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    Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 5:42pm
I know some things about computers but not a ton.
I have this config that i think looks good , just want some of the experts to look at it.

Im not the richest man in the world ... looking to spend $1500 or less (hopefully less LOL).


Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm 650Si (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3.2GHz (Dual Core) (2 MB Cache) (Black Edition)
Motherboard: Asus M2N SLI (nForce 5 series SLI Chipset)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 (Dual Channel) (Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 250GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: Setup hard drive 1 and 2 in a Raid 0 Stripe (Read and Write Performance Boost)
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 8600GT 512MB (PCI-Express)
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 1 (Certified Digital Storm Heat-sink)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs
/Manuals)
Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: - No Thanks, Please test my memory, I will be responsible for software based support
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: Acer 19 inch (Widescreen) (Black Edition) (High-Value Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Gaming Mouse (High-Speed Gaming Grade)
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support

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  Quote SOLIJA Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 5:46pm
oh and i have a question ...

on the Network card ... if i get the D-Link Wireless G 108Mbps is there a Ethernet connection on that also or is it just wireless?

and you guys need to offer headphone sales instead of just speakers =)
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  Quote Dashuu Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 6:50pm
Well, first off, why AMD? Intel is much more powerful at this point in time. Specifically when it comes to multi-core processors. The sound card is also kind of a waste. Any motherboard you get from us will have the same quality of onboard sound. The only real advantage to getting a sound card these days (at least from us) is getting a powerful APU (audio processor). Which will take all the stress of high quality audio off of the CPU. The Audigy does not feature an APU, so there's no advantage. I would also recommend a more powerful video card, though I can't say what specifically. Let me know what you're designing this for, and I can recommend something. As for the wireless card and an ethernet connection. Yes, they both work together. I hear from Kelly that it's actually called shotgunning. There are no advantage outside of being able to connect from various methods though. Only other problem I can see with this setup is the RAID. You only have the one hard drive, so you can't RAID. I wouldn't exactly recommend it anyway. RAID is really more for enthusiasts, as it just gives you one more thing to troubleshoot. There are some performance advantages, but they aren't easy to notice. 
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  Quote SOLIJA Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 7:06pm
Alrite, thanks for the audio tip =)

mostly for right now im gonna be using this for CS:S, BF2, BF2142, and COD4 once I get this.

Right now im customizing an intel version of this and I it is looking a little better ... little more expensive but im liking the Quad proc lol.

As for the connection methods ... i meant if i get the wireless one does the computer come with an ethernet port also?

once i get done customizing it ill post it.
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  Quote SOLIJA Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 7:12pm
alrite here it is. as for the video card ... i cant afford anything better (i can hardly afford this)


Specifications:
Case: Digital Storm 650Si (Black Anodized Aluminum Finish)
Power Supply: 550W Corsair HX (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition)
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz (1066MHz FSB) (8MB Cache)
Motherboard: nVidia 650i Core 2 Quad (nForce 650i Ultra)
Memory: 2GB DDR2 Corsair at 800MHz XMS2 (Dual Channel) (Performance)
Floppy / Card: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 1: 250GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)
Hard Drive 2: - No Thanks
Raid Option: - No Thanks
Hard Drive 3: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-ROM/CD-ROM (DVD Reader 16x / CD Reader 40x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Network Card: D-Link Wireless-G 108Mbps (Supports 802.11g/b)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB Superclocked Edition
TV Tuner: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Motherboard Multi-Channel High Definition Audio
Physics Card: - No Thanks
Cooling: Air Cooled Stage 1 (Certified Digital Storm Heat-sink)
Case Lighting: Blizzard Internal Lighting (Red Edition) (Cold Cathode Tubes)
Round Cables: - No Thanks
User Manual: Personalized Platinum Digital Storm Binder (Includes Paperwork/Benchmarks/CDs
/Manuals)
Overclock Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Overclock Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Overclock Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Tweak Windows: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: - No Thanks, Please test my memory, I will be responsible for software based support
Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)
Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Pre-Install Game: - No Thanks
LCD Display: Acer 19 inch (Widescreen) (Black Edition) (High-Value Display)
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Gaming Mouse (High-Speed Gaming Grade)
Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty
Support: Lifetime Toll-Free Platinum Care Technical Support



Edited by SOLIJA - 25 Mar 2008 at 7:15pm
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  Quote bfrank2me Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by Dashuu

I wouldn't exactly recommend it anyway. RAID is really more for enthusiasts, as it just gives you one more thing to troubleshoot. There are some performance advantages, but they aren't easy to notice. 



Amen to that brother Dashuu.  If there's one thing I'd change about my system it would be to buy larger independent drives.  RAID seems to account for 80% of my "driver challenges," and I also don't notice a huge bonus to having the 10k rpm Raptors.  YMMV.

