WoW/Rift should I single card or Xfire/SLI?

I'm currently running 2 gtx 260s in sli (a little old i know but still SLI) I run newer games much better then WoW, WoW just does not like SLI. So honestly if wow is all you plan on playing just grab a newer card we recommend the GTX 570 from Nvidia it will definitely run wow nicely

WOW doesn't support SLi. Even if you're in game and you still see nice FPS.. doens't mean it supports it. WOW is old ... with old graphics..

Edited by ironmb - 09 Jun 2011 at 5:40am

WoW has no support for SLi.. there is no "we support it but dont utilize it".

Sorry DST but I'm gonna disagree with you all day. I'm 100% sure i can entrust a World of Warcraft tech on the phone, over Nvidia, and your reference. 2 GPU's are better than one but doesn't mean it still supports SLi.

That made no sense. "just because 2 gpus are not better then one" proof read your stuff before posting. There are hundreds of threads, responses, showing, stating that WoW doesn't support SLi. Grats you gave me a link that showed nvidia saying it's software that supports all games. WOOOHOAAA!!! thats like saying intel's turbo boost is awesome.

Go read nVidia forums, forcing profiles on a game isn't SLi support. I know what you're trying to say.. you're trying to state a PROFILE for the game is support. When its not..

Read the print, WoW utilizes 3 cores, and 1 gpu core. DOES NOT SUPPORT SLI.


Edited by ironmb - 09 Jun 2011 at 1:35pm

Currently I'm using two 24in monitors, 1 Dell, 1 Asus LED at 1920 X 1080. Games on the LED, other stuff on the Dell XD. Game wise I'm pretty much set on just WoW and Rift.

Thank you Dragoon.

@ironmb, we have explained this to you, what you choose to believe is upto you, I just hope you don't pass that out around here, its hard enough over coming the bad info from outside of the forum.

there are others than dragoon that say sli works just fine for them in wow, justin always said at high res sli helped him with wow, there are others on this/other forums.

sorry about not proof reading, I'm not great at it but I do well most times.

@Uruvsuurt, in wow 570 will do around about 20fps better than the 5870. I didn't see him make a reference to his monitor, at 1600 x 1200 a 560 ti should do very well for wow. IMHO its a good choice to take your time and wait a bit.

@Najja, while wow does not utilize sli the new rift does.

Edited by DST4ME - 09 Jun 2011 at 7:39pm

Originally posted by Dragoonseal Ironmb there are games that support SLI that came out before SLI or Crossfire even existed. A game can be optimized for SLI use and compatibility but if it isn't then it can still be at a GPU hardware/driver level that is transparent to the game. In this case a game does not need to be programmed specifically to utilize SLI any more than a game needs to be programmed specifically to utilize my RAID array, as far as it cares it's just a normal old C: drive. For your consideration: 1) Nvidia lists WoW as SLI supported and has a custom SLI profile specifically for it. 2) Driver 197.13 (3/17/2010) specifically lists enhancing the WoW SLI profile. 3) Driver 267.76 (3/24/2011) specifically lists enhancing the WoW SLI profile, again. 4) With SLI you can set up to 64x CSAA anti-aliasing, you can not with a single GPU. This is another thing the game does not officially support but is simply done at a GPU driver level. 5) I get higher FPS in WoW with SLI than without SLI. Discuss.

More or less, you were wrong. Keep posting though.

im with dst on this one, SLI will have an effect on performance some how or another in EVERY game. Wether if its negative or positive is something totally different. Some games that may or may not have optimization may still work well with SLI im beta testing a pretty popular up and coming MMO that will put both my gtx 570's to about 70-90% use.

LOL I'm not mad, I told you in my last post, this is not about you being wrong or me being right, its about facts.

Unfortunately you don't understand what we are saying, or how sli itself works, and you are not interested to learn how sli works either.

How can sli improve even in one case if its not supported? I posted 3 instead one, that 3 times more then what is needed, cause all it takes is one creditable source that knows what they are doing to show improvment with 2 gpus, and the theory of wow does not support sli goes under.


If its does not support sli, then never can sli work or show improvement.

I showed 3 people that have better fps with sli, justin has not been around lately (and lucky for you, he is not as kind with misinformed people as I am), dragoon is here himself, he has proven himself to be creditable in many areas in the past, he has no reason to lie, how can he and other possibly see gains from something that is not supported? The answer is very simple, its in how sli itself works with games, its available in any game, how a game utilizes it, is a different story.

is anandtech wrong just like the rest of us in this thread, cause this is their benchmark:



one thing is clear, wow is supporting sli on dragoon's/justins/other people I know/anandtech's pcs.

