You want i7 benches, you got em :DPost Date: 2008-10-21 |
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gamerk2
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Topic: You want i7 benches, you got em :D Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 8:00am |
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://hardware.mydrivers.com/2/118/118851.htm
Gaming benchmarks start on page 24. Its clear to me i7 is just a transition processor, as the Q9750 is faster in some instances...Throw in the cost of a X58 and DDR3, and I can't justify buying an i7 processor for gaming purposes over a Q9650 or above CPU, especially when you can get SLI-280's for the same price as a i7 setup.
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Nomak
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 8:41am |
Nooo!
After having red all the crappy-translated pages i came to a conclusion that games are not yet optimized for Core i7, although same could be said about Core2Extreme chips like qx9770 which was tested - games arent optimized for quads yet.
So w/e gains Core i7 will get from utilizing more cores so will qx9770 and the rest of the quads that come before it.
There goes the balloon chip. Edited by Nomak - 21 Oct 2008 at 8:55am |
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gamerk2
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 9:40am |
My point was to prove dead the "20% increase" some people were claiming. For gaming purposes, spending close to $800+ on X58, i7, and DDR3 makes zero sense.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 12:47pm |
been there seen that, its old and did not have the proper hardware for it.
the q9770 is $1200 on its own, what ever you spend on a q9650 you can spend on the nehalem (if not cheaper) and get better results. |
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gamerk2
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 1:48pm |
Sure, the QX9750 costs an arm and a leg, but the Q9650 goes for around $500, and should take a price hit onces i7 comes out. No reason to spend that type of money until I see clear performance increases.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 2008 at 2:10pm |
No reason to jump to conclusions till the chip is out with all its components.
i7 is gonna cost less then current penryn. The q9650 is not a an extreme chip, so you are comparing apples with oranges. you need to compare the q9650 to a Nehalem none extreme chip, which will cost less then current penryn, the x58 is suppose to cost less then x48. there is no qx9750 chip there is however a qx9770 chip. you are assuming an awful lot here. you are assuming x58 prices. you are assuming i7 prices. you are assuming penryn price drops. lets just let the chip come out and see for a fact what it can do. the rest is just theories, and the truth is that you can't judge a chip by games only, its was not meant for games, but if you want to run games on it, it can do a great job and it can do better then any other processor, it has no FSB, to me that is enough reason to use it, you can use what ever ram speed you like. but again thats me, lets not speculate, there is enough speculations. its almost here, lets just wait for the facts Edited by DST4ME - 21 Oct 2008 at 2:11pm |
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gamerk2
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 12:09pm |
EE Edition = Unlocked Multiplyer. Doesnt affect performance.
1: X58 prices announced for overseas (converted to USD) comes out to around ~$350+ for a X58 mobo, where even a P45 can get the job done for around $90. I don't know anyone who actually brought a X48 anyway,,,
2: Simple market economics: Theres still a tone of Penryn chips out there Intel wants to sell. Either Intel does a price drop, or the people selling them will. No one wants to end up with hundreds of chips no one wants anymore.
3: i7 was designed with Servers in mind. Hence why people who are building GAMING PC's wont see any benifit.
4: DDR3 is still much more than DDR2, and most will want to run in tri-channel mode if at all possible, rising the cost of a i7 setup farther.
i7 is an improvement, just not one it looks wise to invest in.
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 2008 at 12:22pm |
unlocked multiplier, allows you much better OC, I don't see how that does not effect performance.
1. like I said your problem is that you are converting, the prices are not gonna be the same here. 2. correct. 3. wrong
4. again you are speculating prices with all do respect just because you came to a speculative conclusion, its does not make i7 a bad choice, that would be only true if, you had actual prices and the PC was only for games and the user didn't want the 20 to 40 fps edge that the i7 offers. again speculating prices and other things and then coming to a definitive conclusion based on those speculation is not a good idea, nor is it conclusive in any which way. Edited by DST4ME - 22 Oct 2008 at 12:55pm |
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gamerk2
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 8:17am |
The game Intel showed was Lost Planet, a game which DYNAMICALLY uses more cores as they are avaliable, and the only game i can think of right now that does this. With 8 cores (4 virtual, 4 actual), its a no-contest, of course. If it was 20 extra FPS in Crysis, then we would have something to talk about, but its one of the few games that was specifically designed with multi-core in mind, and a really bad example considering how few games do this.
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venom
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 11:14am |
All of the components are available already... Just not to you or the general public yet. There still is a front side bus, and you are actually limited to 1333mhz ram since going over 1.65v for the dram voltage can/will fry the chip, so until higher clocked ram comes outwith lower voltages, you are stuck with either ddr3 1066 or 1333. |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 1:31pm |
my point exactly, lets wait and see how it does in different games then arrive at conclusions |
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 1:32pm |
good day venom |
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Axel Daemon
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 4:11pm |
But but but..... "but it will shorten the life span of the processors." POSSIBLY. I'll stick to waiting for more constant reviews saying "This processor and that processor died several days later, going at this said voltage."
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DST4ME
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Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 2008 at 4:20pm |
which is exactly why I keep saying lets wait and see what everybody can do.
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