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  Quote bucephalusbaghdad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 10:21pm
personally, i dont understand having the muy nice keyboard and mouse when youre on a budget. it seems silly, imho. thats over a hundred bucks alone you can drop on a better mobo. i know looks are great and all, but on a budget you kinda want the best computer components and can worry about uber awesome peripherals later, right?
Intel Q6600 2.94ghz
Evga Nvidia 780i Core 2 Quad
2x 1gb DDR2 Dominator @1066mhz
2x GeForce 9600GT Superclocked
2x WD HDD 250gb 7200rpm's
850w ThermalTake PSU
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  Quote SunfighterLC Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 10:44pm
Also keep in mind the Lycosa is a FLAT keyboard. Think like  laptop, where each key is the same level as the row below it. Takes some time getting used to if youre used to regular desktop keyboards.
 
Also the rubber coated keys on mine are starting to spot up..apparently i got oily fingers.
 
And lastly the Lycosa has no clear markings on the keys. So you have to be pretty adept at typing. Yes they are lighted keys, but should that light ever go out, you wont be able to see the keys all that well. Think of it as like a keyboard whos keys have been pressed a billion and half times and the white letter paint is faded to the point its almost invisible. Thats what its like. (obviously its just a hole in the shape of the letter to let the light pass though the key, but im trying to get an idea across on what it will look like)
 
It also uses up 2 USB ports. But evens that out by having one on the keyboard itself for your mouse, so its a even split there.
 
Still after a while to getting used to it, i really love that keyboard. Its very nice. But as the person above me said, its of no real use for a budget system. A microsoft keyboard and mouse is plenty. Use the saved money from that to put either into the computer hardware more or just put it in your pocket.
 
That 100 bucks you saved could be better put getting the Q6600 overclocked and a stage 2 air cooling.


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  Quote bucephalusbaghdad Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 25 Mar 2008 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by SunfighterLC

That 100 bucks you saved could be better put getting the Q6600 overclocked and a stage 2 air cooling.


Better suggestion than mine.
Intel Q6600 2.94ghz
Evga Nvidia 780i Core 2 Quad
2x 1gb DDR2 Dominator @1066mhz
2x GeForce 9600GT Superclocked
2x WD HDD 250gb 7200rpm's
850w ThermalTake PSU
Silverstone Windowed TJ09
SyncMaster 953BW
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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 12:11am
Let me ask this:

Is there any way you can recycle a monitor from a current system rather than trying to squeeze that into the budget for this build?

You can do some very nice things with $1500 if you don't have a monitor hogging up $200 of that budget.

 I'm going to add my voice to the others when it comes to that keyboard selection. Gaming keyboards provide zero performance advantage aside from (potentially) macro features and should be purchased, IMHO, when there is absolutely nothing left to upgrade except the keyboard, and you have $100+ burning a hole in your pocket.

$1503

If you do have a way to reuse a monitor, or pick one up cheaper locally, another $200 would allow for a nice upgrade to the motherboard or a faster graphics card.

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  Quote SOLIJA Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 11:05am
Right now im gaming on a 7year old dell (dell dimension 2400) with a 6year old video card (ATI Radeon 9250 PCI 128MB)... lol
the mouse and keyboard im using is a microsoft wireless which is about 3-4 years old. (and sucks really bad)

ANYTHING is better than what I have ... i REALLY need a new monitor (using the monitor that came with my computer) and theres nothing hear locally thats cheap lol (only like walmart or bestbuy which arnt that cheap haha)

Id rather buy the mouse and keyboard with the computer than separately .. idk just a personal preferance ... i want everything new haha.

i can raise my budget just have to wait about another month , i wanted to buy the computer when i got my next paycheck cause my mom wants all the money in her hands when i use her credit card ... unless i can convince her to have like half of it and pay her the rest later.

my gaming clan are all telling me to build my computer myself but i like the 3yr warranty and lifetime tech support. but ill think about that ... idk (ill check into all the prices of each part and see how much i can save)

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  Quote Tyler Lowe Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 11:21am
I'm still using the Compaq 7550 17" CRT that came with my Presario 8 years ago. That extra couple hundred dollars made a huge difference in the parts I was able to select in the rest of my build which had to come in at under $1600. I wondered the same thing about building my own... I had a similar situation, with gaming org members telling me to just build. I took careful note of the number of times the same people complained about BSOD's and random CTDT's and decided to have someone that knew more than me do the building.

If you are dead set on the monitor, I would wait until you can put another $170 in your mom's hands for a better motherboard. Drop in a 680i so your overclock will be better and you can SLI a second 9600GT down the road if games start taking more widespread advantage of multi GPU setups. A 550W PSU is definitely capable of SLI with that card.
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  Quote SOLIJA Quote  Post ReplyReply bullet Posted: 26 Mar 2008 at 1:23pm
Prices went up =( ..
man ... was about 100% on about ordering but since the prices went up .. might of just went out of what i wanted to pay
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