Work Computer to Run Forecasting Model

1. higher oc = higher vcore = not a good idea for 24/7 use.

I recommend going with a 4.4GHz or 4.4GHz with a vcore of 1.42 or lower, higher vcore at 24/7 load will kill your cpu faster, an oc of say 4.7-4.4 with a vcore lower than 1.42 will leave for 8 years or more.

2. cooling depends on the load temps you want to get and your room temp, if room temp is below 80f, your temps are gonna be fine. but here we go Noctua or stage 4 lc and higher. subzero lc has better parts then frostchill lc.

3. the newer vr are faster then Black caviar but none of them will touch intel 320 ssd in reliability and speed.

haf 922 is a midtower, a fulltower like the haf 942 would be bigger.

since you want small I like the 922.

Here you go Ticket# 538411 --- $2392 (To see this build click here)

Copy of Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New B3 Revision) (Does Not Support SLI)
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair TX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (120GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 4: Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System: CPU Only
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

Ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the top, so you endup with 4 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan

before you remind me of how your use requiers that files be writen over and over again, and ssds have a problem with that, let me tell you that it does not matter as much, you won't get the same speed from the vr, and hypothetically lets say the drive is useless after 4 years, by then there are much faser better ssds for much better price, drop in a new ssd for better performance, but if you go with intel 320, you should be fine.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 May 2011 at 2:36pm

1. vpc will need ram, specially if you gonna run win7 64bit on them, the 16GB was more for them.

OH wait, you said vnc and not vpc, well I'm not too familiar with vnc, so if you know 8GB is good enough then go with 8.

2. you can raid 2 ssds, but it won't have trim, for your use, I would rather have trim.

3. price/performance for storage I would say the BC makes teh most sense.

4. I went with lc cause you had it in your config, ohterwise yes the u12 will do great, just remember LC will have better temps, but in the range of 4.4, on this cpu, it won't matter much.

Your config looks great, don't forget to ask DS specifically for this fan to be added to the side, so you endup with 3 x 200mm fans:

haf 200mm non led fan

Edited by DST4ME - 09 May 2011 at 4:46pm

LOL I hope we are not calling the haf 922 fancy case and the 560 a massive video from certain aspects rackmount does makes sense from the oc it does not.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 May 2011 at 5:25pm

the 320 has a 600GB version.

remember with raid comes higher chance of data loss.

If they are running multiple instances of the app then the cpu can make use of the HT, tho the app has to support it, from what I understand, the call to the vc is done by the cpu not the app.

But you maybe right, the 2500k might be a better choice if all they do is run that app, but I think he said they do vnc also, many at a time.

That does look good, we can lower the gpu if you don't have much use for it either.

If not that looks great, but I made one mistake on my build, change the OS to win 7 pro 64 bit, I meant to get that and accidentally hit the 32 bit, the 32 bit won't see more then 4GB of ram, os you want the 64 bit pro.

Edited by DST4ME - 11 May 2011 at 3:40pm

Originally posted by alvin We received our PC! Question: Would it make sense for us to set aside some RAM as a RAM drive for running our single-threaded model? The SSD and overclocked processor will make it fast, we are just curious if a RAM drive would make it even faster?

Congrats!

Is your application really that I/O intensive? Either way, I would say just try it and see if you any notable improvements.

Also, it was actually me that changed it to 32 bit Windows, because we have a few programs we use that cannot run on 64 bit.

A 64-bit OS runs 32-bit applications just fine. In fact, the vast majority of applications are still 32-bit anyway with no 64-bit versions.

We are in the market for another PC!

I have not been keeping up with new PC hardware - are there any changes/improvements that one would make to our previous build?

Also, about the 32-bit OS again, our model calls numerous programs, and some of those programs do not work with a 64-bit OS. We have tried a64-bit OS' and they give us tremendous amounts of headache, so this new PC would use a 32-bit as well.

DST, thanks again for helping out.

I asked about the Win 7 64 bit issues that we were having, and one of the main issues we were having was just connecting the PC to the network. We have had to jump through several hoops just to get Win 7 32 bit to connect to our network, which is mostly Win XP PC's, and there are still occasional issues.

Programs that were giving us problems were TextPad, Beyond Compare 2, Netflix, and UltraVNC. There were most likely more programs than this, but this is what we remember off the top of our heads.

Hi Alvin,

I got to say that DST4ME is giving you some good advise.

Frank

LOL alvin I'm not sure where you boss get his info, but that is some very bad info, you can't sell a 600GB ssd that holds only 300GB of space, you would be sued and god knows what else, no drive gives you full capacity, but the difference is like 10GB not 300GB.

all raids are not the same, the raid you guys have and your boss is talking about sounds like raid 1, raid 1 uses 2 drives but it does not extent them, it mirrors them:

if I take two 300GB ssd and put them on raid 1, my pc will raid 1 as one drive that has 300GB of space, that is because raid 1 is mirroring, that means whatever I do on the first drive gets duplicated on teh second drive instantly, so raid 1 is for keeping backup of drives.

now if I take two 300GB drives and put them in raid 0, then they get extended, now my pc will see the raid 0 as one big drive of 600GB space, but there will be no mirroring tho.

so I think your old pc has raid 1, ssds have internal raid 0.

to see the capacity of your drive just left click "my computer" and right click the drive you want to find info on and then choose property, there you will be told exactly how much space you have taken and how much space the drive has left.

Here is the potential configuration on PC number 2. Let me know if we should change anything and if you still would not go any higher than 4.4 Ghz overclock. The company still feels more comfortable going with the 32 bit OS for the time being, but we can always upgrade in the future.

Also, since we can only use 4 of our 8 GB of RAM, can we have DS set up the other 4 GB as a RAM drive?


Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 922
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.40GHz (Unlocked CPU for Extreme Overclocking) (Quad Core)
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 (Intel P67 Chipset) (New B3 Revision) (Does Not Support SLI)
System Memory: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 750W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (600GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: 320 Series SSDSA2CW600G3K5)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 2: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock CPU 4.0GHz to 4.4GHz
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (32-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

I also asked to add a 200 mm non-LED fan to the side. I did not provide your link to the fan though, because it no longer exists.

Edited by alvin - 14 Sep 2011 at 10:47am

Great.

So since we can only use 4 of the 8 GB of RAM, is it possible for DS to set up the other 4 GB as a RAM drive?