xp vs vista

Its personal preference.  DX10 is better graphics man, reguardless.  Not really sure if XP could produce everything the same.

I to was a bit concerned about Vista, but Vista is the future, all software producers are building applications with Vista in mind. Yes, Vista has it problems but hopfully within the next 3 or so months there will be SP1 to correct most of these issues. As far as performance goes its getting better with each new driver update, annoying I know but worth it in the end.

Originally posted by newmember yea sky, id be willing to bet that you could make almost any OS do exactly what you felt like, but for someone who doesnt know exactly what can be removed, fixed, tweaked, etc it can be a lot more overwhelming not to mention this huge online movement of people having the video driver stopped issue with vista and nvidia cards   if xp is just as good for gaming minus dx10... i dunno   and i have a feeling we will see a non-microsoft dx10 in the near future, they are just trying to force upgrades

Seems to me you've already made your mind up.  Stay with XP.  I haven't had any issues with Vista and I've used XP for years up to this point.  If you don't like what you're reading and don't like what you've seen, then don't buy it... simple.

It is subjective.

yes, thats what i was talking about, but its still in alpha phases

Originally posted by newmember is there any feasible reason to get vista over xp, seems like ive seen nothing but complaining about vista, especially from gamers, so why would I bother? im running a several year old cheap dell with xp, and i dont think ive -EVER- had a more than simple problem with it, ive done a clean reformat twice, the system runs well... i dont see any reason to go for vista im about to get a new rig and im thinking that i will just stick with my copy of xp   the only kicker that i can think of is DX10, but ive seen whispers online of people independentally developing dx10 for xp...   dont fix it if it aint broke?

Honestly this subject has been done to death, and has become quite tired and full of FUD.


Do you remember when XP was released, and everyone whined and complained how it was such a buggy piece of trash, and how they'd never switch from 98/ME to XP? I do, and look at XP today: It has become the standard OS. Vista is going to become the standard OS whether you siwtch today or not, but keep in mind you WILL be crossing over at some point.. The reason to switch? DX10+ support (XP is never getting DX10+, sorry), better security, a much more polished gui, superfetch (meh), readyboost, and a few more tidbits.

You weren't an 'early adopter' of vista, so you can't really complain about bugs at all, since the majority of the bugs/driver issues have been smoothed over, and the remainders are being fixed constantly. I'm sure you can find a bunch of scrubs blogging about how evil microsoft and vista is, but those are the same people who bawled their eyes out when it came time to switch to XP, and then realized "sh*t, it really wasn't that bad".

Vista the future, and unless you're running some trash rig with 512mb ram and a P3 1.4 ghz cpu (frankly, you're here so you shouldn't be), your "performance loss" will be ~5 fps, and that will be lowered as more polished drivers arrive, or if you can spend 5 minutes on google learning to tweak the OS (which you should have already been doing with XP, since darlin', xp ain't perfect).

/endrant

Originally posted by syn Originally posted by newmember is there any feasible reason to get vista over xp, seems like ive seen nothing but complaining about vista, especially from gamers, so why would I bother? im running a several year old cheap dell with xp, and i dont think ive -EVER- had a more than simple problem with it, ive done a clean reformat twice, the system runs well... i dont see any reason to go for vista im about to get a new rig and im thinking that i will just stick with my copy of xp   the only kicker that i can think of is DX10, but ive seen whispers online of people independentally developing dx10 for xp...   dont fix it if it aint broke? Honestly this subject has been done to death, and has become quite tired and full of FUD. Do you remember when XP was released, and everyone whined and complained how it was such a buggy piece of trash, and how they'd never switch from 98/ME to XP? I do, and look at XP today: It has become the standard OS. Vista is going to become the standard OS whether you siwtch today or not, but keep in mind you WILL be crossing over at some point.. The reason to switch? DX10+ support (XP is never getting DX10+, sorry), better security, a much more polished gui, superfetch (meh), readyboost, and a few more tidbits. You weren't an 'early adopter' of vista, so you can't really complain about bugs at all, since the majority of the bugs/driver issues have been smoothed over, and the remainders are being fixed constantly. I'm sure you can find a bunch of scrubs blogging about how evil microsoft and vista is, but those are the same people who bawled their eyes out when it came time to switch to XP, and then realized "sh*t, it really wasn't that bad". Vista the future, and unless you're running some trash rig with 512mb ram and a P3 1.4 ghz cpu (frankly, you're here so you shouldn't be), your "performance loss" will be ~5 fps, and that will be lowered as more polished drivers arrive, or if you can spend 5 minutes on google learning to tweak the OS (which you should have already been doing with XP, since darlin', xp ain't perfect). /endrant

Wow!  You got in there right before I did.

which version of vista are you using sky?

i have a 8800gt, vista 32 premium computer worked like a dream for a week, then i got the "common error with windows when you leave your comp idle"

Edited by !ender_ - 01 Jan 2008 at 8:08pm

Vista isn't really "the future", it's a decision. Windows 7 is slated to come out at about the time support for XP is officially scheduled to end. When we say an operating system is "the future" it makes "the future" sound like some final destination. It isn't. It's a state of flux.

Edited by Tyler Lowe - 02 Jan 2008 at 11:23pm

The only problem I have right now is that, sure.. Vista is an "Option" and sure Vista may be at a point 95/98/XP was at before it...

But it still seems far shakier than where those other builds were at this point in time. We're looking at SP1 - but still many hardware manufacturers are still having TONS of support/driver issues with Vista (Anyone else out there running an X-Fi card hearing static in Vista?)...

I think we all hoped SP1 would come a long way in clearing up the issues, but it looks like we may have to wait for Vista R2 (R2, not SP2) to come along and really get this product launched right.

Then again, it's just my $.02.. and I'm sure as soon as I get my DS rig in hand I'll be pestering everyone to help me convert from XP -> Vista on it and getting all the spiffy OC/Testing Tools going.. =)

--Akkim

It's not the same issue - I've jumped through a ton of hoops to try to clear it. It has to do with Vista running games in Windows/Windowed mode and boy is it frustrating =)


Either way.. we're kinda getting off-topic here so I won't sweat it too badly.

--Akkim

Originally posted by MarkNY I have a BT keyboard and I HATE it.  No sound card issues, but I often have to reconnect it after a restart for for some reason either through the control panel or by continually clicking the keyboard for 10-20 seconds (although I am using them through bootcamp on a mac- don't know if that matters)... Also, I noticed that in world of warcraft, if I hit too many keys too quickly, the computer seems to think the keys are stuck down and the action just continues until I mash keys for 20 seconds and it resets. yay for off topic.

Yes, I had these issue also with my BT.  It would disconnect and lock-up at random moments... sucked.