 7600 I figured out that if you toned UAC down from it's default obsessive compulsive setting, and left windows firewall/defender on then you're unlikely to ever get trojans/viruses unless you download random email attachments from Nigerians scammers and/or activly seek pr0n.
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  Quote Ramdurand Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 21 Aug 2009 at 8:52am
I must say that i love Eset.  Going from Norton to Eset is a night and day difference.
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  Quote Kliebor2 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2009 at 4:58pm
If you are talking Norton 2008 or older than yes that is true.

Norton 2009 and ESET actually both play in the same playground, similar scan times, boot up times within seconds of each other, Virus Bulletin and AntiVirus comparatives rate both eSet and Norton VB100 certified and Advanced+ respectively.

The pair are effectively well matched contenders either one an excellent resource to protect your system. It really comes down to your preferences as effectiveness and speed are the same.

Many throw out Norton due to history, but having myself been a computer user since 1979 with a Commodore Pet 16 and moving up to the good old PC in 1984, I will say that back in the day Norton was also one of the best, for many years, no one would even consider using anything but Norton to protect their computer... They strayed for a while I will admit, and for a while they were a true dog. Here is hoping they have gone back to their lean mean roots and realized that the purpose of anti-virus is to protect the machine invisibly... not to cripple it so no virus can run at all due to lack of resources available... which seemed to be their plan starting in the early part of 2000.

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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2009 at 7:27pm
I don't recommend norton to anybody due to their history, ESET is the way to go IMHO, norton is gonna have to prove itself to me for a few years, as far as I know next year they can go back to the same bloated crap they use to be, ESET has been great all the time.
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  Quote Kliebor2 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2009 at 7:47pm
We agree to disagree as I said before eSet has its issues as well.  It has failed to meet VB100 several times, and has in past years only met advanced not advanced+ certification from AV Comparatives.
 
In the current year, which is the only year that matters, with the current software, also the only software that matters, they are equal.
 
We can both dredge up past results to pollute the pool, but apples to apples, 2009 vintage software vs 2009 vintage software, they are level field equals in the game.
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2009 at 8:02pm
I don't' care what anybody says, if the av is getting viruses and is light then its doing a great job, I'm not familiar with how everybody does their test and what their criteria is, they can include anti spyware features and such which is pure BS.

I will also disagree that this year is the only thing that counts, no matter what/who you are, your past history means a lot and nortons past history is sh*t, and no where near anything of nod32.

Like I said I'm not gonna recommend norton to anybody till they prove themselves, for me its gonna take lot more then just one year.

because of my software testing, I deal with malware all day long, and nod has been flawless in the past 4 years, so I'm not going anywhere and others can give it whatever certifications they want, I as a person that consistently come across infected sites and files give it a super advanced A ++++ rating.
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  Quote Kliebor2 Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Aug 2009 at 10:22pm
I am not familiar with the DST4Me Anti-virus rating service, but VB100 and Antivirus comparatives are two very well trusted anti-virus rating and comparison groups.
 
VB100 has been around for years, and AV Comparatives has as well. They use standardized testing procedures which result in a set of normalized results that can be compared between multiple software packages.
 
Thus why I trust them.
 
Pretty Simple.
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Aug 2009 at 3:12am
that was a very general answer, what are these standardized procedures and what do they consist of?

BTW I'm very familiar with DST4Me Anti-virus rating and I for one will take that rating over anybody else's unless they can specifically show me where I'm wrong.
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I am talking about reports, like these, with information on testing methods and standards, where A/V software are compared real world against each other and rated on performance in finding or preventing infection.
 
 
VB100 simply is a list of applications that find the top 100 virus entities out there. They are a little less standardized, only testing certain packages, shifting the packages tested randomly each test phase, they test using samples of the top 100 viruses reported by all internet users as having been caught/seen in the past year.
 
Information like the above report or the rather complete web sites each of these groups maintain is what I like to see from a service, not, I like eSET, so use it, which is the refrain I hear from you endlessly, with little more to back it up other than in my opinion it is great.
 
While as I said eSET is good, no argument there, I also see many other valid and usable products that are just as good or better in some cases that it is perfectly reasonable to entertain the usage of depending upon your needs.
 
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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Aug 2009 at 8:18am
LOL these guys gave mcafee an advanced A +++ rating, the gave the same rating to notron, ESET, anybody that give mcafee the same rating as ESET, has no creditability in my book, there is no way you can put mcafee and ESET on the same plane.

Sorry but if their rating does not include the sh*t that makes mcafee a sh*tty av then some things are missing from their rating/tests, thus making their test not a good source for people to decide what av to get, otherwise according to these guy's rating, mcafee is a good av to get, which we all know its bloated as hell and not a good one to get.

You like norton that is fine, like I said, I'm not that easily fooled, they need to prove themselves.

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I just got back home and wanted to pass on a few comments as a newbie with no history of PC ownership.

I decided to go with a DS machine because, in part, no matter the build, it comes CLEAN. No bloat. In keeping with that theme, I have taken my time exploring Windows Vista, reading this (and other) forums, and have talked to various tech supports. I am enjoying the journey. The people on this forum have a lot of knowledge and experience, and a discussion like this is valuable and much appreciated. I am not experienced enough to add to the debate here, I just want to comment on my recent experience installing a security scheme on my new machine.

I called ESET tech support and I was told that Smart Security and Nod32 are identical in that they both have the exact same anti virus, anti spyware, and anti spam modules. Smart Security also has a Personal Firewall module. The tech said that if Windows Firewall is sufficient for my needs, get Nod32, it's cheaper. If you want a "beefier" firewall, get Smart Security. Because I do a lot of stock market trading, I went with the full SS package.

Before installing ESET, I disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall. I restarted the computer. I then installed ESET. After installation, I did another restart.

When the computer restarted, I had ESET perform a full computer scan. It took a couple of minutes to do the initial scan.

The setup was straightforward. Click on "Setup" and the following links show up:
Antivirus and antispyware
Personal Firewall
Antispam

The Antivirus and antispyware provides the following protections which can be individually disabled or configured with a click:
Real-time file system protection
Document protection
Email client protection
Web access protection

The Personal Firewall contains
Network traffic filtering (or you can click to block, disconnect or disable)
Automatic filtering mode (enabled by default) or Interactive Filtering mode

Antispam module
Email; Client Protection (or click to disable or reset spam counter)
User's Address Book (Whitelist, blacklist, or Exclusion List)

The TOOLS button shows you Log, Quarantine, Scheduler and SysInspector functions.

The whole shootin' match runs on startup and takes 5 seconds. It constantly scans and my Firefox, World of Warcraft, and stock tickers are blazing fast.

The ESET tech guy warned me that if I choose to purchase ESET to be sure that I use the ESET uninstaller BEFORE installing either Smart Security or Nod 32.

One last note. When I go to the START menu and bring up the Security Center control panel the "Firewall, Automatic updating, Malware protection, and Other security" settings are green and happy.Ouch

Simply my experience.





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  Quote DST4ME Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 27 Aug 2009 at 2:38am
yes eset smart security is nod32 with a firewall
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Are there recommended settings for ESET? I read somewhere in the forum that DST4ME was going to post his suggested settings. Sure would be helpful.

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I'm working on the advanced settings that will take a good while.

but for regular settings you want to set options like this:



The settings you see after step 5 is how you want to setup all your options in the advanced settings.

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EPIC STORY MAN Clap
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Thumbs%20Up yep it is man thanks agin man
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Man oh man DST, you go above and beyond once again. Thanks a ton for the precise info.Ermm
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