Will it overheat?

Your expectations are: "nothing extraordinary" and then you ask for a completely extraordinary combination of parts suitable for a med lab or CAD station. I don't have any idea what you need all that for. IMHO, it's not a good investment unless you have very well-defined needs for such heavy number-crunching.

I think what you did here was just assume all these "super parts" would give great results no matter what.

Let's try this rig for gaming and some photo/video work. Excellent gaming specs, and very well-suited for other more intensive tasks. These are very strong parts, and yet, nothing wasted on overkill, IMHO:


Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 2991700     
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$4,299.00     $4,299.00
     
System Configuration:
Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices)
System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance)
Power Supply: 850W Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 860 EVO)
Storage Set 3: - No Thanks
RAID Config: - No Thanks
RAID Card: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected
Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow)
Chassis Fans: Corsair ML PRO Series (High Static Pressure) (Magnetic Levitation)
Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes)
CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores
Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install)
Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10)
Office: - No Thanks
Mouse Pad: - No Thanks
Display: MSI 31.5 inch MAG321CQR Curved Series (144Hz Refresh) (1ms Response) (2560x1440)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set

With the $400 discount, it's $3899.

-The fastest gaming CPU with a mild overclock to be faster yet in other tasks.

-A very strong mobo with lots of features.

-Premium RAM in an amount that will never gimp your editing.

-Plenty of PSU, plenty of overhead.

-A 5 times faster NVMe SSD in the M.2 form factor for your primary "C" drive: for OS, apps and maintenance software. With another 1TB SATA SSD for storage.

-A stronger RTX 2080 SUPER which will give you all the GPU you need for excellent gaming at 1440p.

-Mag-lev case fans to assure top level cooling and quiet running.

-Stage 1 overclock on the CPU. NO overclock on the video card, and NO tweaking the OS. They are not needed.

-Internal lighting strip because...free.

-Your choices for speakers and monitor.

These are not bare essentials, these are stronger parts than that. Hope it helps.

Just an opinion from the peanut gallery here... perhaps go with a gaming machine as Cretae has outlined yet saving the balance of the original budget to spend on a new GPU in 2 or three generations? I say this because my 5 year old Vanquish is still going strong with upgrades and not having to replace the entire machine.

Just a thought. Either way, welcome to DS!

Another thing that you'll find, parenthetically, is that the majority of the forum regulars around here are also older gamers... 55+. We are acutely aware of the situation.   

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74 here and just received this message from Digital Storm:
Congratulations, we have made progress your order!

Your order is now in Stage 6 - Quality Assurance

Grey Wolfe, I'm 71. I, too, started a rest-of-life obsession with gaming with Pong, then an Atari, and a Coleco Vision. My first PC, which mostly I gamed on, was a Tandy 1000 in 1985.

I now have a complete understanding of your thoughts and concerns. The build I have shown you is a rig that will play new releases pretty darn well in 5+ years in my opinion. You have to somehow come to grips with the reality that no computer build will last as long as you wish for because the parts will inevitably give out. Since that's inevitable, you can over-invest a little for the future, but going too far is a losing proposition. A much more expensive more-than-you-could-possibly-need part will age and give out at the same rate as the right selection.

You might consider the Lumos case. I think it's alittle easier to work in, and the Velox design has changed. Look here:

https://www.digitalstorm.com/forums/new-velox-case-tidf51167/

Six years ago, the hottest chip you could get for gaming was an i7-4970K. It had 4 cores and 8 threads and turbo'd to 4 GHz. I don't believe any game out now would not run perfectly well on this CPU. The chip I recommend is at least 30% faster, has 8 cores and 16 threads, and turbos to 5 GHz. I would bet on this being a righteous gamer for as long as it lasts.

Solid, full-featured mobo with better thermals than cheaper boards.

32 Gb of Ram is VERY likely to be as much as you will ever need for gaming.

The 850W power supply is all the power you will need and has a 10 year warranty from Corsair.