Somebody should contacts these pcs and let them know about the fine print, maybe dragoon's pc is not aware that its not suppose to let wow support sli, bad Lilim

but in all honesty, there is nothing we can show you that will make you change your mind, no matter how many creditable people/sites/etc we show you, you are still gonna go with techs and people you know nothing about, vs people/sites we know, I mean if wow itself could talk and said ya I support sli, you would direct it to its own fine print right?

I mean if there is, let us know, the sooner you know the facts and say the correct things the sooner you look more creditable, you are nice guy, but I don't know why you think we are bsing about somethings, we are not, I can understand why you would be misinformed, the net is full of bs info, which is why we are here, but I don't understand why you would think we would lie to you.

Edited by DST4ME - 10 Jun 2011 at 5:10am

I'm sorry are you now saying that because the bench is from 2009, that makes a difference in wow's sli support?

so what if its from 2009, did wow stop supporting sli in 2011 or something?

the age of the bench has nothing to do with it.

Ok you don't know justin, don't care about the facts I presented, so what is your theory on dragoon and his gain of sli?

also you don't seem to grasp the concept of the net being full of people with mis info, so what if there is bunch of people on anadtech's forum that don't understand how sli works? whats new? all forums are full of mis informed people that think they know what they are talking about when they don't.

question here is "how did anadtech get sli to work on wow, if it does not support sli"?


Also anybody on any forum that thinks wow or any games does not support sli, obviously don't know what they are talking about, and don't know more than me/dragoon/justin, if you find somebody that knows what we know, guess what, they will say what we say, other than that, what do we care if everybody on some forum thinks 2 + 2 = 5?

What you like to force yourself to believe has nothing to do with how sli works, and the fact that wow supports it, which is why that bench clearly shows improvement in sli with wow, and why dragoon and others can see gain from sli in wow.

so you can deny the facts all you like, I think the readers and rest of us can see the facts clearly ourselves, and don't' need people from anadtech forum to tell us what anadtech itself is showing is possible, is not possible.

btw you do know that anadtech forums is just users and has nothing to do with anadtech's website iself, the users don't do any of those benches, why don't you try finding the anatech techs that did that bench, and ask them if wow supports sli, instead of some wet behind a ear forum member that has no idea what sli is to begin with

I will remove myself from the equation, but so far we have anadtech showing sli works on wow, dragoon who you many not know, but many of us know to be a creditable guy, and he says he has gains from sli in wow, so that is 2 sources that clearly show wow supporting sli.

lol how can somebody sit there look right at that benchmark and still say wow does not support sli? if it doe not support sli then how is this possible?




Edited by DST4ME - 10 Jun 2011 at 5:44am

Ok you can insult me if you like, that has no baring on wow and sli.

And the benchmark clearly showing wow using sli from anandtech by anandtech's techs?



And dragoon?

Edited by DST4ME - 10 Jun 2011 at 9:03am

but the proof is in the pudding.

apparently not, cause there it is and yet you act like its not there:





Edited by DST4ME - 10 Jun 2011 at 10:41am

This may be the most insane thread I have seen on this forum.  It now beats out Justin's pancake cooking thread.

Of course no one has any idea who justin is so, I give up.



EDIT:


I pulled this off the wow tech forums:

"Multiple GPUs (SLI and Crossfire) under Windows Vista

There is a Vista hotfix that may speed up multiple GPU performance. The hotfix is no longer available as it is rolled up into Windows Vista Service Pack 1. Please download and install the service pack if you have not done so."


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/933154269

Use it as you will people.




I will add this:

In my experience with the wow techs and players of my guild(s), what Blizzard means by "we do not support this" is that they will not be able to or willing to answer sli support tickets like they do most 132 134 error threads, etc etc.

They just mean you are on your own, or that is how I interpreted the answer I got last year before I ordered my pc.


Don't kill me now....


Edited by Uruvsuurt - 10 Jun 2011 at 4:10pm

Our pleasure and good luck               

Figured I would simply add my new thoughts to the end of this thread since its pretty much the same topic. I've decided that I want to go with a CF/SLI set up, was wondering if anyone had suggestions on what the best cards I can get for about $200 or less a piece. As always thanks for your input XD