SSDs have no mechanical parts to fail, and though they can give out, it usually takes a very long time. Stick with SSDs only for longevity. Get the 512GB Samsung 970 PRO NVMe to save a few bucks over the PLUS. It performs just as well, it's just been around longer.

The GPU is the heart if any gaming system. YOU WILL HAVE TO REPLACE your GPU at some point in the future. Two ideas.
1.Save some money on the GPU. If it's at all possible, your best bet would be to wait it out for the next generation of Nvidia cards that were due in the first half of the year. I think they've been pushed back until August, but who knows? You should at least consider going with a budget card now just to get you up and running with your new rig with an eye toward upgrading later. A 1660 Ti or the non-super 2060 would be pretty good at 1440p at a price you could sacrifice for a 3070 (or whatever it'll be called) later on.
2.If you don't want to go that route, and like me, you're not obsessed with the best frame rates, the RTX 2070 SUPER is a great card, THE price/performance choice for 1440p. Getting the 2080 would probably not do so much for longevity as it will be aging the whole time games are trying to overcome its abilities.

Mag-lev fans should last and last and last, but regular case fans are easy and cheap to replace, and also tend to last a long time

My advice would be to ditch the overclock so your CPU runs that much cooler. It won't reduce gaming performance much at all, but it may get you more life from the chip.

I know any money you save now won't be around in several years for upgrades. I know how that goes! But this build, or one with the modifications I've noted, will be your best bet for a powerful rig that will only slowly decline over many years. I know from all that I do, that you will have so many games to go back to from the last few years that you may get a lot more mileage than most of us do.

You see all the support you have here. Please ask any questions or continue to comment in any way. We care.

Originally posted by Jordak24 66 here and just got my Lumos build for gaming and photo editing 2 months ago and love it,so your not alone. I got alot of help from these guys. Have fun!

66.....Then I'm not alone!!!

Originally posted by Cretae Grey Wolfe, I'm 71. I, too, started a rest-of-life obsession with gaming with Pong, then an Atari, and a Coleco Vision. My first PC, which mostly I gamed on, was a Tandy 1000 in 1985. I now have a complete understanding of your thoughts and concerns. The build I have shown you is a rig that will play new releases pretty darn well in 5+ years in my opinion. You have to somehow come to grips with the reality that no computer build will last as long as you wish for because the parts will inevitably give out. Since that's inevitable, you can over-invest a little for the future, but going too far is a losing proposition. A much more expensive more-than-you-could-possibly-need part will age and give out at the same rate as the right selection. You might consider the Lumos case. I think it's alittle easier to work in, and the Velox design has changed. Look here: https://www.digitalstorm.com/forums/new-velox-case-tidf51167/ Six years ago, the hottest chip you could get for gaming was an i7-4970K. It had 4 cores and 8 threads and turbo'd to 4 GHz. I don't believe any game out now would not run perfectly well on this CPU. The chip I recommend is at least 30% faster, has 8 cores and 16 threads, and turbos to 5 GHz. I would bet on this being a righteous gamer for as long as it lasts. Solid, full-featured mobo with better thermals than cheaper boards. 32 Gb of Ram is VERY likely to be as much as you will ever need for gaming. The 850W power supply is all the power you will need and has a 10 year warranty from Corsair. SSDs have no mechanical parts to fail, and though they can give out, it usually takes a very long time. Stick with SSDs only for longevity. Get the 512GB Samsung 970 PRO NVMe to save a few bucks over the PLUS. It performs just as well, it's just been around longer. The GPU is the heart if any gaming system. YOU WILL HAVE TO REPLACE your GPU at some point in the future. Two ideas. 1.Save some money on the GPU. If it's at all possible, your best bet would be to wait it out for the next generation of Nvidia cards that were due in the first half of the year. I think they've been pushed back until August, but who knows? You should at least consider going with a budget card now just to get you up and running with your new rig with an eye toward upgrading later. A 1660 Ti or the non-super 2060 would be pretty good at 1440p at a price you could sacrifice for a 3070 (or whatever it'll be called) later on. 2.If you don't want to go that route, and like me, you're not obsessed with the best frame rates, the RTX 2070 SUPER is a great card, THE price/performance choice for 1440p. Getting the 2080 would probably not do so much for longevity as it will be aging the whole time games are trying to overcome its abilities. Mag-lev fans should last and last and last, but regular case fans are easy and cheap to replace, and also tend to last a long time My advice would be to ditch the overclock so your CPU runs that much cooler. It won't reduce gaming performance much at all, but it may get you more life from the chip. I know any money you save now won't be around in several years for upgrades. I know how that goes! But this build, or one with the modifications I've noted, will be your best bet for a powerful rig that will only slowly decline over many years. I know from all that I do, that you will have so many games to go back to from the last few years that you may get a lot more mileage than most of us do. You see all the support you have here. Please ask any questions or continue to comment in any way. We care.

So, another gaming junkie that got hooked with Pong......lol.

I'm glad you can understand why I'm so concerned about getting the most powerful computer possible. When I wrote the post originally, I didn't include my expectations as I thought it was all young people here and, nothing against young people, but, I didn't feel they would understand about being retired and having a huge reduction in income. I am so glad there are people my age here.

Thank you for your time and your advice, I really appreciate it.


GW

RAM is a finicky thing. I still remember being excited over 48K RAM on my Apple II+, and even more excited when I got a 16K RAM card!!

Generally speaking, 16 GB RAM is more than enough RAM for gaming systems. More RAM would help if you needed to run multiple applications open at the same time. The key there is to keep the system from having to use the hard drive to page file working RAM.

If you will be streaming and playing a game at the same time that could be a good reason for having more than 32 GB RAM.

Here is an example link you can find:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-much-ram-memory,6092.html

I've had RAM starved PCs before. Being that it is almost the 22nd century, I want to keep as far as I can from the likes of that 16K RAM card.

Originally posted by Grey Wolfe So, another gaming junkie that got hooked with Pong......lol. I'm glad you can understand why I'm so concerned about getting the most powerful computer possible. When I wrote the post originally, I didn't include my expectations as I thought it was all young people here and, nothing against young people, but, I didn't feel they would understand about being retired and having a huge reduction in income. I am so glad there are people my age here. Thank you for your time and your advice, I really appreciate it. GW

Can't wait until u/oldlady RPGer chimes in... although she's not been seen around these parts for a couple of months. Being a nurse is probably keeping her busy about now.

Grey Wolfe, as you can see we have a number of folks that can really understand your situation. The best part of DS computers, besides the great forum help IMHO, is the lifetime technical support. Should you decide to upgrade and have tech questions you can ask here or go directly to DS... they are mostly concerned with making customers happy, not just making a sale.

My 2¢...   

Originally posted by Cretae So, I saw your last post and just...smiled. Whatever you decided on in the end, it seems you are happy, and that's very, very cool. I hope everything goes very well for you from here out, and you get a trouble-free system out of the box like I have 3 times in ten years. (One went to my daughter.) Be assured, DS will put every effort into building and testing a smooth operator for you! Please join us in the future for help and commentary, you may be surprised how much you can learn.

Cretae,

You and the other's have been a great help and I truly appreciate the time and effort you guys spent with me. I'm so excited!

I lodded into Steam last night to look over my game library. There sits my pre order Fallout 4, unplayed, as that was the last game I purchased and sadly, was too much for my computer to handle. I also purchased Fallout 76 last night. Yes, I'm a huge fan of the Fallout series and a big Skyrim fanboy too. Another game I played for quite some time was LOTRO. Had several toons on that game.

Oh, oh, oh, I'm so darn excited!!! Thank you again, your guidance and expertise not only saved me money but configured a computer that will work extremely well.



Thanks,
GW

I am more envious than I care to admit. To play fallout 4 for the first time... Now, over 1500 hours into it another playthrough is just nostalgia. Skyrim, too. You've done well, sir, congratulations on the new machine.

You're gonna love it.   

Originally posted by Cretae Your expectations are: "nothing extraordinary" and then you ask for a completely extraordinary combination of parts suitable for a med lab or CAD station. I don't have any idea what you need all that for. IMHO, it's not a good investment unless you have very well-defined needs for such heavy number-crunching. I think what you did here was just assume all these "super parts" would give great results no matter what. Let's try this rig for gaming and some photo/video work. Excellent gaming specs, and very well-suited for other more intensive tasks. These are very strong parts, and yet, nothing wasted on overkill, IMHO: Digital Storm Desktop - Config ID 2991700      1 $4,299.00     $4,299.00        System Configuration: Chassis Model: Digital Storm Velox Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish Processor: Intel Core i9-9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) (16-Thread) (8-Core) 3.6 GHz Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) (Intel Z390 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) System Memory: 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX (Extreme-Performance) Power Supply: 850W Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS) (NVM Express) Storage Set 2: 1x SSD (1TB Samsung 860 EVO) Storage Set 3: - No Thanks RAID Config: - No Thanks RAID Card: - No Thanks Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections) Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB (VR Ready) Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance) HydroLux Tubing Style: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected HydroLux Fluid Color: - Not Applicable, I do not have a custom HydroLux liquid cooling system selected Cable Management: Premium Cable Management (Strategically Routed & Organized for Airflow) Chassis Fans: Corsair ML PRO Series (High Static Pressure) (Magnetic Levitation) Internal Lighting: Remote Controlled Advanced LED Lighting System (Multiple RGB Color Modes) CPU Boost: Stage 1: Overclock CPU - Up to 4.7GHz on All CPU Cores Graphics: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s) OS Boost: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-Bit Edition) Recovery Tools: USB Drive - Windows 10 Installation (Format and Clean Install) Virus Protection: Windows Defender Antivirus (Built-in to Windows 10) Office: - No Thanks Mouse Pad: - No Thanks Display: MSI 31.5 inch MAG321CQR Curved Series (144Hz Refresh) (1ms Response) (2560x1440) Surge Shield: - No Thanks Speakers: Logitech 2 Piece (Black Edition) Amplified Speaker Set With the $400 discount, it's $3899. -The fastest gaming CPU with a mild overclock to be faster yet in other tasks. -A very strong mobo with lots of features. -Premium RAM in an amount that will never gimp your editing. -Plenty of PSU, plenty of overhead. -A 5 times faster NVMe SSD in the M.2 form factor for your primary "C" drive: for OS, apps and maintenance software. With another 1TB SATA SSD for storage. -A stronger RTX 2080 SUPER which will give you all the GPU you need for excellent gaming at 1440p. -Mag-lev case fans to assure top level cooling and quiet running. -Stage 1 overclock on the CPU. NO overclock on the video card, and NO tweaking the OS. They are not needed. -Internal lighting strip because...free. -Your choices for speakers and monitor. These are not bare essentials, these are stronger parts than that. Hope it helps.

Cretae,

I had on my original configuration selected overclocking the video card, it was free, I figured, why not? On your configuration you did not choose the free video card overclocking. I followed your config and did not choose the free video card overclocking. I'm assuming you didn't choose this option for several reasons.

1.) It's a good video card and there is no need to overclock it.

2.) Overclocking aises extra heat and steess which would shorten the life of the video card

These are only guesses by me. But, after thinking about it it's really the only reasons I could come up with as why you choose not to.

Educate this grasshopper.....please.


Thanks,
GW

Oh.....I'm so excited. I feel like a kid right before Christmas......lol.


GW